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[Help] Is there any reason that antidepressants would negatively effect your ability to preform magik?

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I would only be on a low dose but I was wondering if antidepressants can negatively effect your ability to preform magik (meditation, sigil magik ect). It would mainly be to help me deal with anxiety and depression but I worry that it would mess with my magik ability. Additionally I feel much more focused and connected when I am in a depressive state so I wonder if that would have an effect but equally so the anxiety can get in the way since it can be pretty all consuming. So yeah I was just wondering what you guys thought and maybe if any of you have personal experiences with this stuff. Thanks in advance
 
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the responsible response:
talk to your doctor/psychiatrist and make known your concerns. ask them if there are alternatives to medication.

what i really think (the dangerous response):
anti-depressants work on serotonin receptors by scarring the neuron effecting its ability to re-uptake any serotonin it sends to other neurons that doesn't get taken through the first signal. the popular belief amongst modern psychiatry is that depression and anxiety are caused by a neurochemical imbalance of serotonin and dopamine that works on a bell curve (so too little serotonin causes depression but too much serotonin also causes depression). Now I am no pharmacologist, doctor, or psychiatrist but as a magus I have a pretty vested interest in altered states of consciousness, neurochemicals, and how brain function effects perception and spend a lot of time digging around this kind of research. This chemical imbalance theory is just a theory (that in recent times is getting called into question more and more), and does not have a lot research studies backing the efficacy of this "serotonin imbalance causing depression" hypothesis. We see in most of these studies placebos effecting participants at the same rate as the anti-depressants and in some cases being more effective than the anti-depressant in the clinical case study.

Now for people who are familiar with the neurochemistry behind psychedelics and psychoactives they will know that a lot of the hallucinogenic properties are tied directly to the interplay between dopamine and serotonin re-uptake. Meaning that serotonin is pretty important in the function of altered perception. It is common knowledge amongst psychonauts that taking antidepressants will nullify most of the perceptive effects of tryptamines and phenathylamines and is suggested for the drug user to retire anti-depressants for approximately one month if they want the full effects of hallucinogens.

So what does this mean for magic? As magicians we play with and experience altered states of consciousness. Now I do not believe practical magic necessarily requires altered states of perception and consciousness. A spell is a spell. However for more advanced techniques, the magus needs to be trained in liminal skills, able to alter their state of perception and consciousness at will, and neurologically speaking... enforce different branwaves and neurochemicals. Having a foreign drug in the mind that actively works to scarify your neurons is probably not the best for the goals of the magus.

On top of this: mystics and magus across the historical record are frequently retrocasted as being either ocd, maniacs or bipolar. There may be some truth to this, perhaps these psychiatric diagnoses of rapidly oscillating moods and perceptions led men of the past into mysticism to explain their experiences. Whether it is the case or not, I can attest to the fact that through the process of initiation, meditation, and integration of the self one learns that most of the time, mild anxiety and depression or general mood disorders are more often than not spiritual illnesses and not the mental ones the secular world purports them to be. That through integrating the self, living in service of others, and in constant communion with God/the Kosmos one will be relinquished of these "diagnoses".

So the short answer is that: yes anti-depressants are going to effect your brain. sometimes the solution isn't a pill. the modern man is discontent because they have forgotten how to be human. you can relieve your depression through living a well rounded and well adjusted spiritual lifestyle.

INB4: people come in here and take offense to my stance against the use of psychiatric medications for anxiety and depression
 

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I would only be on a low dose but I was wondering if antidepressants can negatively effect your ability to preform magik (meditation, sigil magik ect).

yes, it can have a negative effect

It would mainly be to help me deal with anxiety and depression but I worry that it would mess with my magik ability.

fair

Additionally I feel much more focused and connected when I am in a depressive state so I wonder if that would have an effect but equally so the anxiety can get in the way since it can be pretty all consuming.

~nods~

So yeah I was just wondering what you guys thought and maybe if any of you have personal experiences with this stuff. Thanks in advance

I do. And you're welcome.

1) The most important over-arching principle which contributes to successfully accessing mental health care is collaboration between patient and provider. If you haven't been open and honest about your ritual/religious craft/practice with your provider, I recommend starting to look for a new provider with whom you feel more confident.

2) The extent to which the medication effects magik ability will naturally depend on many factors, but, I find that periods of disconnection are useful, particularly if my progress has plateaued.

3) Long term? I can only speak for myself. I have several different prescriptions of my own which I have used on and off for the past 25 years ( I'm almost 50 ), and I have not experienced any long term negative effects in regard to occult practice. To the contrary, I feel more confident in my own ... explorations ... knowing that I have medications which will knock me out cold, for lack of better words, if I go too far. But that's just my own experiences.

4) For you, based on what you wrote, trying the medication sounds like a good idea. If only to have a frame of reference: "OK, so this is how it feels to try to practice my ritual/craft while being treated for anxiety+depression." It's good knowledge to have, imo, even if it's ruling out the meds.
 

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I would only be on a low dose but I was wondering if antidepressants can negatively effect your ability to preform magik (meditation, sigil magik ect). It would mainly be to help me deal with anxiety and depression but I worry that it would mess with my magik ability. Additionally I feel much more focused and connected when I am in a depressive state so I wonder if that would have an effect but equally so the anxiety can get in the way since it can be pretty all consuming. So yeah I was just wondering what you guys thought and maybe if any of you have personal experiences with this stuff. Thanks in advance
Hello!

In my experience, both with myself and in the broader magical community watching others, I observe that the most sucessful works are performed when the practicioner is in the most stable and confident state of mind. Ceremonial magics make use of wards and protections to keep interference and ill will away during a ritual, I see no difference in using a medical aid to calm the mind and make sure you are in your best headspace before performing magic. I will say that I observe the most effective treatment paths seem to combine meditation and personal work in concurrence with medicinal aid, though.
 

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Just yesterday I was talking to a friend about a suspect local doctor we both no longer go to . Part of his problem is an insistence that his patients take his view as 'gospel' and his reliance on pharmaceutical drugs . He wanted my friend to take anti-depressants , she said no, he insisted and started hassling her so she agreed to get him off her back (but chucked the script out when she got home ) .

Two weeks later he rings her up to check on her wondering if she was by herself or had 'support' as the drugs might actually make things worse for the first few weeks .

I feel the need to comment here also that , Abbamon the Great's post 2 is excellent and well observed . I cant really add to that except , in my view , magick, correctly operated and holistically incorporated should actually bring about the opposite of depression ; eudamonia .
 

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I have been on SSRIs for a few years, and they haven't particularly affected my magical practice. I started doing magic more consistently after getting on them, though that could be due to a number of other factors.

My experience with them has been overall pretty neutral. I will probably taper off eventually (reduced my dose by a third 2 months ago) but don't regret being on them.

I think if you are considering SSRIs and feel like you have an informed opinion, they're worth trying out. If you get negative effects and don't think they're worth it, you can stop.
 

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I have experimented a tiny bit with such medicine. Antis and benzos. Absolutely nothing good came from them.
They made me dull, numb, drowsy and sleepy. Spiritually senses started playing tricks, made them much worse.
Even worse were the withdrawal effects. Even though I used them for less than a week at once, something tilted in my head after quitting. For 2 to 3 days I felt bad.

I would say most of them are not doing anything good just numbing. They do not get rid of the problem they just put it to the background, maybe even create a new set of problems.
Friends who used them became addicts. One guy was and probably still is into benzos. He does not function without them. Some went crazy after decades of abuse. I will never forget. One woman went so crazy that she thought all her neighbors were spying on her through the lamps. She used way too much of everything for at least 20 years.

I can remember some boosting effects from microdosing stimulants though. I used a little bit while doing my mantra practices and felt boosted.

Spiritual practices can lead to the release of brain chemistry. This is the best approach. Sure it might take serious efforts but once you unlock something you can create good effects yourself. The altered states can feel amazing. I'm a big fan of this approach(y)
 
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