Is religion a white magic?

[Viktor]

I have pondered many times this question, is religion a white magic?
My personal opinion is that religion is white magic.

What I mean by this is that religions are used by various religion leaders to do presumably good things or to encourage doing good in order to attract,
while in fact religions have a hidden purpose known only to leaders (esoteric teaching), the public is however present with exoteric teachings.

It's difficult to say and perhaps subjective what the esoteric teaching could be, but ultimately since purpose of a religion is to encourage communion and doing good it logically follows that religion is white magic in a sense that magic is about supernatural powers to affect the world around us, which the religion indeed does since ever.

There is an issue with existence of God however, and this is the only reason why every religion may be esoteric in nature with exoteric teachings, ex. to prevent doubt about existence of a God.
Thus it logically follows that esoteric knowledge is about God's existence, therefore it's possible for the esoteric teaching to be that there is no God in fact but is present as existent in exoteric teachings.

I thus think religion is called "religion" only because it's organized or institutional, but otherwise it's nothing but white magic with esoteric teaching.

Do you agree religion is white magic and what could esoteric teaching be?

If you don't agree, how would you rule out esoteric teaching?
Btw. keep in mind one good example that Jesus spoke in parables, which is a proof of existence of esoteric and exoteric teaching.

 

[TheLastFlame]

I belive that religion was white magick and is in small groups but not as whole teaching and I do look at jesus more as a wandering sage then a savior even though I'm not Christian or religious is any matter in the sense of praying and such because I think it blocks my veiw I think that alot of them were once a great esoteric teachings but through man got clouded and watered down because of personal gain and such like I'm pretty sure they said tax was a sin or something but now its removed as a sin that's crazy I missed the update.

 

[Viktor]

I didn't mean exclusively Christianity but any religion in the world.
In a sense of perennial philosophy but with emphasis that God is not universal truth but instead an esoteric concept.

In other words, religion is thus a white magic which works only because secrets have not been revealed,
if secrets happen to be revealed then religious teachings could either be used to do harm or it would stop working all together, which might be one reason why there is esoteric component.

 

[Roma]

I have never found an uncontaminated religion.

 

[DiLoco_DelEted]

I have pondered many times this question, is religion a white magic?
My personal opinion is that religion is white magic.

What I mean by this is that religions are used by various religion leaders to do presumably good things or to encourage doing good in order to attract,
while in fact religions have a hidden purpose known only to leaders (esoteric teaching), the public is however present with exoteric teachings.

It's difficult to say and perhaps subjective what the esoteric teaching could be, but ultimately since purpose of a religion is to encourage communion and doing good it logically follows that religion is white magic in a sense that magic is about supernatural powers to affect the world around us, which the religion indeed does since ever.

There is an issue with existence of God however, and this is the only reason why every religion may be esoteric in nature with exoteric teachings, ex. to prevent doubt about existence of a God.
Thus it logically follows that esoteric knowledge is about God's existence, therefore it's possible for the esoteric teaching to be that there is no God in fact but is present as existent in exoteric teachings.

I thus think religion is called "religion" only because it's organized or institutional, but otherwise it's nothing but white magic with esoteric teaching.

Do you agree religion is white magic and what could esoteric teaching be?

If you don't agree, how would you rule out esoteric teaching?
Btw. keep in mind one good example that Jesus spoke in parables, which is a proof of existence of esoteric and exoteric teaching.

I would say the magic grade is gray.

 

[Viktor]

I would say the magic grade is gray.

Perhaps I should have omitted "white" and just say that religions are nothing but magic in a sense that people are bewitched.

 

[DiLoco_DelEted]

Not really, I think you're onto something, I just think some use religion as a mask for black magic, particularly in charismatic religions.

 

[Viktor]

Yeah, well that's nothing strange for sects and cults, I personally don't even consider these to be religions.
But major religions don't really afford messing up with such stupid endeavors.

The magic that major religions exercise is much more sophisticated and potent.
I would like to learn their secrets to improve my capabilities but it's like trying to break an AES key.

One fascinating proof is that major religions do not change their dogma as often or not at all and still hold enormous power,
which is very interesting because in relation to political ideologies which all vanish with time, religious dogma holds it's position without change for centuries and millenias.

Now that's what I call real magic.
I never heard of any mage so powerful to influence the world as much.
There is some essence which needs to be learned for the purpose to gain that power,
that is what I seek, small spells and funky stuff is not interesting, guys we should seek real world power if anyone want to be strong mage.

 

[DiLoco_DelEted]

Episcopalians and Anglicans along with Martinists and Catholics imo practice white magic. Quite well at that.

 

[Roma]

I walked past a religious group with an outdoor wedding celebration.

All the adult males had dark octopus-like entities on their heads managing their brain thoughts.

Most of the women and older children had larvae-like entities on the front of their hearts taking life force

 

[DiLoco_DelEted]

I can attest to Mormons practicing magic, divided under Law of Suggestion (VIII Strength) and Law of Response (IX The Hermit), though it's under Aaronic and Melchezidek priesthood. There is freemasonic structure there. There is doctrine and services there. There is a holy book. There is baptisms in the temple for the dead. There is normal baptism there.

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While they agree with the KJV Bible, they have their own additional testament.

 

[Yazata]

Religion is often called white or even Ceremonial Magick. The older I get, the more I appreciate the "set up" of Catholicism, and how they incorporated the good from older (pagan?) beliefs, with for example Maria as the substitute for most older goddesses.

One fascinating proof is that major religions do not change their dogma as often or not at all and still hold enormous power

I'm reading about Crowley's Gnostic Mass, and (forgot where I read it...) it is said to be based on the classic Latin mass of Catholicism (the Tridentine Mass). Turns out this mass has been forbidden a couple of times by the popes, including the current one, and there is special permission required to celebrate it.