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I'm glad people are interested in the Grimorium Verum again. I was not aware it was on anyone's radar much. I hope this unedited Yahoo Groups post from Conjureman Ali (albertgreat27 ) from 2011 will be useful to those starting to explore the Verum “system” as JSK would sometimes phrase it.
(Apologies to Conjureman Ali for posting this, but it is too useful to let fall into the digital abyss.)
A little backstory. I was a member of Jake Stratton-Kent's Verum Yahoo group posting under the name 'Mr. Sulpher' . I feel it’s tragic loss that resource has gone away with Yahoo's closing down of the Groups in Dec, 2020. Aside from early BBSs it was one of the first places Gen-X magicians could meet online after coming out of the occult scenes of 1990's to compare notes and share our experiences.
Something of note here: Conjureman Ali's had not yet completed the major Verum procedure of the First Character, and was working in a Southern Conjure / Hoodoo / Brujeria method. Jake said, and I agree, there re many entry point into the Verum system, and this in one of them, adding their seals to the Hoodo-style spell working of jar spells, mojo bags, and other.
This is a more what Verum might call "implicit pact" rather than an "explicit pact" - and is far more -seat-of-the-pants than the more formal working, but also totally works. It has benefits of easier set-up and access, but note you are are forgoing some of the protections of the formal Verum rite.
Best to you all,
Morgan Black
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Verum Hoodoo Results
albertgreat27
Apr 7, 2011
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Hello Friends and Colleagues,
I've spent some time now working with the spirits of the GV in my root working practice and thought I'd share some of my results.
I am a professional rootworker and readers of many years and my approach is informed by my studies in Near Eastern magical practices and hoodoo. In the past I've worked with goetic spirits, espcially from the Keys of Solomon, in my hoodoo work and I've found them effacious. In fact such a method is not new and there were many urban hoodoos that employed a similar method.
That said, myself and my clients have found the work and spirits within the GV to be very adaptive to hoodoo method--there seems something entirely natural about it.
Well here we are:
Love Doll Baby Work With Sergutthy-
Client's wife walked out on him and his children to be with another man. Reading proved that action was justified. A doll baby was made stuffed with love and controlling herbs and roots. Then on parchment the talisman from the "Natural Secrets" section on "To Make a Girl Come to You" was traced out. On one side was written the target's name, dob, and a piece of her hair was taped. On the other side the character of Sergutthy was traced. The paper was dressed in love oil and smoked in incence that had some extra saltpeter in it to speed up the work and also make an offering of fire. The paper talisman was then stuffed into the doll and the doll as sewn up. It was given to the client to keep in his underwear drawer, wrapped in some used under garments.
Result: Client reported that his wife started texting after months of not speaking to him. Within a week and a half regular communication was established. Within 3 weeks she'd moved back in. Successful.
Protection Mojo With Morail-
Client was in a dangerous situation and needed serious protection. Mojo crafted with protective herbs and roots. Seal of Morail was traced out on a petition paper with clients name, dob, and lock of hair on the back with a specific prayer to help the client go about undetected by his enemies. Paper placed in the mojo hand which was then brought to life in tradition hoodoo manner.
Result: Client reported that within a day of getting mojo hand he was able to go through life and his attackers seemed like they didn't notice him. Its been 1 month and he's been unmolested. Success.
Crossing and Cursing with Guland-
This work was adapted from the "Natural Secrets" from the section on "Death Spell by Magic Image" It makes use of the seal of Surgat which didn't make sense to me, so I instead stuck with Guland who can cause illnesses. Client's husband's cousin was lighting candles on her to ruin her marriage. The work had escalated to the point where this cousin was laying out goofer dust on her property and also targeting her kids. Divination showed action by me was justified. I created a doll baby with crossing herbs and roots along with the seal of Guland on the back of the target's photo. No personal concern was available. The seal was sewn in and the doll baby was hung from a string over a black candle dressed with crossing oil and black arts oil while praying imprecatory psalms. This was done for a period of 13 days. Followed up by burying the doll at the target's house.
Result: Client reported that while work was going on at my end she didn't hear a peep from the target. After the doll baby was buried, still nothing. By week two after the burial client got word that target had been struck by a heavy fever and was running a high temperature. Fever persisted for several days and target was rushed to hospital. Target has remained in poor health for past 3 months with reports of sever abdominal pain, migraines, and high temperaturs that have kept her from harassing client. To prevent death, the doll baby was unburied, sent back to me. Where I dismantled it while smoking in Jinx Killer incense, then set an offering of fire with Florida Water for Guland and let the paper burn in the fire. Ashes scattered at crossroads. Success.
Vision of Future/Dreaming True with the Grimoire Verum:
Talismanic shape traced out, put my name in the center and petition on back. Done by light of a white candle dressed with Psychic Vision oil. Smoked the paper in corresponding incense while praying the orison from text followed up by a psalm. Placed paper under my pillow and a cup of water next to my bed to help filter out misleading dreams.
Result: Received a vivid dream about what I had asked about. Confirmed with a reading. Found that my reading sharper the next day as well.
Given that these experiments have gone so well so far, I'm going to be setting up formal pacts and shrines soon and will post when I'm getting the ritual tools underway. I've ordered the wands from Underworld Apothecary a while ago and they've been sitting on my St. Cyprian altar for a while waiting for me to start.
Will update when I get there.
CMA
(Apologies to Conjureman Ali for posting this, but it is too useful to let fall into the digital abyss.)
A little backstory. I was a member of Jake Stratton-Kent's Verum Yahoo group posting under the name 'Mr. Sulpher' . I feel it’s tragic loss that resource has gone away with Yahoo's closing down of the Groups in Dec, 2020. Aside from early BBSs it was one of the first places Gen-X magicians could meet online after coming out of the occult scenes of 1990's to compare notes and share our experiences.
Something of note here: Conjureman Ali's had not yet completed the major Verum procedure of the First Character, and was working in a Southern Conjure / Hoodoo / Brujeria method. Jake said, and I agree, there re many entry point into the Verum system, and this in one of them, adding their seals to the Hoodo-style spell working of jar spells, mojo bags, and other.
This is a more what Verum might call "implicit pact" rather than an "explicit pact" - and is far more -seat-of-the-pants than the more formal working, but also totally works. It has benefits of easier set-up and access, but note you are are forgoing some of the protections of the formal Verum rite.
Best to you all,
Morgan Black
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Verum Hoodoo Results
albertgreat27
Apr 7, 2011
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Hello Friends and Colleagues,
I've spent some time now working with the spirits of the GV in my root working practice and thought I'd share some of my results.
I am a professional rootworker and readers of many years and my approach is informed by my studies in Near Eastern magical practices and hoodoo. In the past I've worked with goetic spirits, espcially from the Keys of Solomon, in my hoodoo work and I've found them effacious. In fact such a method is not new and there were many urban hoodoos that employed a similar method.
That said, myself and my clients have found the work and spirits within the GV to be very adaptive to hoodoo method--there seems something entirely natural about it.
Well here we are:
Love Doll Baby Work With Sergutthy-
Client's wife walked out on him and his children to be with another man. Reading proved that action was justified. A doll baby was made stuffed with love and controlling herbs and roots. Then on parchment the talisman from the "Natural Secrets" section on "To Make a Girl Come to You" was traced out. On one side was written the target's name, dob, and a piece of her hair was taped. On the other side the character of Sergutthy was traced. The paper was dressed in love oil and smoked in incence that had some extra saltpeter in it to speed up the work and also make an offering of fire. The paper talisman was then stuffed into the doll and the doll as sewn up. It was given to the client to keep in his underwear drawer, wrapped in some used under garments.
Result: Client reported that his wife started texting after months of not speaking to him. Within a week and a half regular communication was established. Within 3 weeks she'd moved back in. Successful.
Protection Mojo With Morail-
Client was in a dangerous situation and needed serious protection. Mojo crafted with protective herbs and roots. Seal of Morail was traced out on a petition paper with clients name, dob, and lock of hair on the back with a specific prayer to help the client go about undetected by his enemies. Paper placed in the mojo hand which was then brought to life in tradition hoodoo manner.
Result: Client reported that within a day of getting mojo hand he was able to go through life and his attackers seemed like they didn't notice him. Its been 1 month and he's been unmolested. Success.
Crossing and Cursing with Guland-
This work was adapted from the "Natural Secrets" from the section on "Death Spell by Magic Image" It makes use of the seal of Surgat which didn't make sense to me, so I instead stuck with Guland who can cause illnesses. Client's husband's cousin was lighting candles on her to ruin her marriage. The work had escalated to the point where this cousin was laying out goofer dust on her property and also targeting her kids. Divination showed action by me was justified. I created a doll baby with crossing herbs and roots along with the seal of Guland on the back of the target's photo. No personal concern was available. The seal was sewn in and the doll baby was hung from a string over a black candle dressed with crossing oil and black arts oil while praying imprecatory psalms. This was done for a period of 13 days. Followed up by burying the doll at the target's house.
Result: Client reported that while work was going on at my end she didn't hear a peep from the target. After the doll baby was buried, still nothing. By week two after the burial client got word that target had been struck by a heavy fever and was running a high temperature. Fever persisted for several days and target was rushed to hospital. Target has remained in poor health for past 3 months with reports of sever abdominal pain, migraines, and high temperaturs that have kept her from harassing client. To prevent death, the doll baby was unburied, sent back to me. Where I dismantled it while smoking in Jinx Killer incense, then set an offering of fire with Florida Water for Guland and let the paper burn in the fire. Ashes scattered at crossroads. Success.
Vision of Future/Dreaming True with the Grimoire Verum:
Talismanic shape traced out, put my name in the center and petition on back. Done by light of a white candle dressed with Psychic Vision oil. Smoked the paper in corresponding incense while praying the orison from text followed up by a psalm. Placed paper under my pillow and a cup of water next to my bed to help filter out misleading dreams.
Result: Received a vivid dream about what I had asked about. Confirmed with a reading. Found that my reading sharper the next day as well.
Given that these experiments have gone so well so far, I'm going to be setting up formal pacts and shrines soon and will post when I'm getting the ritual tools underway. I've ordered the wands from Underworld Apothecary a while ago and they've been sitting on my St. Cyprian altar for a while waiting for me to start.
Will update when I get there.
CMA
