• Hi guest! As you can see, the new Wizard Forums has been revived, and we are glad to have you visiting our site! However, it would be really helpful, both to you and us, if you registered on our website! Registering allows you to see all posts, and make posts yourself, which would be great if you could share your knowledge and opinions with us! You could also make posts to ask questions!

Journal Martial Arts Energies in Practice

A record of a users' progress or achievements in their particular practice.

HoldAll

Librarian
Staff member
Librarian
Joined
Jul 3, 2023
Messages
5,184
Reaction score
25,910
Awards
16
Ageing Pt. 2

In 2013, capoeira master
Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!
cycled
Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!
to celebrate his 70th birthday and to raise awareness and funds for
Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!
a drug addiction rehabilitation centre. I had the good fortune of catching him once at a workshop in 2009 and still treasure a photo of him and me, and I couldn't be prouder if somebody had taken a picture of me with the Pope or the Dalai Lama.

Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!


Mestre Acordeon at age 74.

However, I don't plan on writing about all those septuagenarian martial arts titans out there to shame everybody who's slowly beginning to feel the effects of old age creeping in into exercising more and getting fit. For each of these shining examples, there are hundreds of other ageing long-time martial artists who had to quit due to serious health problems and on doctor's orders, for important private reasons, or just because they didn't enjoy practicing anymore - after all, there are more important things in life than karate and capoeira. There also videos on youtube showing pretty decrepit Okinawan karate masters performing katas agonizingly slow, and
Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!
, 84 at that time,
Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!
either (although it certainly looks like he had been having fun!).

At that 2009 workshop, Mestre Acordeon explained that he wasn't able to play low games close to the ground and do the
Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!
anymore because both his knees were shot. In spite of that, he made all the other assembled contra-mestres and mestres (who had terrorised us noobs in the roda at previous year's workshop) tumble like ninepins with his ingenious takedowns. As I said in my previous post, experience can help make up for lost youthful energy because you'll be able to anticipate your opponent's/partner's moves better; however, he wouldn't have been able to keep up in a really fast game, that's for sure.

What I'd like to plead here for is finding yourself a sport that is varied and demanding when it comes to motor skills and coordination, and which is capable of really gripping and fascinating you to the point of (mild, age-adequate) obsession instead of dragging yourself to the gym a couple of times a week and half-heartedly lifting weights, or waiting for that seemingly interminable spinning class to end. Sometimes people in the mid-forties show up at the dojo, out of shape but dead set on learning karate because it's what they had been dreaming of all their lives. Sometimes it's just a midlife-crisis flash in the pan but some will stay on and carry it through to black belt. If tennis, cycling, or running are your thing, fine, but the advantage of martial arts in general is that they'll engage your entire body in a multitude of complex combinations, and the stretching portion (something that many joggers are wont to neglect!) before every class will ensure that your body will remain supple while the rest of your peers are becoming stiffer and stiffer year by year.

Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!


Legendary French karate champion and kickboxing pioneer
Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!
at age 66.

Being a true martial artist is like being a professional musician - you don't stop playing just because you've hit forty or fifty; you're in it for life. It will not be even hard because after some years, your martial art will have become such a big part of your self-image and identity that quitting is as good as unimaginable. As I mentioned in previous posts, it's no good to make solemn New Years resolutions and allow your intellect to badger you into purchasing a gym membership while your emotions are beginning to protest ever more loudly and will finally go on general strike by the end of January. If you're looking for discipline and rigour, karate may be for you; if you want to remember how much fun it was to horse around as a child, capoeira can be your friend.

Just a suggestion.
 

HoldAll

Librarian
Staff member
Librarian
Joined
Jul 3, 2023
Messages
5,184
Reaction score
25,910
Awards
16
Uke

When you hear the expression 'martial arts energies', you usually think about spirited attacks that will crush everything in their path. However, you must also be able to use your martial arts energies defensively, which is why karate students are told right from the start to perform their blocks with the same force and decisiveness as punches and kicks. Effective blocking will also boost your confidence in self-defence situation when faced with a real-life aggressor. They may be less 'sexy' than punches, kicks, locks, or chokes but may be all that can save you when facing a stronger opponent, at the same time signalling that you won't be intimidated even when being in a weaker position.

Defending is something of an art. The initiative is with your opponent, not yours, which doesn't necessarily mean that you're at a disadvantage - after all, it's always easier to react than to act. What's difficult is refrain from beating a headlong retreat by taking one step back after the other in a straight line and instead sidestepping and taking evasive circular action since there'll be the dojo's walls, other pairs of karatekas sparring, the borders of the competition mat, the ropes of the ring, the fence of the octagon, or obstacles like parked cars in street fights. You can't run away indefinitely but you should to be able to defend yourself as long as necessary.

In contrast to pre-arranged partner exercises for beginners, katas often contain blocks that are performed while literally on the back foot or standing in impossible stances, e.g. with crossed legs, yet another example for situations that 'pure' self-defence systems don't take into account - in such classes, the defender is always prepared, perfectly balanced and standing firm while in real life you may be caught unawares and in unfavourable stances that make applying all those fancy techniques next to impossible. The irony is that those self-defence systems don't really teach you how to defend yourself, only how to successfully exploit an aggressor's amateurish attacks at the very first try, leaving no margin for mistakes or botched countermoves.

Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!


This video is all about
uke, i.e. receiving. At 0:43, the protagonist eats a backfist (uraken uchi) which is usually blocked by an inside-outside block (uchi uke) or by simply raising one hand protectively. In both cases, the opponent's blow won't be deflected but must be simply withstood as it lands on the outside of your forearm.

Most Japanese technical terms for karate blocks (uchi uke, soto uke, age uke, shuto uke, etc.) end in the word uke. Uke comes from the verb ukeru which means 'to receive'. Although there are also blocks directly acting on the force of offensive techniques, most work by deflecting which is less demanding on your strength but requires a really strong stance, otherwise these blocks will be ineffective and make you lose your balance to boot. You receive an attack, nullify it and render it harmless while still keeping your composure and refusing to be cowed. The attacker's idea, on the other hand, is to 'overload' your defensive system by throwing entire combinations of different techniques at you, and you really need to remain calm when absorbing such flurries of blows until you finally get a chance to extricate yourself from your opponent's furious offence, reposition and launching a counter-attack of your own.

If you're already practicing a martial art, you should always ask yourself: would my block be strong enough to deflect a really hard punch, and would I be able to follow it up with an equally effective one, and another, and another? In karate, this is often practiced as a preliminary exercise for free sparring when one partner will be exclusively the attacker and the other one exclusively the defender, and where you will be able to focus fully on each role, just like the Okinawan sensei in his demonstration of uke.

Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!


With the exception of uechi-ryu, mainstream karate isn't very big on conditioning - Okinawan traditional styles are. Blocking can hurt, even when you're doing it correctly.


However, it would be completely wrong to classify uke as yin energy. Blocking feels just as aggressive as striking; you may be receiving but it's receiving on your terms. In capoeira, blocks are only used as a last resort; in karate, they're the primary means of defence since it's not always feasible to evade an attack and in such cases, you need to be confident and strong enough to stand your ground.
 

HoldAll

Librarian
Staff member
Librarian
Joined
Jul 3, 2023
Messages
5,184
Reaction score
25,910
Awards
16
As ye train, so shall ye fight

There's a story about this cop who was so obsessed with gun disarming that he would practice the same move thousands of times with his partner - grab gun with both hands, twist, take away gun, hand back gun to partner, grab again gun with with both hands, twist, on and on and on, until the disarming move became second nature to him. One day he was in a 7/11 when some guy tried to rob the place and held him at gunpoint. The cop reacted without thinking, grabbed the robber's gun with both hands, twisted, took away his gun - and promptly hand the gun back to him as he had done in interminable hours of practice. Luckily for him, his partner shot the amazed robber before the guy could do any damage, or so the cautionary tale goes.

Somehow related is my pet karate peeve concerning partner practice involving throws and takedowns where karateka often are often in the habit of offering a friendly outstretched hands to their downed opponents to help them up. Imagine being actually so chivalrous in real-life situations - both the defender and the aggressors would be able to exploit such a courteous gesture in any number of painful ways. When being taken down, you should roll away as quickly as possible and only get up once you've put a safe distance between you and your attacker, else you risk being hit with soccer kicks to your ribs or head. The guy left standing, on the other hand, could be dragged down and… I'd rather be hit in the face than being caught in an armlock on the ground, it's a horrible feeling, and
Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!
are even worse, I can tell you that from personal experience. Being so courteous and helping your partner up in such situations can be tantamount to handing the gun back to the 7/11 robber in real life.

One day a friend of a dojo buddy's brought his kickboxing group over who were curious about karate they had heard about so much. It was a long time ago, but I remember being paired with a young woman who was appalled: "What, practicing with a partner without any protective gear??" I thought "Hehe, now you can't hide behind those big gloves anymore!" I stopped being so cocksure as soon as she started punching to my midsection from a high boxing guard, which meant that they kept coming from above and not from a right angle like karate punches, so my usual blocks didn't work so well all of a sudden. When it was my turn, however, it soon became apparent that her high guard was insufficient because I stood in a low karate stance and my punches hit her just underneath her raised elbows - they would have protected her from punches coming from above but not from punches coming to her midsection at a right angle.

When fooling around before classes with my capoeira buddies sometimes, I found out that they were pretty good at defending against slaps to the side of their heads, without fail dodging or blocking them as a last resort, as they were so used to the curving trajectory of those many crescent kick used in capoeira. However, they were completely helpless as soon as I tried straight slaps to their faces - after all,
Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!
aren't used in capoeira.

Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!
games, on the other hand, are played at a much slower pace than in 'regular' capoeira (capoeira contemporânea), so whenever angoleros tried to join a fast capoeira contemporânea game at workshop or street rodas, they didn't fare so well, ducking much too slowly and clumsily to the point of being in real danger of getting concussed; a tai chi master will be probably knocked out by the very first wheel kick (meia lua de compasso) coming his way, being even less accustomed to such fast techniques.

Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!


World and European point-fighting champion Alexandre Biamonti as well Yul Brynner & Horst Buchholz in "The Magnificent Seven". The need for speed in the martial arts should be obvious.


Together with the jab (kizami zuki), the backfist (uraken uchi) is probably karate's fastest technique. Both are immediately retracted after delivering a short, sharp shock. Now the Almighty Google AI tells me that "
Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!
redirects energy by blending with an opponent's attack, using circular movements to lead their force past the practitioner and unbalance them" How the hell is that supposed to work against a lighting-fast jab or backfist? All I've ever seen from aikido classes in real life were inept slow-mo attacks easily thwarted by exploiting the aggressor's overcommitting (= leaning too far forward) when punching (which is broken out of karate beginners right from the start), getting too close (likewise), or striking blows while in comically unstable stances (ditto). Judging from all the enthusiastic propaganda put out by aikido websites, it's more about trying hard to prove the philosophical principle of non-aggression than teaching students to defend themselves properly, polemically put. However, there are videos of aikido masters on youtube who do know how to block hard, fast punches thrown by real fighters very competently, it's just that for every such master, thousands of students will have quit before getting any good; I guess the philosophical principle of aikido is considered more important here than an aikidoka's actual physical integrity.

It seems that the energies of various martial arts aren't compatible with each other or at least don't mix very well, and I don't mean just the kinetic energy 'redirected' by means of aikido techniques. It's as if different martial arts energies had a unique feel and taste that sets them apart from others in the way they defend or attack. Karate energy is aggressive and straightforward; capoeira energy is playful and sneaky - I wish I could say anything from my own personal experience about the grappling arts like judo, wrestling, or Brazilian jiu-jitsu but I'm sure that each of them has its distinct energy as well.
 

HoldAll

Librarian
Staff member
Librarian
Joined
Jul 3, 2023
Messages
5,184
Reaction score
25,910
Awards
16
A Slo-Mo Rant

I wonder whether any discussion about martial arts energies is possible without addressing the concept of qi, i.e. without explaining it rationally in terms of modern science, without debunking it as mythical, etc. In my opinion, the widespread exaggeration of the power of qi stems from humanity's unfortunate lust for miracles, its hunger for all kinds of sensations, and for heroic sagas about brave underdogs defeating much stronger opponents (David may have vanquished mighty Goliath but let's not forget that the guy had been using a projectile weapon). Why is it that miraculous powers are ever only ascribed to martial artists and not to golfers, tennis players, or swimmers? Why are there no tales about wizened old hermits running rings around much younger players on the soccer pitch? A story about how a
Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!
should not have made the BBC World News but then the poor guy was a tai chi master who had agreed to this uneven match of his own free will, so the public probably couldn't wait to witness some wondrous feat as per time-honoured narrative. Of course the tai chi master didn't win and was knocked out - did anybody expect a different outcome? Millions of Chinese apparently did…

In actuality, such contests do both tai chi and mixed martial arts a disservice. The tai chi master is made to look like a fool, the MMA fighter like a brutal thug, and everybody loses. However, traditional Chinese internal and external martial arts only have themselves to blame for this debacle after making bold claims such as these:

This skill can be used martially or medically as a projection skill. Basically, the person who has developed their chi to this level has obtained enough energetic strength to affect another person’s cells and bioelectric field through emitting their chi.
Sifu Dan Ferrera, "Qigong & The Power of Magnetic Fields" (free booklet)

Bagua's power, however, is more like an inflated beach ball: the practitioner's body becomes full of energy, which can be moved about at will and can be manifested to bounce an enemy a great distance away.
Liang Shou-Yu, Yang Jwing-Ming, Wu Wen-Ching - Baguazhang (Emei Baguazhang) - Chinese Internal Martial Arts, 1996

I take this to mean that practitioners able to transmit their qi outside their body to affect an opponent at a distance... Again, I'm not interested in debunking such claims and won't wait with bated breath for another mismatched contest, this time between a Baguazhang adept and yet another MMA fighter.

Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!


I actually like this tai chi form. There are some straight-up punches, kicks and flowing blocks (nagashi ukes) in there, some moves could be also interpreted as takedowns, and certain sequences even bear a resemblance to elements of shotokan katas. However, as I said in my previous post: as you train, so you will fight. Executing such techniques perfectly but dead slowly doesn't necessarily mean you'll be able to perform them at top speed and with full force as well. You can't develop any adequate timing and reflexes without practicing with a partner, and all you'll be ever able to is 'fighting' in the abstract. Practicing exclusively katas is unthinkable in karate, you have to perform (pre-arranged) partners exercises as soon as you take your very first grading exam.

It's always the same: staunch materialist sceptics will say that such things can never happen because they secretly believe that they shouldn't happen, credulous spiritual persons will say that such things do happen because they secretly believe that they should happen. Hence if it all comes down to belief anyway, facts won't matter. Accordingly, there may be in fact martial artists in China or somewhere who are able to bounce qi beach balls off their opponents, who knows? But does it really matter? It would when it was about new reliable and demonstrably effective healing methods employing qi power, not about some cheap martial arts stunts.

What I dislike about such outrageous claims is that they openly pander to vulgar sensationalism. For my part, I choose to remain on the sceptics' side and call "Bullshit!" on claims like these, not least because I value athleticism as a key ingredient to success in the martial arts and would consider such qi projection feats cheating (provided they were for real, of course).

A perverse habit NewAgers and many serious occultists share is this knee-jerk voyeurism triggered by anything supposedly 'hidden' or 'secret' - if something was genuinely hidden or secret, you wouldn't even know it existed, let alone read all about it in a book titled "The Hidden Power of X" or "The Secret Power of Y". In a way, you could label such tomes sources of spiritual pollution, in this case mocking serious martial artist who have been diligently practicing for decades but are apparently too stupid to learn how to wield the 'hidden, secret 'energies' behind effortless invincibility, no cardio or muscular strength required.

However, what upsets me the most is that all that dumb qi hype is clouding the issue for me. The martial arts energies I'm interested in are not some mythical superpowers to stun and amaze a naïve audience but rather the subtle forces and currents generated by the actual practice and application of martial arts, and I have a hunch that they'll be much more sophisticated than than any traditional notions about qi. Even now I'm expecting that these energies aren't antagonistic, with the energies of one fighter being pitted directly against those of the other until finally the more powerful forces of the stronger one win out; instead, I think that true martial arts energies are synergistic, enhancing and augmenting each other to form a new unique whole. This idea could also have implications for viewing occult energies in general because it would allow for the possibility that energies can intermingle and blend with one another instead of acting strictly separately and independently of each other. For example, I never got the feeling during dojo sparring that any martial energies were cancelling each other out, it was almost as if I was forming some kind of invisible bond with the other guy instead (ok, it was different on the competition mat). This synergistic effect is even more marked in capoeira circles where the common energies of the two players practically skyrocket as a consequence of the boost they receive from the music and the other capoeristas in the roda - when practicing capoeira moves alone, however, those energies are practically absent and can hardly be felt.

I don't know where my quest for the discovery of real martial arts energies in practice will take me yet in this Journal but it's safe to say even now that qi beach balls won't play any part in it, no way.
 
Top