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If Neville Goddard and 'Creative Visualization' was correct...

Ananda

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Sexual fantasies would manifest in one's life. A lot of people, including myself, are very good at visualizing, and they are obviously feeling the emotions, etc, while fantasizing, yet in the vast majority of people, nothing close manifests.

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KjEno186

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What Goddard teaches is no mere fantasizing. Of course, he wrote books and gave lectures on all aspects of the teaching, so it would be difficult to summarize it all in a single thread.

I'll mention just one relevant thing: Most fantasies involve the person seeing his/herself figuring out how to get what they want, essentially exploring the steps required to reach the desired goal. Goddard says one should instead focus on the feeling of already possessing the desired state, imagining not the process but the end point with a feeling of accomplishment.

The difficulty is, according to Goddard, our senses tell us that we lack, and we believe our senses, and we continue to lack. Another meaning of the word 'want' is 'to be without'. We look upon the object of our desire and we want it. But this means we do not have it. No matter what we desire, if we also feel that we do not already have it, our fantasies merely confirm that we lack.

The way around this for most people is to work for money, but there are things which one cannot buy.
 

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Nicely said, KjEno186!

For many years I also thought this stuff was New Age bunk. Boy, was I wrong.

To why our fantasies don't move the 'manifestation' needle.... they probably do, but are too inconsistent, and the occasional fantasy is not changing reality.

Neville's Law of Assumption New Thought (NT) folks do it every day until their desire manifests, not just once for entertainment and escapism. Neville's teaches there is an time delay of varying length as the universe mirrors your inner realty. Maybe just a day, maybe months. He uses pregnancy and birth metaphors here.

People are not consistent, usually give up, and come into their manifestation practice from a feeling of lack, of not having what they want, which only reifies the distance between you and your desire.

Don't quote me, but to add to KjEno186's intro, Neville recommended two five to two minutes sessions just upon waking up, and just before going to sleep. A core technique to the practice is entering dreamy hypnagogic State Akin to Sleep (SATS), but it's not totally necessary if you have a strong imagination. Neville would do NT (New Thought) while dozing off in a easy chair with a glass of wine. Then you use your imagination to experience your desire as "Living from the End", and evoking the feeling it is already done.

The techniques works great for creative types. Neville was a dancer and he speaks our language.

But the technique is so simple even a boring normie can do it:

(Pardon Satly NT Grandpa's there, but he runs though the Ladder exercise pretty thoroughly.)

No spirits, wands, energy, or religions required , unless you really feel they are necessary. I'd say having extra minds helps, and I think they can be disembodied minds, but I have not combined NT with daimons yet.
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Neville recommended two five to two minutes sessions just upon waking up, and just before going to sleep.
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Neville recommend two 5 to 10 minute sessions per day, the first just upon waking up, and the second just before going to sleep.
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Oh! Quick additional note.

I have combined NT with my more mystical theosis practice, and the allies who help me there, but they are not work spirits, which for me are daimons. I have heard of people combining daimons and NT, but have not liked some the hot takes I've read there, which only seem to limit the daimons, but I have no firm opinion here.

If anyone is doing combining Goetia with NT to a significant degree please let us all know how it's working for you!
 
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