My View Of Demons

[albie]

I am aware that modern day followers of the left hand path, Luciferians and Satanists, do not believe that the devil and his demons are actual entities; but are rather mental/spiritual states that can be accessed by anyone for their personal use. I agree with the philosophy of Luciferianism that complex rituals and incantations are not necessary to manipulate the world to your will and occult knowledge itself can raise you up to the level of Godhood.

But in my experience demons and even the devil are very real and more than a state of mind, although it is possible to adopt and be influenced by similar dark psychologies. All soul templates are downloadable by anyone who wants to do so; even yours. Sometimes we download these templates by accident and we feel possessed.

The evidence shows that I was demonically possessed before birth.

I'm 52 right now and when I was maybe 35 my mother told me something. When she was pregnant with me she was in bed and saw several 'shadows' stood around her, watching her.

This sparked two memories.

From my youngest days I had a recollection of a dream. In the dream I was stood by a bed watching a woman in the bed. Was this a dream or a memory? I was tall in this episode so it had to be a dream. Now I wonder if it was even my dream or my memory.

Secondly, when I was around 25 I was playing guitar and decided to close my eyes and see what happened when I strummed randomly. I did this and straight away went into a light trance. In this trance I saw three shadows stood behind me, watching me. One was fat, one was tall and one was just average sized.

So when my mother told me of seeing shadows I was quite interested. I have looked into Shadow Beings and they are 99.99% malevolent.

I believe that one or all the shadows my mother saw entered her womb and merged with me.

It's even possible I was one of those shadows.

When I was seven my older sister told my mother that I had bitten a girl at school. I had no memory of this, yet I said, out of nowhere, "I like to bite people, it relaxes me." There were other such events where I said or thought things that were sinister and out of character for someone so young. These thoughts and sayings came from nowhere. As if someone else was issuing them. Someone dark and old.

These incongruous and sinister things vanished for years, until I hit my teenage years. I had always liked horror films, but when I was 16 my interests shifted to real horror; serial killers to be exact. I read a monthly publication on famous Serial Killers and people like Ted Bundy merged with fictional characters like Freddy Krueger. I began to look up to these figures. Not long later I began to develop negative feelings towards people. I cannot blame the films and books totally: stuff had happened let's say. But these modern demons shaped my reactions to these unfortunate events.

In my late teens I began to sense a presence.

One day I saw a green face at the end of my bed. It was the British actor John Thaw.(He was alive at the time btw). Thaw is most famous for playing Inspector Morse.

Years later I read FROM HELL by Alan Moore. In it the Ripper appears before a young Ian Brady(serial killer) in the form of a green face. Brady saw this face and knew it was the face of death. It turns out this was a true story. I had no prior knowledge of this event.

I thought about the green face I had seen. Inspector Morse. Mors is the god of death.

In the ensuing years there were fires and other violent events that I seemed to be making happen. I won't go into detail. This post will be deleted.

As the years went on the presence became more prominent. Now it talks to me all day. It can even move my body sometimes and talk out loud using my voice box. Sometimes more than one voice comes from me. So maybe all those shadows I saw were in me. Some of them seem very odd, just shouting out the same disturbing statements.

This other claims to be The Devil.

Whoever he is he can influence people to do things. Bad things. He has awareness of things before they happen. He has revealed many strange things to me. You wouldn't believe the things I know. I've posted a few of these things on here. But those were mild compared to what I know. He guides me to information. "watch this film next." "look into this next." Every time he is right and I learn more about him and sometimes about me. Frightening things. I am in an almost constant state of anxiety.

So be careful when you choose the left hand path.

 

[Morell]

Your confession here reveals that your life had been a nightmare at some cases and apparently it is living hell right now.

Anyway, your definition of left hand path is wrong. It is not the same thing as satnism and luciferianist. It seems to be true that most satanists and luciferians are atheistic, so not believing in actualy demons and satan, but that is not true for all of them. And Left hand path, that's not about demons, it's about how you see yourself and others. It's uneasy to put down definition, but it is path that concentrates on evolving yourself and focusing on yourself, finding divine within. Right hand path seeks divine outside and serving others, etc.

So trying to scare people from left hand path the way you do is waste of time. People here are wise to not react to you at all. Silence offers wisdom.
... unlike your scare tactic. You live in fear and now you try to teach others to fear.

 

[albie]

Your confession here reveals that your life had been a nightmare at some cases and apparently it is living hell right now.

Anyway, your definition of left hand path is wrong. It is not the same thing as satnism and luciferianist. It seems to be true that most satanists and luciferians are atheistic, so not believing in actualy demons and satan, but that is not true for all of them. And Left hand path, that's not about demons, it's about how you see yourself and others. It's uneasy to put down definition, but it is path that concentrates on evolving yourself and focusing on yourself, finding divine within. Right hand path seeks divine outside and serving others, etc.

So trying to scare people from left hand path the way you do is waste of time. People here are wise to not react to you at all. Silence offers wisdom.
... unlike your scare tactic. You live in fear and now you try to teach others to fear.

Thanks for reading my post.

Scare people? It never occurred to me that I might be doing that. But maybe HE did. I was just expressing caution. I've lived with weirdness and darkness for decades; It has become almost normal. I guess I underestimate how sinister I can be.

My life is hellish? Yeah, but I just bought the CHEERS box set, so I can find some fun in that. Of course HE had something to say about it.

"Sam Malone is the devil in this." he said.

I looked to see if his name was an anagram. I found it makes 'Samael nom'. Samael is considered by some to be analogous with Satan. His name means 'Venom of God'. Venom is a poison. And we say 'what's your poison?' meaning alcohol. Sam serves alcohol.

There are many interpretations of Samael in Judaism:

Samael is known as the 'seducer'. Sam is obsessed with sex.

Samael was also one of the angels who bred with earth women. Horny guy, Sam.

'Samael nom' Nom is french for 'name'. Also mon means 'my' in French.

See how this works? There are clues everywhere, and not just in dusty occult books. The spirits love to leave their mark in popular art.

I have to say, I'm confused by Luciferianism. It seems odd to use a name linked to pride and failing. Lucifer was the name of the planet Venus. It rises in the sky and then falls back to earth, seemingly. In Isaiah it is used as a mocking term for someone who attempts to rise to God's level and more, but falls short. I understand that you use the word to simply convey light and wisdom. But if I were to follow a system called Hitlerianism? And I said 'No. I'm not a fascist, it's a symbolic word.' I don't think people would be too convinced.

And just why DID Jesus claim to be 'the bright and morning star.'? He's basically calling himself the devil, in those days. Maybe he knew better. But then you probably don't believe in Jesus.

You claim to be an atheist. Yet aspire to become a god through Luciferianism. Aren't you kind of saying ' I don't want to exist.' I believe Freud called it the 'Death Drive.'

If you can become a god isn't it conceivable that others have already done so? And maybe they created our reality? To deny this is to hobble your own rise to godhood. Maybe you just want to use magic to get women and money.

Do you believe in the afterlife? I would like to know. And if there is no God then how does magic work? I find magic so easy I hve to watch myself all the time. In case I cause stuff to happen by accident.

Feel free to put me right. I must admit I sense you are angry at me. I guess my account kind of goes against your view of reality. We all know how that can affect people.

Oh, hang on, Norm has just come into the bar...hahahah.

 

[JGVDRG]

Very interesting. I've had a similar experience in my childhood and teenage years, but I can say that I managed to develop and understand a lot of those problems.

modern day followers of the left hand path, Luciferians and Satanists, do not believe that the devil and his demons are actual entities; but are rather mental/spiritual states that can be accessed by anyone for their personal use.

There is a lack of nuance in this perspective and I see many people falling for it. "Actual" entities, mental states and spirituality are interconnected, so we are actually talking about multiple levels of manifestation here, and all of them interacts with each other. Our perception, however, isn't perfect, much less our urge to denominate things rigidly (what makes you think you are actually talking about Demons and the Devil?). Not that all contents of the collective or even personal unconsciousness should be taken as external entities manifesting themselves. There is always a relation between what is mental and what is spiritual...and everything for that matter. Until proven contrary, one cannot interact with anything without the functions of the psyche. Everything you process will pass through the "canvas" of your own mind. You stare the Abyss, it stares you back. It can linger, stir some things inside you, of course, and you will be affected by it. So I would say that Demons are both aspects of you and external entities. You are literally the Highest Deity, you contain everything in a latent state. If you consider them to be parts of you or external deities, it doesn't matter much beyond how efficiently you reach your goals.

I have looked into Shadow Beings and they are 99.99% malevolent.

You've "looked into it"? Not a strong prospect.
If I may be so bold, I'd say you probably should pay more attention to your Shadow Self. It is ALWAYS your adversary, because it is made of everything you repress or hold in the lowest regards, consciously or not. Believe me, being aware of your worse tendencies and accepting your fascination about morbid things falls far short of a true analysis of your Shadow Self. Making amends with it and understanding it deeply, as deep as the bottomless pit can get, is a (perhaps the) fundamental craft to be done in the LHP. And it might just hold the key to solving your constant anxiety problem.
In my experience, this Devil, or even Satan for some, is the totality of my Shadow Self. It is also just a damn name to give to something largely unknown. It reveals very problematic things, mostly about our path and ourselves. It makes us doubt, it tests us, and to be honest, it's not a bad thing to contact this contrarian force. If the Devil laughs, you know you're probably in shit. LOL. If you stand before him seriously, he might just give you the most honest answer. Or give you a could shoulder. Who knows? You can use the most dreadful forces in a useful way for yourself, you just have to be smart, bold and not a frightened chicken. If you don't hold yourself in the highest regards and priority, you won't get much success in anything. Maybe you could become a spiritual beggar, like most choose to be. All in all, the Adversary/Accuser is more straightforward than your guardian Spirits, and easier to analyze, if you're a thinker.

So be careful when you choose the left hand path.

One must be careful always. There is no path without undesired consequences. BTW, I'm not an atheist nor an agnostic. Also I don't think there has to be a correlation between atheism and materialism. It usually has, but it doesn't have to. One could believe in many spirits and not believe in a deity at all. But the major point here is, you don't have to decide between Demons being solely aspects of the self or solely external entities. I don't think magic works that way.

 

[albie]

>There is a lack of nuance in this perspective and I see many people falling for it. "Actual" entities, mental states and spirituality are interconnected, so we are actually talking about multiple levels of manifestation here, and all of them interacts with each other.

I did say that templates of demons etc can be downloaded and I did say that demons are also real so I kind of said what you imparted.

>what makes you think you are actually talking about Demons and the Devil?

I saw one in a dream, at the same time my sister did, and it didn't look human. It had a truly evil face and a bald swollen head.(actually, go and read Clive Barker's novel THE GREAT AND SECRET SHOW. There's a guy in that who looks a lot like the thing I saw. They call him Randolph Jaffe but he comes into contact with a substance that evolves him into a spiritman called The Jaff). It may have been a mere manipulated image, true. But then obversely, any person you see in a dream or reality could be a demon. It is more their personalities. Evil. A favourite trick is to wait till I'm swallowing food then to suggest with a few words that I will choke on it. True that could apply to people too. But then we have their power. There is evidence that they can cause things to happen as big as earthquakes. I watch GHOST ADVENTURES and such programs and I never encountered a dead person with that ability!

Put all these factors together PLUS the fact that they say they are demons and the devil. You got demons and the devil. If they were once people, ok, but what really constitutes a demon or devil? If it quacks...

Then there's the evidence I've garnered through years of synchronicity and research. But that would take a book's worth of explaining.

>Until proven contrary, one cannot interact with anything without the functions of the psyche.

Not sure about that. I don't think you need to use your psyche when something is right there in front of you.



Me: I have looked into Shadow Beings and they are 99.99% malevolent.

> You've "looked into it"? Not a strong prospect.

What do you expect me to do? Rise up to the gate of God's heaven and ask him? I read books on the subject of people who saw shadow beings. They are on the whole sinister..in those books. There are no books about nice shadow beings. Ergo...

>If I may be so bold, I'd say you probably should pay more attention to your Shadow Self.

I think you are conflating two phenomena. I am talking about actual shadows in the shape of people that were seen with the eyes. It was mother who saw them first, stood around her bed when she was pregnant with me. I saw them later, admittedly in a light trance. We are talking about spirits...ghosts. Other than me.

The shadow self is not the same. That is part of you that you have segregated. The beings inside of me can come and go. They get inside other people and make them do bad things to other people. We are not talking about my secret desire to dress up in women's clothing. These beings existed before I was born. There is evidence, that they have revealed to me, that they were in the killer of five prostitutes in Whitechapel in 1888. You may have heard of it. There is even better evidence that they were in the mind of the Zodiac Killer when he committed his crimes in the 60's and 70's. There is evidence that they used him to post cards and letters that gave clues to my life and identity AT THE TIME I WAS ALIVE. I could go on.

I'm no expert on the shadow self but I've yet to hear of that quasi-psychological bogeyman being able to do that. Enlighten me if I'm wrong.

I'm in deep trouble here. I am very liberal. I know all about my dark side and have since I was a teenager. I'm 52 now. I'm fully aware that I have a sick side who would eat dog shit or kill a million people for laughs. This is not my shadow self. These entities want me because I have a naturally potent soul. They told me so. They want to use my energy to do bad things to people and they have. Dozens so far. Maybe even hundreds. I understand this seems like delusions of grandeur to most people on here. People who have maybe used magic to gain sex or win a hundred quid on the lottery.

>Believe me, being aware of your worse tendencies and accepting your fascination about morbid things falls far short of a true analysis of your Shadow Self.

I have used magic to harm people. That's beyond being simply aware or fascinated. I don't need to 'analyse' anything. I AM my shadow self and have been for 30 years. Yet still the beings use my energy to destroy people's lives. I would like to give you a full account of these events they caused but this forum would probably not stand for it. Where would? 4chan? Some INCEL message board? Sadly I use the computers at the library and such sites are blocked.

Let me just say something. You seem to think you know stuff. You don't know stuff. You read stuff. You may have seen stuff. That doesn't give you the right to have a belief SYSTEM which you can use to gauge what other people have experienced. And yeah, you could level that same accusation at me. But I'm not the one telling you what is really happening to you. I'm just telling you what happened to me. Have an opinion if you want. But keep it to yourself. Write a blog about how wrong I am. Don't post a link.

Tell me about YOUR experience. DON'T tell me about MY experience like you were there and know better.

>Making amends with it and understanding it deeply, as deep as the bottomless pit can get, is a (perhaps the) fundamental craft to be done in the LHP. And it might just hold the key to solving your constant anxiety problem.

Make amends? I have. Anxiety? That is caused by the actions of the beings. They threaten me. And yes I know full well that I have a part of me that hates myself and wants to die. I tried to kill myself twice in my younger days. I'm at peace with that. I'm beyond it. This is something else. OUTSIDE OF ME. I'm sure Ghandi was at peace with his dark self but still probably shat his loin cloth if someone threatened him. Even Christ shat himself.

Not that you can trust any of that, or anything you say. YOUR experience is NOT the realisation of THE RULES OF SPIRITUALITY.

>as deep as the bottomless pit can get,

If it is BOTTOMLESS then you never truly get anywhere. SO WHY BOTHER?

>In my experience, this Devil, or even Satan for some, is the totality of my Shadow Self.

NOT my experience. Has your shadow self drowned over a hundred people in Texas recently? Has it crashed planes and set fire to buildings? If not then I wonder why my shadow self is so much more powerful than yours.

Has your shadow even done anything? or has it just sort of whispered to you that you'd like to do certain things? Does your shadow self take control of your body and speak and laugh through it? Mine does. He seems to find me very funny. And if it is just my dark side then why has my dark side got a light side too? Like a fully grown person? An individual with all the emotions and dreams of a PERSON? If my shadow self is just the stuff I hate about myself then why does he have some positive aspects? I don't hate my positive aspects.

NOT A SHADOW SELF. A REAL ENTITY WITH A HISTORY THAT STRETCHES BACK THOUSANDS OF YEARS. TOTALLY INDEPENDANT OF ME AND NOT ME.

Sorry if this frightens you. I know people like to downgrade the devil out of fear. Maybe they just can't hack the notion of someone being so negative AND intelligent. Yeah. Intelligent. He knows stuff I don't know. He sees the title of a film, say, and says "You already saw it. It was crap." And he's right. He notices stuff I don't. He's not a bundle of emotions at the back of my mind I cannot deal with. He's a living entity. Fully formed. Able to discourse on things. He's even suggesting things to say and not to say in this post. Quite often he warns me not to post certain things because it may get me banned from a forum. Sound like a shadow self? Surely my shadow self wouldn't care or even be able to care if I were banned. If my shadow self is 'always the enemy' as you have said, then it would relish me being banned from forums. No. He wants to be careful. Such a considerate shadow self!

If you think I am being fanciful and misreading my experience then I can say the same of you. Maybe what you think is a shadow self is actually a demon. Being more sly and less open then mine is. Pretending to be part of you that you cannot deal with. Pretending so it can feed off your energy and use it to harm you and others.

Mine tells me when it harms people. Yours does not. Can you begin to even consider this new position?

Have you looked into it?

To quote yourself.

> You've "looked into it"? Not a strong prospect.

 

[AbammonTheGreat]

I whole heartedly agree with your sentiment in the reality of these things. It seems extremely common-place amongst the entry levels to perpetuate this idea that demons and the infernal entities are a partition of psyche or the personal mind which is an incredibly dangerous position to adopt. Real first-hand experience with the ability these things have to physically manifest and wreak havoc on the individual as a completely independent and external entity would bring any sane person to the conclusion that they should be approached with a lot more caution than is currently practiced amongst the demonolater camps. The psychological or mentalist perspective on entities is so often a self-rationalization used to insulate the practitioner from having to confront an incredibly mind-breaking reality to the spiritual realm and this is why we see modern infernal practice so often send people straight towards a path of self destruction. It is important to remember that demons and infernal entities are liars and so will often reinforce the practitioners lie to themselves that they are only partitions of a psychological mind.

However, I also agree with Morell's statement in that these types of people may identify as the Left Hand Path but they are not a good representation of it. There is a practical utility to the left-hand path, it can be engaged in without ever swearing alliance to Satan or worshiping a demon as a god. Most adept or skilled LHP practice something more along the lines of anti-nomianism and exploration of sitra achra. But there is a really high mystery veiled within the confrontation a magician faces when they do engage in demon summoning and the exploration of the dark, chaotic, and infernal worlds. These creatures and hierarchies are a part of the creation just as us, and they do serve a purpose for our paths towards actualization. I think the best Abrahamic examples of this are in the Book of Job, Jesus' notorious temptation in the desert, and the story of St. Anthony the Great. In summoning the demon we must ask ourselves not what we can get from the demon, but what confronting it means for our journey.

 

[Asteriskos]

I whole heartedly agree with your sentiment in the reality of these things. It seems extremely common-place amongst the entry levels to perpetuate this idea that demons and the infernal entities are a partition of psyche or the personal mind which is an incredibly dangerous position to adopt. Real first-hand experience with the ability these things have to physically manifest and wreak havoc on the individual as a completely independent and external entity would bring any sane person to the conclusion that they should be approached with a lot more caution than is currently practiced amongst the demonolater camps. The psychological or mentalist perspective on entities is so often a self-rationalization used to insulate the practitioner from having to confront an incredibly mind-breaking reality to the spiritual realm and this is why we see modern infernal practice so often send people straight towards a path of self destruction. It is important to remember that demons and infernal entities are liars and so will often reinforce the practitioners lie to themselves that they are only partitions of a psychological mind.

However, I also agree with Morell's statement in that these types of people may identify as the Left Hand Path but they are not a good representation of it. There is a practical utility to the left-hand path, it can be engaged in without ever swearing alliance to Satan or worshiping a demon as a god. Most adept or skilled LHP practice something more along the lines of anti-nomianism and exploration of sitra achra. But there is a really high mystery veiled within the confrontation a magician faces when they do engage in demon summoning and the exploration of the dark, chaotic, and infernal worlds. These creatures and hierarchies are a part of the creation just as us, and they do serve a purpose for our paths towards actualization. I think the best Abrahamic examples of this are in the Book of Job, Jesus' notorious temptation in the desert, and the story of St. Anthony the Great. In summoning the demon we must ask ourselves not what we can get from the demon, but what confronting it means for our journey.

Well Said!

 

[Gigiet]

I am aware that modern day followers of the left hand path, Luciferians and Satanists, do not believe that the devil and his demons are actual entities; but are rather mental/spiritual states that can be accessed by anyone for their personal use. I agree with the philosophy of Luciferianism that complex rituals and incantations are not necessary to manipulate the world to your will and occult knowledge itself can raise you up to the level of Godhood.

But in my experience demons and even the devil are very real and more than a state of mind, although it is possible to adopt and be influenced by similar dark psychologies. All soul templates are downloadable by anyone who wants to do so; even yours. Sometimes we download these templates by accident and we feel possessed.

The evidence shows that I was demonically possessed before birth.

I'm 52 right now and when I was maybe 35 my mother told me something. When she was pregnant with me she was in bed and saw several 'shadows' stood around her, watching her.

This sparked two memories.

From my youngest days I had a recollection of a dream. In the dream I was stood by a bed watching a woman in the bed. Was this a dream or a memory? I was tall in this episode so it had to be a dream. Now I wonder if it was even my dream or my memory.

Secondly, when I was around 25 I was playing guitar and decided to close my eyes and see what happened when I strummed randomly. I did this and straight away went into a light trance. In this trance I saw three shadows stood behind me, watching me. One was fat, one was tall and one was just average sized.

So when my mother told me of seeing shadows I was quite interested. I have looked into Shadow Beings and they are 99.99% malevolent.

I believe that one or all the shadows my mother saw entered her womb and merged with me.

It's even possible I was one of those shadows.

When I was seven my older sister told my mother that I had bitten a girl at school. I had no memory of this, yet I said, out of nowhere, "I like to bite people, it relaxes me." There were other such events where I said or thought things that were sinister and out of character for someone so young. These thoughts and sayings came from nowhere. As if someone else was issuing them. Someone dark and old.

These incongruous and sinister things vanished for years, until I hit my teenage years. I had always liked horror films, but when I was 16 my interests shifted to real horror; serial killers to be exact. I read a monthly publication on famous Serial Killers and people like Ted Bundy merged with fictional characters like Freddy Krueger. I began to look up to these figures. Not long later I began to develop negative feelings towards people. I cannot blame the films and books totally: stuff had happened let's say. But these modern demons shaped my reactions to these unfortunate events.

In my late teens I began to sense a presence.

Un día vi una cara verde al pie de mi cama. Era el actor británico John Thaw (vivía en aquel entonces, por cierto). Thaw es famoso por interpretar al inspector Morse.

Años después leí "DESDE EL INFIERNO" de Alan Moore. En él, el Destripador se aparece ante un joven Ian Brady (asesino en serie) con la forma de un rostro verde. Brady vio este rostro y supo que era el rostro de la muerte. Resultó ser una historia real. Yo no tenía conocimiento previo de este suceso.

Pensé en la cara verde que había visto. Inspector Morse. Morse es el dios de la muerte.

En los años siguientes hubo incendios y otros sucesos violentos que, al parecer, yo mismo provoqué. No entraré en detalles. Esta publicación será eliminada.

Con el paso de los años, su presencia se hizo más evidente. Ahora me habla todo el día. Incluso puede moverme el cuerpo a veces y hablar en voz alta usando mi laringe. A veces, más de una voz sale de mí. Así que tal vez todas esas sombras que vi estaban dentro de mí. Algunas me parecen muy extrañas, simplemente gritando las mismas frases inquietantes.

Este otro afirma ser El Diablo.

Sea quien sea, puede influir en la gente para que haga cosas. Cosas malas. Sabe de las cosas antes de que sucedan. Me ha revelado muchas cosas extrañas. No creerías lo que sé. He publicado algunas aquí, pero eran leves comparadas con lo que sé. Me guía hacia la información. "Mira esta película a continuación". "Investiga esto a continuación". Cada vez acierta y aprendo más sobre él y, a veces, sobre mí. Cosas aterradoras. Estoy en un estado de ansiedad casi constante.

Así que ten cuidado cuando elijas el camino de la izquierda.

Hola Albie, por lo general a los que tenemos mucho de escorpio es como que nos fascina lo oscuro, y somos mas permeables y disponibles para tomar y asentir a esos temas en nuestra vida. soy triple escorpio. De niña, estaba enamorada de Barbanas collins ( el personaje vampiro de una serie de tv) y queria morder todos los cuellos. a medida de que creci me hice cargo de esa fascinacion, en la adolescencia conoci a Eliphas Levi, papus y a los gnosticos entre otros, deje de ver sombras a mi alrededor para hacerme cargo de lo mio. Los que hacen terapias de vidas pasadas tienen muy bien catalogadas a las entidades que se nos adhieren. Estoy convencida de que existen tanto la oscuridad como la luz y sus jerarquias pero en el astral lunar que es el que tenemos mas cerca quedan muchas almas perdidas. que claramente pueden ser utilizadas por quienes saben. pero tambien estan los que las liberan de esa manera vuelves a ser dueña unica de tu cuerpo y tu vida. lo que te lleva a crecer porque ya no hay a quien hecharle la culpa. Igualmente creo que uno atrae lo que vibra. por eso mismo hay que conocer la sombra de uno mismo, lo que no ves de ti mismo.

 

[Asteriskos]

Hola Albie, por lo general a los que tenemos mucho de escorpio es como que nos fascina lo oscuro, y somos mas permeables y disponibles para tomar y asentir a esos temas en nuestra vida. soy triple escorpio. De niña, estaba enamorada de Barbanas collins ( el personaje vampiro de una serie de tv) y queria morder todos los cuellos. a medida de que creci me hice cargo de esa fascinacion, en la adolescencia conoci a Eliphas Levi, papus y a los gnosticos entre otros, deje de ver sombras a mi alrededor para hacerme cargo de lo mio. Los que hacen terapias de vidas pasadas tienen muy bien catalogadas a las entidades que se nos adhieren. Estoy convencida de que existen tanto la oscuridad como la luz y sus jerarquias pero en el astral lunar que es el que tenemos mas cerca quedan muchas almas perdidas. que claramente pueden ser utilizadas por quienes saben. pero tambien estan los que las liberan de esa manera vuelves a ser dueña unica de tu cuerpo y tu vida. lo que te lleva a crecer porque ya no hay a quien hecharle la culpa. Igualmente creo que uno atrae lo que vibra. por eso mismo hay que conocer la sombra de uno mismo, lo que no ves de ti mismo.

Please post in English!

 

[lumineth Realm Lord]

I am aware that modern day followers of the left hand path, Luciferians and Satanists, do not believe that the devil and his demons are actual entities; but are rather mental/spiritual states that can be accessed by anyone for their personal use. I agree with the philosophy of Luciferianism that complex rituals and incantations are not necessary to manipulate the world to your will and occult knowledge itself can raise you up to the level of Godhood.

But in my experience demons and even the devil are very real and more than a state of mind, although it is possible to adopt and be influenced by similar dark psychologies. All soul templates are downloadable by anyone who wants to do so; even yours. Sometimes we download these templates by accident and we feel possessed.

The evidence shows that I was demonically possessed before birth.

I'm 52 right now and when I was maybe 35 my mother told me something. When she was pregnant with me she was in bed and saw several 'shadows' stood around her, watching her.

This sparked two memories.

From my youngest days I had a recollection of a dream. In the dream I was stood by a bed watching a woman in the bed. Was this a dream or a memory? I was tall in this episode so it had to be a dream. Now I wonder if it was even my dream or my memory.

Secondly, when I was around 25 I was playing guitar and decided to close my eyes and see what happened when I strummed randomly. I did this and straight away went into a light trance. In this trance I saw three shadows stood behind me, watching me. One was fat, one was tall and one was just average sized.

So when my mother told me of seeing shadows I was quite interested. I have looked into Shadow Beings and they are 99.99% malevolent.

I believe that one or all the shadows my mother saw entered her womb and merged with me.

It's even possible I was one of those shadows.

When I was seven my older sister told my mother that I had bitten a girl at school. I had no memory of this, yet I said, out of nowhere, "I like to bite people, it relaxes me." There were other such events where I said or thought things that were sinister and out of character for someone so young. These thoughts and sayings came from nowhere. As if someone else was issuing them. Someone dark and old.

These incongruous and sinister things vanished for years, until I hit my teenage years. I had always liked horror films, but when I was 16 my interests shifted to real horror; serial killers to be exact. I read a monthly publication on famous Serial Killers and people like Ted Bundy merged with fictional characters like Freddy Krueger. I began to look up to these figures. Not long later I began to develop negative feelings towards people. I cannot blame the films and books totally: stuff had happened let's say. But these modern demons shaped my reactions to these unfortunate events.

In my late teens I began to sense a presence.

One day I saw a green face at the end of my bed. It was the British actor John Thaw.(He was alive at the time btw). Thaw is most famous for playing Inspector Morse.

Years later I read FROM HELL by Alan Moore. In it the Ripper appears before a young Ian Brady(serial killer) in the form of a green face. Brady saw this face and knew it was the face of death. It turns out this was a true story. I had no prior knowledge of this event.

I thought about the green face I had seen. Inspector Morse. Mors is the god of death.

In the ensuing years there were fires and other violent events that I seemed to be making happen. I won't go into detail. This post will be deleted.

As the years went on the presence became more prominent. Now it talks to me all day. It can even move my body sometimes and talk out loud using my voice box. Sometimes more than one voice comes from me. So maybe all those shadows I saw were in me. Some of them seem very odd, just shouting out the same disturbing statements.

This other claims to be The Devil.

Whoever he is he can influence people to do things. Bad things. He has awareness of things before they happen. He has revealed many strange things to me. You wouldn't believe the things I know. I've posted a few of these things on here. But those were mild compared to what I know. He guides me to information. "watch this film next." "look into this next." Every time he is right and I learn more about him and sometimes about me. Frightening things. I am in an almost constant state of anxiety.

So be careful when you choose the left hand path.

Personally, I think that the world is too complex and contradictory to fit into the Christian dichotomy. So, when it comes to what they see as evil, I think it's more so an exaggerated response to something that contradicts what they believe. I mean, they seem to be more concerned over small and irrelevant issues than big consequential ones.

I was in a private school in my teen years. The place was very toxic. Lots of bullying. Barely under control. Still dealing with trauma. The school was headed by a convent of nuns who were more concerned over what the girls were wearing, and what games we guys were playing. They barely addressed the bullying, fighting, and stealing. God forbid one gets to express or entertain themselves, especially in an environment where they can't feel safe.

So, frankly, I don't believe in Satan. Closest I'm willing to believe in is Moloch, who I don't talk to. When it comes to Lucifer, I believe he is actually Samyaza from the book of Enoch, and Samyaza is Samael. Who i do, have, and will talk to again.

I consider the concept of the devil to be immature. I mean, being so proud to want to usurp your own father? That's what a child would do. And Id expect an angel to be more enlightened. Iblis rebelling because he was told to bow before man? Daddy issues. Human sin being blamed on Azazel? Complete lack of accountability on the part of the tribe. If my local dojo teaches me some self defense moves, and I use them on my brother because we're arguing and I got mad, that's on me. Not my sensei. Samyaza being a bit horny, possibly as a symptom of a greater desire for agency, and teaching man sacred knowledge? Misguided at worst, but more believable. An ancient god from a warlike nation, demanding the sacrifice of innocence and the innocent in exchange for victory, progress, and societal structure? Sinister, and far more believable than anything else.

As for what a demon is, I've wrestled with this notion for a long time. But what I've come to is that they're not real. Or more specifically that what Christians call demons are more so just regular non-angel spirits. This includes other gods, their servants, nature spirits, or the classic cthonic spirit. I mean, it's really hard to take an entire faith seriously when, through out your life, it's members make mountains out of molehills. So, what they call a demon could just as easily be some forest sprite. But we kinda keep them in this image darkness and evil because we just like that image. Frankly, I think they roll their eyes at us, but comply and give us what we want to see.

As for that idea that spirits aren't real. They're just manifestations of the mind. I don't believe that. I think that they're aligned with some parts of the mind, but aren't those parts themselves. Someone on here said once that demons are spirits aligned with the id, where as angels are aligned with the superego. As in to say that demons tap into our more emotional and instinctual side, while angels tap into our more moral and idealistic side.

I think this is still us trying to assert some false dichotomy because it fits in with our current ideologies. But I do think that it fits the most with them. When I do left hand path meditations, I feel myself drawn to 80s heavy metal and 2000s dirty South/Crunk rap. As if to say they respond more to that type of thing.

As for angels, I'm of the strict opinion that they specifically serve the Abrahamic God.

 

[Morell]

Personally, I think that the world is too complex and contradictory to fit into the Christian dichotomy. So, when it comes to what they see as evil, I think it's more so an exaggerated response to something that contradicts what they believe. I mean, they seem to be more concerned over small and irrelevant issues than big consequential ones.

I was in a private school in my teen years. The place was very toxic. Lots of bullying. Barely under control. Still dealing with trauma. The school was headed by a convent of nuns who were more concerned over what the girls were wearing, and what games we guys were playing. They barely addressed the bullying, fighting, and stealing. God forbid one gets to express or entertain themselves, especially in an environment where they can't feel safe.

So, frankly, I don't believe in Satan. Closest I'm willing to believe in is Moloch, who I don't talk to. When it comes to Lucifer, I believe he is actually Samyaza from the book of Enoch, and Samyaza is Samael. Who i do, have, and will talk to again.

I consider the concept of the devil to be immature. I mean, being so proud to want to usurp your own father? That's what a child would do. And Id expect an angel to be more enlightened. Iblis rebelling because he was told to bow before man? Daddy issues. Human sin being blamed on Azazel? Complete lack of accountability on the part of the tribe. If my local dojo teaches me some self defense moves, and I use them on my brother because we're arguing and I got mad, that's on me. Not my sensei. Samyaza being a bit horny, possibly as a symptom of a greater desire for agency, and teaching man sacred knowledge? Misguided at worst, but more believable. An ancient god from a warlike nation, demanding the sacrifice of innocence and the innocent in exchange for victory, progress, and societal structure? Sinister, and far more believable than anything else.

As for what a demon is, I've wrestled with this notion for a long time. But what I've come to is that they're not real. Or more specifically that what Christians call demons are more so just regular non-angel spirits. This includes other gods, their servants, nature spirits, or the classic cthonic spirit. I mean, it's really hard to take an entire faith seriously when, through out your life, it's members make mountains out of molehills. So, what they call a demon could just as easily be some forest sprite. But we kinda keep them in this image darkness and evil because we just like that image. Frankly, I think they roll their eyes at us, but comply and give us what we want to see.

As for that idea that spirits aren't real. They're just manifestations of the mind. I don't believe that. I think that they're aligned with some parts of the mind, but aren't those parts themselves. Someone on here said once that demons are spirits aligned with the id, where as angels are aligned with the superego. As in to say that demons tap into our more emotional and instinctual side, while angels tap into our more moral and idealistic side.

I think this is still us trying to assert some false dichotomy because it fits in with our current ideologies. But I do think that it fits the most with them. When I do left hand path meditations, I feel myself drawn to 80s heavy metal and 2000s dirty South/Crunk rap. As if to say they respond more to that type of thing.

As for angels, I'm of the strict opinion that they specifically serve the Abrahamic God.

You got some really god stuff written here. I don't agree on everything, but it is well based anyway.

I agree that when you hurt animals and anger their guide spirits, it won't just get solved when you change religion. That's in fact cowardice, refusing to accept responsibility. It's sad because the solution to such a problem as angry spirits always has a solution. You hurt someone, make up for it, show that you acknowledge your error and do your best to change yourself for the better. You did hurt animals, well, then give some money tot he animal shelters, give some small food to the pigeons, save that drowing wasp in your drink... and of course apologize.
It really seems to be real human error that we do not like to humble ourselves to others, humans, spirit or animals, I surely should apologize more and to more beings than I do.

 

[JGVDRG]

Tell me about YOUR experience. DON'T tell me about MY experience like you were there and know better.

Let me just say something. You seem to think you know stuff. You don't know stuff. You read stuff. You may have seen stuff. That doesn't give you the right to have a belief SYSTEM which you can use to gauge what other people have experienced. And yeah, you could level that same accusation at me. But I'm not the one telling you what is really happening to you. I'm just telling you what happened to me. Have an opinion if you want. But keep it to yourself. Write a blog about how wrong I am. Don't post a link.

Sent you a private message. No point in derailing the thread or getting publicly impolite.

 

[Sabbatius]

And just why DID Jesus claim to be 'the bright and morning star.'? He's basically calling himself the devil, in those days. Maybe he knew better. But then you probably don't believe in Jesus.

"The Bright and Morning Star" is a title, actually. It is consistently representative of Kingship and Rulership in Middle Eastern and Northeastern African societies from roughly 6th Century bce to about 3rd Century ce. It is believed to originate in the Khemet line with the statement of being "The Morning and Evening Star" going as far back as 3rd Millenia bce in tomb writ and temple documents, eventually influencing other connected cultures surrounding Khem.