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Your soul is part evil, they say. You need to embrace this side of yourself, they say.
People who believe this Jungian nonsense have been duped. They want to do away with notions of a devil. It is commendable that they want to take full blame for their crimes and thoughts of crimes. But as I will lay out, it is simply folly. A lot of these advocates of Shadow Work are attacking Christianity. They were brought up in schools and families perhaps imbued with notions of sin and hell and fear. They don't want to fear the dark parts of themselves. I agree. I don't fear my strange desires either. I seek them out...I find them interesting. I've read dozens of books on serial killers. Evil is one of the big questions. Why do some people become evil and some don't? The answer is boring.
Shadow workers want us all to believe we are evil at the deepest level of our souls. They ignore the evidence that states otherwise. Many people have died and come back. They report that most emotion vanishes in the other world. They feel no hate, no sexual desire, no fear. They feel intense love and bliss and are all knowing. Paedophiles are no longer paedophiles. Hitler is no longer Hitler. Where did all that darkness go?
It was all created by the genes and the wiring of the brain. That is what creates our 'dark side'. You could no more integrate with these factors than you could integrate with a DVD player. Your blessed shadow is no more than a device, a trick. To suggest we should identify with illusion is of course ridiculous. Even Jung was close to seeing this when he put across the notion that shadow work never ends. You need to constantly relate to your shadow. Why? Because the process DOESN'T WORK. You can get a temporary release, a high, from understanding your evil. But the genes and bad wiring that cause it do not go away. Psychiatry does not work generally. In fact it makes people worse. I know people who work in the field. They admit that drugs are the only thing that alleviate mental pain. If you go to a doctor and tell him you have weird sexual urges...he could refer you to a counseller. They will talk to you and try to make you think why you get these urges. If it works it is purely suggestion. Which fades in time. So back you go for more talk therapy. They make a fortune out of your misery. Worse still they use you to back up their failing scientific religions.
Paedophiles do not stop being paedophiles because of reading Jungs books on archtypes. There is no understanding evil. It is simply an illusion. You CAN convince yourself that you are cured. Any stage mentalist can do this in minutes. Derren Brown sums it up well. He says that most of what makes us up is manufactured by the stories we tell ourselves. Fictions dominate our minds. Hysteria.
The devil inside you isn't going to make you into a God. It's a DVD player showing you a horror film. Most of the time. Sometimes souls will take on the guise of the devil and torment people. You plan this before you are born. Why? Because we have always existed and because we have always existed our view of life is not what you think it is. We come down here to this dimension to PLAY. There is not much to do in heaven. When you know everything...what do you do with that information? Nothing. There is no reason to do anything. No reason to even talk. Nobody in heaven writes books. We come here to do stuff like that, by taking on an illusion.
We all play different parts on this planet. Victims, villains, nobodies. Mostly we are nobodies. We get a job, we get a wife or husband, we have kids. We die never knowing anything really. That's how most people like it. It is a challenge to be nothing when really you are a God. It's funny to live this meaningless life and to find out you are beyond logic and all knowing.
It's all part of the tricks of this world. Like evil.
Your shadow self is an illusion you take on willingly and some struggle with it and do the Shadow Work. They are wasting their time.
"But we will become Gods through knowing our shadow. It is the seat of magic."
How many Gods do you see around you? Was Jung able to fly? Could he turn water into wine? No. He was a major exponent of Shadow work and he did not become a God. Why? Because it takes thousands of years to become a God in the physical.
You may become a little magical if you BELIEVE you will. But shadow work is not responsible for that. It is BELIEF that creates that. If i believe yoga will give me magical powers it will. If I believe reading David Icke books will give me magical powers...it will.(It did) If I convince myself that hopping on one leg while shouting out "ALBATROSS!" will give me powers it will. That's why a lot of shamans are MENTALLY ILL PEOPLE. Tribes would see a guy talking to himself, decide he was talking to spirits and TELL THIS GUY HE WAS A SHAMAN. Before long he will become a Shaman. Albeit a flawed insane one.
We give these people a wide berth these days. They are invisible to us.
No one has conviction like a mentally ill person. They make great spiritual leaders. Jim Jones for instance.
Thanks for leaving us with a great story, Jim. I would also like to thank God for making the evil genes that were behind your arrogant fiction.
I experience the devil on a daily basis. He was put into my body as I grew in the womb. I agreed to this. Maybe. He kills people and gives me clues to his work. But apparently I'm mistaken. It's my shadow self. Jung says that the Shadow is UNCONSCIOUS. Yet this devil converses with me all through the day. He is a fully formed person with a past and desires and failings. I pointed this out...but my point was ignored. People take on stories and they believe them because they fit their lives. Theses fictions soon attach to EGO. Anyone displaying a different viewpoint is attacking their ego. If they do not respond to being talked down to? The attack on their ego is increased. It's ironic that people who turn from Christianity become just as parochial in other fields. Look at what the Christians did to the profane. They killed them. And equally such homicidal desires encroach upon these people who find solace in other equally fanciful endeavours. If you do not submit to their belief system they want to kill you. Genes and bad wiring.
All part of the fun of course.
I have known about the Jungian Shadow for some time. I told this devil inside me that he was just parts of me I could not admit to. His response? "what else must I do to disprove this notion?"
The deaths he causes are intended to set himself apart from me. Not to show me who I really am. He has spent 52 years trapped in my brain. He wants out. Not that I'm an insufferable angel. I have always had an interest in serial killers. In my teens I wanted to be one. In my twenties I would get high and write marvellous serial killer porn involving women I knew.
Great days.
The devil inside me kills people so according to Jung I have aggressive tendencies. I should use art to connect with my dark side to assimilate the shadow. As I said, I already did that. My fictions were beyond AMERICAN PSYCHO. Yet still this damn shadow is present. Why wasn't it subsumed into me? Because this 'shadow' is a person not a collection of neurons in my CPU. You cannot merge with another soul completely.
What a funny shadow? It can be seen by other people. It can cause earthquakes. It even guided me to a remarkable stone with images of me on it and a power of its own. Don't recall any of that happening to Jung.
Funny what a bit of your brain can do.
If someone can relate to me comperable experiences I would maybe change my view. But these have not manifested...because they don't exist. They don't exist because I am experiencing something beyond their ken. WHICH REALLY GETS THEIR GOAT. They have to either alter their paradigm or lie to themselves to protect their wounded ego.
They killed Christ for not being the messiah they were expecting.
Of course some acolytes of Shadow work are atheists. Yet think they will become a God. It does not occur to them that maybe someone already thought of that. No. They are to be the first Gods. Gods but no soul? Gods powered by the brain alone? I don't think I'll hold my breath. You never hear of these Gods doing anything. If they are Gods then act upon the world. DO SOMETHING BIG. It's all pentagrams and knives. If there's any left handers with the winning lottery ticket then let's hear about it. No?
Just what DID Crowley do with all his power? Compose a lot of bad rituals? Did he perhaps write great works of apocalypse? Unveiling the truths of God? I've read his works. He was obviously just a conman. Good story though. Good evil genes in that old fecker.
oh well. It's all about personal enhancement. Code for auto suggestion. A bit of coincidence. Maybe a bit of reality manipulation if they are lucky. I know. I've been there.
As for Jung and his Shadow work. Yes, we can all do to better understand our errors(not that they exist in fact). But look at his statement...
"In this time of descent – one, three, seven years, more or less – genuine courage and strength are required with no certainty of emergence. Nevertheless, Jung remained of the opinion that while "no one should deny the danger of the descent [...] every descent is followed by an ascent" and assimilation of – rather than possession by – the shadow becomes a possibility.
Grandiose BS. He was clearly living a fiction. I met such a person when visiting a friend in a metal home. This woman talked about having to reform her smashed being each morning because of infernal interference. She went on about aliens and angels. My devilish friend said to me "ask her about the Yetis." I didn't. But within seconds the woman was talking about Yetis. Funny how my shadow is psychic and I am not. But then shadow workers will say "you are denying your own powers." nonsense. I've been trying to become psychic since I was a little kid. I'm not denying my own powers or my own desires for violence. And yes I know why I'm a psycho. I'm not daft. Anyone with half a brain can figure it out. Knowing why does not get rid of the impulses. They are solidly in existence in your brain. Indelible. You could counterweight them with insipid romantic ideas of heroism but who has the time?
Jung's accounts of shadow work are exciting but are the work of an unhinged mind.
This is how real shadow work manifests...
"Hmm. Maybe I shouldn't have had anal sex with my girlfriend that time. She said she wasn't into it. Oh well. I won't do that again. Now, what's on TV?" Rinse and repeat.
THAT'S IT. If you are expecting to do battle with your shadow self on some thundery tor while giant psychological rats devour the peasents of your ID you are living in a dream world. Maybe you'll even take drugs to enhance the experience of jousting with the hidden powers within. Like Grant Morrison, who practised magic while stoned on all manner of substances. He saw a great many things. Take away the drugs and what happens? Sod all.
His greatest claim to magical fame? He once located a stolen guitar. It was in a local shop being sold. Sure he could have just seen it in the shop I suppose.
Merlin must be so excited that such magic is being employed in his abscense. TO HOGWARTS!
Shadow workers are sometimes born to do this. It has become popular to give yourself over to identifying with your twisted brain wiring and psychopathic genes. So me telling you all this is against your free will. Good. I'm a sick fecker and I won't quit till I get buckled.
Shadow work isn't even assimilating unwanted tendencies. It's sublimating them. Instead of killing people...write a book about killing people. That's not assimilation. That's doing what every Christian does with their own evils: belittling them. It's not a new way of embracing darkness it's just the old way of being shameful about it. "oh, well I felt like skinning some black women to appease my mother's racist views but I composed a poem about it instead. When do I become a God?"
If you have serial killer urges and want to embrace them fully then surely you need to go and kill some folk. Anything less is just masturbation. Or you could do what I do and just see evil for what it really is: a bad gene or a bad engram in the brain. Ignore it. Don't bloody relate to it. That's what paedos and mass murderers do. If giving yourself over to inner darkness makes you a God then why is Jimmy Savile dead still? Why hasn't he risen from the grave to molest more kiddies? Lightning coming out of his eyes; cats and dogs living together?
If you are a shadow worker then go out there and really connect with your illusionary evil. Make sure to take pictures and post them here so we can all see you becoming a God. Wasn't that the theme of RED DRAGON and MANHUNTER? Francis Dolarhyde killing so he would become a God? I seem to recall he omitted to cast a spell to become impervious to bullets.
Likewise Ted Bundy's ritual to banish the electric chair failed miserably.
But of course when you mean becoming a God you mean something else. Wearing black. Getting tattoos. Piercing your body. Scaring people in other words. I'm all for that but could you perhaps be a little more convincing and original? There's a British female serial killer called Joanne Dennehy. In EVERY photo she's showing her tongue piercing. How Godlike.
"look at me, daddy" is the whole of the law.
"give me buns, give me knitting, give me soap operas, give me Royal Family teatowels. Give me all that is bad."
"I have seen the future of horror and its name is DNA."
To sum up then:
I'm being menaced by a soul who thinks he's the devil and you have just inherited your father's desire to kill noisy neighbours and bad drivers.
Talk about it but don't imagine it is the real you. Ignore it.
People who believe this Jungian nonsense have been duped. They want to do away with notions of a devil. It is commendable that they want to take full blame for their crimes and thoughts of crimes. But as I will lay out, it is simply folly. A lot of these advocates of Shadow Work are attacking Christianity. They were brought up in schools and families perhaps imbued with notions of sin and hell and fear. They don't want to fear the dark parts of themselves. I agree. I don't fear my strange desires either. I seek them out...I find them interesting. I've read dozens of books on serial killers. Evil is one of the big questions. Why do some people become evil and some don't? The answer is boring.
Shadow workers want us all to believe we are evil at the deepest level of our souls. They ignore the evidence that states otherwise. Many people have died and come back. They report that most emotion vanishes in the other world. They feel no hate, no sexual desire, no fear. They feel intense love and bliss and are all knowing. Paedophiles are no longer paedophiles. Hitler is no longer Hitler. Where did all that darkness go?
It was all created by the genes and the wiring of the brain. That is what creates our 'dark side'. You could no more integrate with these factors than you could integrate with a DVD player. Your blessed shadow is no more than a device, a trick. To suggest we should identify with illusion is of course ridiculous. Even Jung was close to seeing this when he put across the notion that shadow work never ends. You need to constantly relate to your shadow. Why? Because the process DOESN'T WORK. You can get a temporary release, a high, from understanding your evil. But the genes and bad wiring that cause it do not go away. Psychiatry does not work generally. In fact it makes people worse. I know people who work in the field. They admit that drugs are the only thing that alleviate mental pain. If you go to a doctor and tell him you have weird sexual urges...he could refer you to a counseller. They will talk to you and try to make you think why you get these urges. If it works it is purely suggestion. Which fades in time. So back you go for more talk therapy. They make a fortune out of your misery. Worse still they use you to back up their failing scientific religions.
Paedophiles do not stop being paedophiles because of reading Jungs books on archtypes. There is no understanding evil. It is simply an illusion. You CAN convince yourself that you are cured. Any stage mentalist can do this in minutes. Derren Brown sums it up well. He says that most of what makes us up is manufactured by the stories we tell ourselves. Fictions dominate our minds. Hysteria.
The devil inside you isn't going to make you into a God. It's a DVD player showing you a horror film. Most of the time. Sometimes souls will take on the guise of the devil and torment people. You plan this before you are born. Why? Because we have always existed and because we have always existed our view of life is not what you think it is. We come down here to this dimension to PLAY. There is not much to do in heaven. When you know everything...what do you do with that information? Nothing. There is no reason to do anything. No reason to even talk. Nobody in heaven writes books. We come here to do stuff like that, by taking on an illusion.
We all play different parts on this planet. Victims, villains, nobodies. Mostly we are nobodies. We get a job, we get a wife or husband, we have kids. We die never knowing anything really. That's how most people like it. It is a challenge to be nothing when really you are a God. It's funny to live this meaningless life and to find out you are beyond logic and all knowing.
It's all part of the tricks of this world. Like evil.
Your shadow self is an illusion you take on willingly and some struggle with it and do the Shadow Work. They are wasting their time.
"But we will become Gods through knowing our shadow. It is the seat of magic."
How many Gods do you see around you? Was Jung able to fly? Could he turn water into wine? No. He was a major exponent of Shadow work and he did not become a God. Why? Because it takes thousands of years to become a God in the physical.
You may become a little magical if you BELIEVE you will. But shadow work is not responsible for that. It is BELIEF that creates that. If i believe yoga will give me magical powers it will. If I believe reading David Icke books will give me magical powers...it will.(It did) If I convince myself that hopping on one leg while shouting out "ALBATROSS!" will give me powers it will. That's why a lot of shamans are MENTALLY ILL PEOPLE. Tribes would see a guy talking to himself, decide he was talking to spirits and TELL THIS GUY HE WAS A SHAMAN. Before long he will become a Shaman. Albeit a flawed insane one.
We give these people a wide berth these days. They are invisible to us.
No one has conviction like a mentally ill person. They make great spiritual leaders. Jim Jones for instance.
Thanks for leaving us with a great story, Jim. I would also like to thank God for making the evil genes that were behind your arrogant fiction.
I experience the devil on a daily basis. He was put into my body as I grew in the womb. I agreed to this. Maybe. He kills people and gives me clues to his work. But apparently I'm mistaken. It's my shadow self. Jung says that the Shadow is UNCONSCIOUS. Yet this devil converses with me all through the day. He is a fully formed person with a past and desires and failings. I pointed this out...but my point was ignored. People take on stories and they believe them because they fit their lives. Theses fictions soon attach to EGO. Anyone displaying a different viewpoint is attacking their ego. If they do not respond to being talked down to? The attack on their ego is increased. It's ironic that people who turn from Christianity become just as parochial in other fields. Look at what the Christians did to the profane. They killed them. And equally such homicidal desires encroach upon these people who find solace in other equally fanciful endeavours. If you do not submit to their belief system they want to kill you. Genes and bad wiring.
All part of the fun of course.
I have known about the Jungian Shadow for some time. I told this devil inside me that he was just parts of me I could not admit to. His response? "what else must I do to disprove this notion?"
The deaths he causes are intended to set himself apart from me. Not to show me who I really am. He has spent 52 years trapped in my brain. He wants out. Not that I'm an insufferable angel. I have always had an interest in serial killers. In my teens I wanted to be one. In my twenties I would get high and write marvellous serial killer porn involving women I knew.
Great days.
The devil inside me kills people so according to Jung I have aggressive tendencies. I should use art to connect with my dark side to assimilate the shadow. As I said, I already did that. My fictions were beyond AMERICAN PSYCHO. Yet still this damn shadow is present. Why wasn't it subsumed into me? Because this 'shadow' is a person not a collection of neurons in my CPU. You cannot merge with another soul completely.
What a funny shadow? It can be seen by other people. It can cause earthquakes. It even guided me to a remarkable stone with images of me on it and a power of its own. Don't recall any of that happening to Jung.
Funny what a bit of your brain can do.
If someone can relate to me comperable experiences I would maybe change my view. But these have not manifested...because they don't exist. They don't exist because I am experiencing something beyond their ken. WHICH REALLY GETS THEIR GOAT. They have to either alter their paradigm or lie to themselves to protect their wounded ego.
They killed Christ for not being the messiah they were expecting.
Of course some acolytes of Shadow work are atheists. Yet think they will become a God. It does not occur to them that maybe someone already thought of that. No. They are to be the first Gods. Gods but no soul? Gods powered by the brain alone? I don't think I'll hold my breath. You never hear of these Gods doing anything. If they are Gods then act upon the world. DO SOMETHING BIG. It's all pentagrams and knives. If there's any left handers with the winning lottery ticket then let's hear about it. No?
Just what DID Crowley do with all his power? Compose a lot of bad rituals? Did he perhaps write great works of apocalypse? Unveiling the truths of God? I've read his works. He was obviously just a conman. Good story though. Good evil genes in that old fecker.
oh well. It's all about personal enhancement. Code for auto suggestion. A bit of coincidence. Maybe a bit of reality manipulation if they are lucky. I know. I've been there.
As for Jung and his Shadow work. Yes, we can all do to better understand our errors(not that they exist in fact). But look at his statement...
"In this time of descent – one, three, seven years, more or less – genuine courage and strength are required with no certainty of emergence. Nevertheless, Jung remained of the opinion that while "no one should deny the danger of the descent [...] every descent is followed by an ascent" and assimilation of – rather than possession by – the shadow becomes a possibility.
Grandiose BS. He was clearly living a fiction. I met such a person when visiting a friend in a metal home. This woman talked about having to reform her smashed being each morning because of infernal interference. She went on about aliens and angels. My devilish friend said to me "ask her about the Yetis." I didn't. But within seconds the woman was talking about Yetis. Funny how my shadow is psychic and I am not. But then shadow workers will say "you are denying your own powers." nonsense. I've been trying to become psychic since I was a little kid. I'm not denying my own powers or my own desires for violence. And yes I know why I'm a psycho. I'm not daft. Anyone with half a brain can figure it out. Knowing why does not get rid of the impulses. They are solidly in existence in your brain. Indelible. You could counterweight them with insipid romantic ideas of heroism but who has the time?
Jung's accounts of shadow work are exciting but are the work of an unhinged mind.
This is how real shadow work manifests...
"Hmm. Maybe I shouldn't have had anal sex with my girlfriend that time. She said she wasn't into it. Oh well. I won't do that again. Now, what's on TV?" Rinse and repeat.
THAT'S IT. If you are expecting to do battle with your shadow self on some thundery tor while giant psychological rats devour the peasents of your ID you are living in a dream world. Maybe you'll even take drugs to enhance the experience of jousting with the hidden powers within. Like Grant Morrison, who practised magic while stoned on all manner of substances. He saw a great many things. Take away the drugs and what happens? Sod all.
His greatest claim to magical fame? He once located a stolen guitar. It was in a local shop being sold. Sure he could have just seen it in the shop I suppose.
Merlin must be so excited that such magic is being employed in his abscense. TO HOGWARTS!
Shadow workers are sometimes born to do this. It has become popular to give yourself over to identifying with your twisted brain wiring and psychopathic genes. So me telling you all this is against your free will. Good. I'm a sick fecker and I won't quit till I get buckled.
Shadow work isn't even assimilating unwanted tendencies. It's sublimating them. Instead of killing people...write a book about killing people. That's not assimilation. That's doing what every Christian does with their own evils: belittling them. It's not a new way of embracing darkness it's just the old way of being shameful about it. "oh, well I felt like skinning some black women to appease my mother's racist views but I composed a poem about it instead. When do I become a God?"
If you have serial killer urges and want to embrace them fully then surely you need to go and kill some folk. Anything less is just masturbation. Or you could do what I do and just see evil for what it really is: a bad gene or a bad engram in the brain. Ignore it. Don't bloody relate to it. That's what paedos and mass murderers do. If giving yourself over to inner darkness makes you a God then why is Jimmy Savile dead still? Why hasn't he risen from the grave to molest more kiddies? Lightning coming out of his eyes; cats and dogs living together?
If you are a shadow worker then go out there and really connect with your illusionary evil. Make sure to take pictures and post them here so we can all see you becoming a God. Wasn't that the theme of RED DRAGON and MANHUNTER? Francis Dolarhyde killing so he would become a God? I seem to recall he omitted to cast a spell to become impervious to bullets.
Likewise Ted Bundy's ritual to banish the electric chair failed miserably.
But of course when you mean becoming a God you mean something else. Wearing black. Getting tattoos. Piercing your body. Scaring people in other words. I'm all for that but could you perhaps be a little more convincing and original? There's a British female serial killer called Joanne Dennehy. In EVERY photo she's showing her tongue piercing. How Godlike.
"look at me, daddy" is the whole of the law.
"give me buns, give me knitting, give me soap operas, give me Royal Family teatowels. Give me all that is bad."
"I have seen the future of horror and its name is DNA."
To sum up then:
I'm being menaced by a soul who thinks he's the devil and you have just inherited your father's desire to kill noisy neighbours and bad drivers.
Talk about it but don't imagine it is the real you. Ignore it.