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[Help] Is joining the catholic church worth it for protection in the working with infernal spirits?

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CALLMESNAKE22

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I consider myself a chaos magician so I like shifting my paradigm sometimes, like I may think of somthing or put myself in the mindset of a Buddhist one day, a Hindu the next, sometimes I have to put myself in a Christian mindset to think about somthing but you dont have to join the church to do that. In fact it would probably cause you to think that all the other spirits are demons and they are out to get you now. I did a ritual to negate my baptism because I dont want anything to do with the catholic church.
 

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You are in fact giving up your "I" to those depths, choosing to identigy yourself with them. They are only "you" because you choose to connect with their current.
lol what kind of fearful cringing is this to not even be able to face one's multidimensional Self? If you weren't infected with religious energies, you might have a chance to experience it, as there is no 'identification', but ever greater inner unity, wakefulness, and ascension.
 

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lol what kind of fearful cringing is this to not even be able to face one's multidimensional Self? If you weren't infected with religious energies, you might have a chance to experience it, as there is no 'identification', but ever greater inner unity, wakefulness, and ascension.
The process of "identification" relies on what in the case of mainstream religions and furthermore, esoteric speaking, the RHP (Right Hand Path) current is about; Union with God / another Higher Divinity, besides helping others and so on and so forth.

One is not "infected" by religions, and, as a matter of fact, the "infection" that you are talking about is something that has paved a remarkable ground for those who needed the said religions, their texts or even people directly or indirectly in their work.

Speaking from personal experience here: I was a teenager when I had the same thoughts as you, about how religions, all sorts of churches / mosques and religious figures were bad and preventing ascension. This, fueled by immense stupidity in having believed in various pandemic related conspiracies (spiritual and non-spiritua subject conspiracies), I further spiraled down into Satanism. At first, I thought it was a "wonderful experience, something great that would help me achieve ascension and spiritual evolution.

I didn't find that. I had my fair amount of time spent working with Goetia, personal methods for conjuring the Demons based on sigil meditation and even dreamworking and vibrating Demonic names and enns. It only proved that it was a huge drainage of my time and even worse, my energy.

I won't go off-topic now or even offend those who practice Satanism, both Theistic and Atheistic or how many other forms of Satanism that are there. I simply say: I don't adhere to the practice anymore, but if you respect the law and don't impose your practice amongst others, then who am I to judge.

I don't know if you, @Beyond Everything are a practicioner of Satanism or any other type of such LHP ideology, but I suggest you start taking research away from the ego-trip. To put some "spark on the fire" (pun intended), even the Bible can seem LHP at times lol:

Examine yourselves, to see whether you are in the faith. Test yourselves. Or do you not realize this about yourselves, that Jesus Christ is in you?—unless indeed you fail to meet the test! - Corinthians 2:15
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This verse invites to examine ourselves, obtained knowledge of ourselves, and realize that Jesus Christ / the Inner Light (if you want to interpret Him in that way) is within you.

One last thing I want to add in conclusion, is that we, as Human Beings, have free will, and we can choose if we momentarily or permanently surrender such free will. And even then, in the case of full surrender, some free will remains as it is a concept that is as old as the Aeons. The thing about "religions" is that they are not illusions, but manifestations of the Word of the Universe in an exoteric (commonly told) form, the practicioner further being awaited upon receiving the call to choose their path, texts from said religions, texts, interpretations, and so on and so forth.
 

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I was a teenager when I had the same thoughts as you, about how religions, all sorts of churches / mosques and religious figures were bad and preventing ascension.
No, I can assure you that you didn't have 'the same thoughts' as me.

I didn't find that. I had my fair amount of time spent working with Goetia, personal methods for conjuring the Demons based on sigil meditation and even dreamworking and vibrating Demonic names and enns. It only proved that it was a huge drainage of my time and even worse, my energy.
This has precisely zero to do with ascension. So -as I stated- your thoughts had absolutely nothing to do with mine.

The rest of of what you typed is mostly religious boilerplate.
 

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lol what kind of fearful cringing is this to not even be able to face one's multidimensional Self? If you weren't infected with religious energies, you might have a chance to experience it, as there is no 'identification', but ever greater inner unity, wakefulness, and ascension.
Yeah, as I said, your "ascension" literally stinks of predatory entities fermenting in your shadow, and not even of any of the fun kinds. Almost everyone interacting with you here is - using their own nomenclature - telling you that because it's overwhelmingly evident to anyone with a shred of experience and spiritual sense.

You have an ideal you pursue - immortality, I reckon. This ideal is a obviously a thing that is not you, and the pursuit is an act of worship towards that thing. All that makes it different from a proper religion is that instead of making it a proper deity you're allowing it to collect random garbage that apparently coagulated into this unpleasant, hateful personality that manipulates you into cherishing it like your own.
 

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I'd encourage you to try and get some experience with OBEs. Then you wouldn't type something so very silly.
You're more fun to talk to when you are less condescending. It's also when you have anything of value to say.

But I do love that you presume that your "experiences" yield some universal truth to the point of thinking you can conclude that any disagreement with you is a result of ignorance.
 
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