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"Initiating" People Around You

nunaphael

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I don't mean to make this into a moral debate about whether it's right or wrong to force someone else into an initiation that they aren't ready for. In fact, I mean to sidestep that entire discussion right away by framing it this way instead: consider that, once one has themselves become "initiated" and perhaps even spent a little time as a "journeyman" own their own path, there is a quality about you that others will unconsciously react to in your presence that can automatically trigger "synchronicity" for them and thus "initiate" them into something whether you actually meant for this to occur or not.

But supposing that you did actually have the conscious intention of directly "stimulating" the sorts of experiences that can generate synchronicity for other people, how would you do it? Assuming you have common sense, and we're not talking about transgressing anyone's obvious personal boundaries, what I'm asking is, how would you create a "space" for synchronicity to occur on its own if it wants to, around yourself, and intensify this kind of "aura" if you will, to the point that it becomes really quire powerful and sets off all kinds of "initiatory" experiences for people when you turn it up?

After recently watching a series called "Hellier", which is literally about this (I highly recommend watching it, it's free on youtube), I was introduced to three ideas that kind of break this down into almost a science. In one episode they make a reference to a book that talks about applying anthropological ideas to the paranormal in order to derive these three qualities that come up over and over and over again in relation to paranormal experiences. The three qualities that are most often connected with or associated with the experience of paranormal events or synchronicity, are places, things, ideas, people, events, and so forth that we consider either "liminal", "marginalized", or "unstructured".

Liminal just means "in-between", so things that are unfinished or connecting to points or crossroads or places with lots of movement, or caves, rivers, mountains, high up places, secret passages, etc. But also events that never seem to finish, like a journey that hits a dead end and feels unfinished, left open, like something more was meant to happen, something urging you to keep going but you're not sure where. Or people that have that kind of quality to them, giving you half-truths, hints, signs, something you can't ignore, but not enough to understand what it means.

Marginalized means things that are pushed out, blocked out, ignored, mistreated, abused, scorned, hated, banned, forbidden, taboo, criminal, heretical, blasphemous, and so forth. All the things that people consider "trouble" and want "nothing to do with". It doesn't matter why. There's always reasons. There's always currents that people are aligned with and there's the strong currents and the weak currents. This applies to everything just as much as the idea of liminality, there's marginalized people, places, events, things, ideas, and you name it, the list could potentially include everything you could ever think of at one point in time to a certain person or group of people.

And then there's the "unstructured". This is just pure chaos, the unknown, the unpredicted, the unexpected, the uncontrollable, the destructive, the disruptive, the revolutionary, when things get "out of control", when "there's nothing we can do at this point", and we are basically feeling completely helpless or swept up, swept away even. Things are just completely overwhelming, it's just psychological overload, too much information, too much of whatever it is, your just cannot take it. You cannot control yourself in the presence of this uncontrollable energy, whatever it is. The disruption it causes completely disrupts you. Again, this could be a thing, a place, a person, an event, an idea, whatever.

It doesn't just make a lot of sense to me, it absolutely aligns with my own personal experiences, what got me into this, and how I continue to remain engaged with what I am doing day to day when I do my rites and ceremonies. It's almost like these three concepts are literally salt, spice, and sugar. They are the three "magical ingredients" that really activate the recipe. But how do you conceptualize all of this? What's your take on the whole process of "initiation"? Do you think it requires ceremonies and formalities? Does it have to be a deliberate "ritual"? Or could it more organic for some people, something that you just feel "called" to and make a decision to either engage with or ignore, and then somehow it just "happens" to those people?
 

Frater M.M.

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But supposing that you did actually have the conscious intention of directly "stimulating" the sorts of experiences that can generate synchronicity for other people, how would you do it?

This reminds of the DKMU project called Ellis: tagging her sigil in public places for ppl to see to generate an anomaly/synchronicity zone around it. Around 15 years ago this project was full on but no idea what happened to it (or even DKMU for that matter).

Assuming you have common sense, and we're not talking about transgressing anyone's obvious personal boundaries, what I'm asking is, how would you create a "space" for synchronicity to occur on its own if it wants to, around yourself, and intensify this kind of "aura" if you will, to the point that it becomes really quire powerful and sets off all kinds of "initiatory" experiences for people when you turn it up?

I remember ppl tattooing themselves with her sigil, not quite sure why -- a current search tells me it was pretty close to your purpose: to become a continuing/living node in the Ellisian network. They called these ppl "Fleshcrafted".

I guess in theory you could wear a black t-shirt with a giant version of her sigil in white on it and wander about for ppl to look at. I'm not sure if anyone tried this or what would happen. :unsure:
 

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I guess in theory you could wear a black t-shirt with a giant version of her sigil in white on it and wander about for ppl to look at. I'm not sure if anyone tried this or what would happen. :unsure:
This doesn't seem like a bad idea to me actually, especially if you could turn it into a brand identity and make it look fashionable. Almost like you are inserting a virus into the "matrix" of society without people realizing they are participating in something more than just a fad or something that "looks cool". With different lines released under your own brand you could turn your entire business into an elaborate decentralized occult ritual and never tell a soul. You could keep the entire thing to yourself, not even tell your wife. Even if people were suspicious, it's not like they would ever be able to prove it.
 

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I guess in theory you could wear a black t-shirt with a giant version of her sigil in white on it and wander about for ppl to look at. I'm not sure if anyone tried this or what would happen. :unsure:
After long discussions with a mate of mine, he created a sigil for his band, which they had on T-shirts, album covers etc. I'm sure it's helped their success :)
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The only real initiation is by the Self. It has zero to do with rituals, reciting flowery poems, speaking latin or hebrew, standing with stupid outfits on , or being in the presence of someone bringing in an egregore (aka assuming the godform). It's not even being the recipient of shaktipat.

There is a vast difference between being connected to egregoric powers and real initiation. A real initiation is not being inducted into a group or a collectivist-energy stream. It is in fact the road to the furthest form of individuation (and I'm not speaking of jungian individuation)
 

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I once had an encounter I would like to relate from a time I was a tour guide in Austria. part of my duties was to meet passengers arriving off the planes at Geneva airport often very early in the morning and I was often amongst the very few people around at that time. I remember seeing striding across the empty concourse somebody possibly a Buddhist monk, clutching a ticket and beaming the biggest smile a human face could carry comfortably. he had no luggage. his feet were filthy his hair long and matted so unlike a shaved monk but the startling thing was his robe was absolutely covered in paper, cardboard, ribbons and seemingly prayers, petitions and all the worries and fears of it seemed everybody he had ever met and he carried it all so lightly it was not even there at all. a magnificently holy man I supposed and he looked like he didn't give a shit but the sheer presence and energy was like a wave of pure love. he ignored me but even his ignorance was a blessing. he had sailed through the building the same way he had sailed through life I guess transcended above the mundane and fixed on a purpose only he could see. a better advert for Buddhism I have not seen since.

it would be tempting to say I dropped everything and became a Buddhist on the strength of that chance encounter, but practicality and a coach load of Glaswegian holiday makers cut short my dream like exposure to a genuine holy creature besides the Fates had other adventures in store for me.
 
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