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nembra is right but let me explain exactly why asking for this is the fastest way to destroy your own mind.
wanting to see and hear entities with your physical eyes and ears is not a sign of spiritual advancement. it is a massive red flag that your internal wiring is already leaking. in my tradition we are taught that the physical senses are meant for the physical world. they are your anchor to reality. if you start forcing your physical eyes to perceive the astral plane while you are wide awake and walking down the street, you are intentionally breaking the barrier that keeps you sane.
when you force the physical brain to process non-physical data without decades of structural energetic upgrades, you do not become a mage. you become a psychiatric patient. you will end up hearing voices that tell you to do terrible things and seeing shadows that drain your battery until you cannot function in normal society. that is not magic. that is possession and psychosis.
if you want to perceive the unseen, you train the inner eye through meditation, breathwork, and dream work. you build the vessel in the dark so you can project your gaze safely from behind closed eyelids or in deep trance. you keep the physical eyes for navigating traffic and looking people in the face when you speak to them.
do not look for a teacher who will promise you physical hallucinations on demand. any real mentor would tell you to go touch some grass, eat a heavy meal, and learn how to ground your energy before you ever ask to see a demon in broad daylight.
fix your foundation first. the unseen will show itself when your battery is strong enough to handle the voltage without frying your motherboard. until then, keep your physical senses locked on the physical world.
wanting to see and hear entities with your physical eyes and ears is not a sign of spiritual advancement. it is a massive red flag that your internal wiring is already leaking. in my tradition we are taught that the physical senses are meant for the physical world. they are your anchor to reality. if you start forcing your physical eyes to perceive the astral plane while you are wide awake and walking down the street, you are intentionally breaking the barrier that keeps you sane.
when you force the physical brain to process non-physical data without decades of structural energetic upgrades, you do not become a mage. you become a psychiatric patient. you will end up hearing voices that tell you to do terrible things and seeing shadows that drain your battery until you cannot function in normal society. that is not magic. that is possession and psychosis.
if you want to perceive the unseen, you train the inner eye through meditation, breathwork, and dream work. you build the vessel in the dark so you can project your gaze safely from behind closed eyelids or in deep trance. you keep the physical eyes for navigating traffic and looking people in the face when you speak to them.
do not look for a teacher who will promise you physical hallucinations on demand. any real mentor would tell you to go touch some grass, eat a heavy meal, and learn how to ground your energy before you ever ask to see a demon in broad daylight.
fix your foundation first. the unseen will show itself when your battery is strong enough to handle the voltage without frying your motherboard. until then, keep your physical senses locked on the physical world.
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