Olympic Spirits

[Zzyzxd]

Hi,

I just started working with Bethor and Hagith and I am curious to hear the experiences everyone has had working with the different Olympic spirits.

 

[Akairyuu]

I've been working with all of the spirits in the Arbatel since last Wednesday.

For me Bethor was regal, yet quiet with a kind, benevolent aura.

Hagith to me was kind of what you'd expect from Spirit of Venus with a kind gentleness.

Aratron was quiet with a to-the-point discipline, but not unkind; an academic, business-like air; I had success with Aratron before who helped me work towards a 1st class honours degree.

Och was light and high vibrational; years ago he helped diagnose my mum's broken leg when I asked Och to reveal the real reason for her leg pain; almost a week later the hospital phoned to reveal they missed a break through her femur. Och recently sent me a dream highlighting my pitfall in job searching about lowballing myself in salary questions.

Phul was amazing. Very light energy, vibrant yet gentle, but strong, potent energy. Phul, along with Ophiel, the morning after the Ritual helped me avoid a docusign scam.

Phaleg wasn't heavy, fiery or aggressive as I was expecting from Mars. I sensed a General/leader type energy bit a kind encouraging one. It might be that I practice a sword martial art myself that I aligned with him. He helped me along with Ophiel get the drive and energy to start learning coding in my sparetime again. My own sensei was happy with how I performed, and I felt more incontrovertible and stable.

These are just my experiences, though, you might have different experiences

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*incontrovertible = in control I didn't notice the autocorrect until the edit 5 minute window passed

 

[L’chaimGoldberg]

I've been working with all of the spirits in the Arbatel since last Wednesday.

For me Bethor was regal, yet quiet with a kind, benevolent aura.

Hagith to me was kind of what you'd expect from Spirit of Venus with a kind gentleness.

Aratron was quiet with a to-the-point discipline, but not unkind; an academic, business-like air; I had success with Aratron before who helped me work towards a 1st class honours degree.

Och was light and high vibrational; years ago he helped diagnose my mum's broken leg when I asked Och to reveal the real reason for her leg pain; almost a week later the hospital phoned to reveal they missed a break through her femur. Och recently sent me a dream highlighting my pitfall in job searching about lowballing myself in salary questions.

Phul was amazing. Very light energy, vibrant yet gentle, but strong, potent energy. Phul, along with Ophiel, the morning after the Ritual helped me avoid a docusign scam.

Phaleg wasn't heavy, fiery or aggressive as I was expecting from Mars. I sensed a General/leader type energy bit a kind encouraging one. It might be that I practice a sword martial art myself that I aligned with him. He helped me along with Ophiel get the drive and energy to start learning coding in my sparetime again. My own sensei was happy with how I performed, and I felt more incontrovertible and stable.

These are just my experiences, though, you might have different experiences

Post automatically merged: Friday at 1:34 PM

*incontrovertible = in control I didn't notice the autocorrect until the edit 5 minute window passed

I’ve read a lot of people having generally positive, mild yet effective experiences with the Olympic Spirits, they seem to be much more approachable and agreeable, if that’s the word, than some other spirits can be. I came across some Gnostics several years ago that told me the Olympic spirits are “”archons”” to trap /enslave humanity. Pfff.
I’m super interested in planetary talismans, unfortunately I saw several months after it had passed that we wouldn’t have the time for making a Jupiter talisman (wealth) for like another 12 years, oh boy.
I’ve actually thought about signing up for an astrology course just so I could work my own progressions and time my own planetary rituals.

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Hi,

I just started working with Bethor and Hagith and I am curious to hear the experiences everyone has had working with the different Olympic spirits.

My experience with them has just been with the arbatel, have you found any good materials for interacting with them? I came across a guy on YouTube who combines hoodoo with the Olympic spirits, it was super fascinating. He will, for example, write a petition then place it under a glass candle with for example a geomantic symbol or Olympic spirits sigil, or then he draws with a chalk marker on a ceramic plate or piece of ceramic tile for his workspace. Uses astrological oils, hoodoo condition oils, and incenses. It was very thought provoking and has encouraged me to try some different things.

 

[Akairyuu]

I’ve read a lot of people having generally positive, mild yet effective experiences with the Olympic Spirits, they seem to be much more approachable and agreeable, if that’s the word, than some other spirits can be. I came across some Gnostics several years ago that told me the Olympic spirits are “”archons”” to trap /enslave humanity. Pfff.
I’m super interested in planetary talismans, unfortunately I saw several months after it had passed that we wouldn’t have the time for making a Jupiter talisman (wealth) for like another 12 years, oh boy.
I’ve actually thought about signing up for an astrology course just so I could work my own progressions and time my own planetary rituals.

Post automatically merged: Sunday at 4:28 PM

My experience with them has just been with the arbatel, have you found any good materials for interacting with them? I came across a guy on YouTube who combines hoodoo with the Olympic spirits, it was super fascinating. He will, for example, write a petition then place it under a glass candle with for example a geomantic symbol or Olympic spirits sigil, or then he draws with a chalk marker on a ceramic plate or piece of ceramic tile for his workspace. Uses astrological oils, hoodoo condition oils, and incenses. It was very thought provoking and has encouraged me to try some different things.

That's interesting. I've never heard of contacting them outside of the Arbatel. Do you know he experiences them, or how they come across to him?

 

[L’chaimGoldberg]

That's interesting. I've never heard of contacting them outside of the Arbatel. Do you know he experiences them, or how they come

That's interesting. I've never heard of contacting them outside of the Arbatel. Do you know he experiences them, or how they come across to him?

Hey check your DM, I would post a link but there seems to be an issue here with outside links

he’s got some interesting videos, I haven’t seen one where he says how they appear to him, though Amateur Magus, another YouTube channel I follow, has a video about his interactions with them.

 

[DoppelgangerFred]

You could look at Claves Spirituum by David Rankine if you're interested in the Olympic Spirits.

 

[AbammonTheGreat]

I’ve read a lot of people having generally positive, mild yet effective experiences with the Olympic Spirits, they seem to be much more approachable and agreeable, if that’s the word, than some other spirits can be. I came across some Gnostics several years ago that told me the Olympic spirits are “”archons”” to trap /enslave humanity. Pfff.
I’m super interested in planetary talismans, unfortunately I saw several months after it had passed that we wouldn’t have the time for making a Jupiter talisman (wealth) for like another 12 years, oh boy.
I’ve actually thought about signing up for an astrology course just so I could work my own progressions and time my own planetary rituals.

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My experience with them has just been with the arbatel, have you found any good materials for interacting with them? I came across a guy on YouTube who combines hoodoo with the Olympic spirits, it was super fascinating. He will, for example, write a petition then place it under a glass candle with for example a geomantic symbol or Olympic spirits sigil, or then he draws with a chalk marker on a ceramic plate or piece of ceramic tile for his workspace. Uses astrological oils, hoodoo condition oils, and incenses. It was very thought provoking and has encouraged me to try some different things.

Jupiter enters Cancer this week in Sidereal. Sidereal is more accurate if youre operating off a stellar rays theory, which is the prescription of the astral magic grimoires of the mideval period (you need to be facing the stars and ensouling the talisman with their rays as they cast down to earth). Tropical is a projection to keep the seasons in line - its not the actual position of the planets if you were looking at the sky.

 

[L’chaimGoldberg]

Jupiter enters Cancer this week in Sidereal. Sidereal is more accurate if youre operating off a stellar rays theory, which is the prescription of the astral magic grimoires of the mideval period (you need to be facing the stars and ensouling the talisman with their rays as they cast down to earth). Tropical is a projection to keep the seasons in line - its not the actual position of the planets if you were looking at the sky.

Interesting to note! Thanks I remember when I first started looking at those medieval grimoires thinking they were a bunch of illiterate Bedouin gibberish about Hebrew gods and mythology, but as time goes by I’m more and more subscribed to Stephen Skinners theory of them being a continuation of Egyptian and Greek and Byzantine practices

 

[Aurvangar]

I have experience with the Olympic Spirits as part of my practices in planetary magick. At first I was working purely within the traditions/content of the Arbatel proper. I've since opted to call them using the methods outlined in The Master Works of Chaos Magick by Blackthorne, which pares the aphorisms and operations down to something much more concise. Och is the spirit I've worked with most extensively compared to the others, and he has helped me in life-changing ways.

I first met him when I was dealing with a major health issue that several specialists couldn't definitively diagnose. Every doctor I saw only had vague ideas of what may have been wrong, and their treatments ran the gamut from mildly helpful to completely ineffectual.

The evocation was fairly straightforward, conducted on a Sunday within the first hour of the Sun. I performed a banishing and set my correspondences in place ( some sandalwood incense, The Sun tarot card, etc ), then the call while gazing at Och's sigil. This is a summarized version of the ritual as I have it in my journals.

---

"In the names of Shaddai, Adonai, and Elohim, I call upon you Och, Spirit of the Sun."

No response or reaction for several minutes, then a sudden feeling of warmth around my navel. That quickly spread inwards, into my stomach and back, like a heated blanket wrapped around my torso. I took this to be a sure sign of presence and asked my questions.

"I've been suffering with a disease that no doctor understands. It's one step forward and two steps back since it all started. What is happening to me? And if it is within your power, I ask that you heal me."

Perhaps five minutes or so passed. Och's voice slowly filtered into my head, as someone standing across a busy road, then speaking more clearly as they make their way to you.

Och: "...Not plague...Not pestilence...[ Some things I couldn't make out ]...Imbalance."

"What is out of balance?"

Och: "Your flesh [ separates or suppurates? ] and ruptures. I can soothe... [ He quiets, as if considering something ]

"Thank you, I would be immensely grateful for that." It still feels as if he wants to say something more so I decide to sit quietly for a few minutes.

Och: "The flesh consumes itself. You seek redress [ questioning tone, and I had to look up the word 'redress' afterwards ]...Another who heals waits for you. Find them. The sun will [ show, or shine? ].

This where I felt as if we had reached a 'That is all' point. So I thanked Och and closed the ritual.

"Thank you, Och, for your aid and insights. Go in peace and may the solace of the All lay between us."

---

To make a very long story of ups and downs and fickle health insurance bureaucracies very short, roughly 3 weeks later I received a call from the office of the very first doctor I met with. It was his lead nurse, informing me that he had been looking back over my case, nearly four months after the fact, and how he decided to forward it to a colleague for their opinion. Why he didn't think to do that 4 months prior, I'll never know...

This lead to me getting in contact with that doctor. Three appointments, some more specialized tests, and an amended diagnosis, I was treated for two auto-immune diseases that were compounding each-other, after nearly four long years of suffering. I've been in remission for some time now, something I never thought possible, and certainly not without Och's help.

I've continued to work very closely with him for health and wellness since. Though Bethor is also said to "Aid in healing the self," per Blackthorne's notes. I've only called on the latter for the typical sphere of Jupiterian matters ( wealth, growth, and abundance ) with what I now consider good results.

 

[L’chaimGoldberg]

I have experience with the Olympic Spirits as part of my practices in planetary magick. At first I was working purely within the traditions/content of the Arbatel proper. I've since opted to call them using the methods outlined in The Master Works of Chaos Magick by Blackthorne, which pares the aphorisms and operations down to something much more concise. Och is the spirit I've worked with most extensively compared to the others, and he has helped me in life-changing ways.

I first met him when I was dealing with a major health issue that several specialists couldn't definitively diagnose. Every doctor I saw only had vague ideas of what may have been wrong, and their treatments ran the gamut from mildly helpful to completely ineffectual.

The evocation was fairly straightforward, conducted on a Sunday within the first hour of the Sun. I performed a banishing and set my correspondences in place ( some sandalwood incense, The Sun tarot card, etc ), then the call while gazing at Och's sigil. This is a summarized version of the ritual as I have it in my journals.

---

"In the names of Shaddai, Adonai, and Elohim, I call upon you Och, Spirit of the Sun."

No response or reaction for several minutes, then a sudden feeling of warmth around my navel. That quickly spread inwards, into my stomach and back, like a heated blanket wrapped around my torso. I took this to be a sure sign of presence and asked my questions.

"I've been suffering with a disease that no doctor understands. It's one step forward and two steps back since it all started. What is happening to me? And if it is within your power, I ask that you heal me."

Perhaps five minutes or so passed. Och's voice slowly filtered into my head, as someone standing across a busy road, then speaking more clearly as they make their way to you.

Och: "...Not plague...Not pestilence...[ Some things I couldn't make out ]...Imbalance."

"What is out of balance?"

Och: "Your flesh [ separates or suppurates? ] and ruptures. I can soothe... [ He quiets, as if considering something ]

"Thank you, I would be immensely grateful for that." It still feels as if he wants to say something more so I decide to sit quietly for a few minutes.

Och: "The flesh consumes itself. You seek redress [ questioning tone, and I had to look up the word 'redress' afterwards ]...Another who heals waits for you. Find them. The sun will [ show, or shine? ].

This where I felt as if we had reached a 'That is all' point. So I thanked Och and closed the ritual.

"Thank you, Och, for your aid and insights. Go in peace and may the solace of the All lay between us."

---

To make a very long story of ups and downs and fickle health insurance bureaucracies very short, roughly 3 weeks later I received a call from the office of the very first doctor I met with. It was his lead nurse, informing me that he had been looking back over my case, nearly four months after the fact, and how he decided to forward it to a colleague for their opinion. Why he didn't think to do that 4 months prior, I'll never know...

This lead to me getting in contact with that doctor. Three appointments, some more specialized tests, and an amended diagnosis, I was treated for two auto-immune diseases that were compounding each-other, after nearly four long years of suffering. I've been in remission for some time now, something I never thought possible, and certainly not without Och's help.

I've continued to work very closely with him for health and wellness since. Though Bethor is also said to "Aid in healing the self," per Blackthorne's notes. I've only called on the latter for the typical sphere of Jupiterian matters ( wealth, growth, and abundance ) with what I now consider good results.

That sounds really direct and uncomplicated. I have noticed that about the arbatel, it doesn’t have those long drawn out processes like a lot of the other grimoires do. Plus it seems like they’re really tending towards the practical side of things, which seems like it gets a short sell and kinda disparaged as “low magic”, but like your situation, a life altering illness is no joke. These are serious issues we have in our lives that we need help with.

was this your first time experiencing clairaudience with spirits? Or with summoning/invoking/evoking an entity? Did/do you give them offerings, gift for a gift principle?

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I have experience with the Olympic Spirits as part of my practices in planetary magick. At first I was working purely within the traditions/content of the Arbatel proper. I've since opted to call them using the methods outlined in The Master Works of Chaos Magick by Blackthorne, which pares the aphorisms and operations down to something much more concise. Och is the spirit I've worked with most extensively compared to the others, and he has helped me in life-changing ways.

I first met him when I was dealing with a major health issue that several specialists couldn't definitively diagnose. Every doctor I saw only had vague ideas of what may have been wrong, and their treatments ran the gamut from mildly helpful to completely ineffectual.

The evocation was fairly straightforward, conducted on a Sunday within the first hour of the Sun. I performed a banishing and set my correspondences in place ( some sandalwood incense, The Sun tarot card, etc ), then the call while gazing at Och's sigil. This is a summarized version of the ritual as I have it in my journals.

---

"In the names of Shaddai, Adonai, and Elohim, I call upon you Och, Spirit of the Sun."

No response or reaction for several minutes, then a sudden feeling of warmth around my navel. That quickly spread inwards, into my stomach and back, like a heated blanket wrapped around my torso. I took this to be a sure sign of presence and asked my questions.

"I've been suffering with a disease that no doctor understands. It's one step forward and two steps back since it all started. What is happening to me? And if it is within your power, I ask that you heal me."

Perhaps five minutes or so passed. Och's voice slowly filtered into my head, as someone standing across a busy road, then speaking more clearly as they make their way to you.

Och: "...Not plague...Not pestilence...[ Some things I couldn't make out ]...Imbalance."

"What is out of balance?"

Och: "Your flesh [ separates or suppurates? ] and ruptures. I can soothe... [ He quiets, as if considering something ]

"Thank you, I would be immensely grateful for that." It still feels as if he wants to say something more so I decide to sit quietly for a few minutes.

Och: "The flesh consumes itself. You seek redress [ questioning tone, and I had to look up the word 'redress' afterwards ]...Another who heals waits for you. Find them. The sun will [ show, or shine? ].

This where I felt as if we had reached a 'That is all' point. So I thanked Och and closed the ritual.

"Thank you, Och, for your aid and insights. Go in peace and may the solace of the All lay between us."

---

To make a very long story of ups and downs and fickle health insurance bureaucracies very short, roughly 3 weeks later I received a call from the office of the very first doctor I met with. It was his lead nurse, informing me that he had been looking back over my case, nearly four months after the fact, and how he decided to forward it to a colleague for their opinion. Why he didn't think to do that 4 months prior, I'll never know...

This lead to me getting in contact with that doctor. Three appointments, some more specialized tests, and an amended diagnosis, I was treated for two auto-immune diseases that were compounding each-other, after nearly four long years of suffering. I've been in remission for some time now, something I never thought possible, and certainly not without Och's help.

I've continued to work very closely with him for health and wellness since. Though Bethor is also said to "Aid in healing the self," per Blackthorne's notes. I've only called on the latter for the typical sphere of Jupiterian matters ( wealth, growth, and abundance ) with what I now consider good results.

Super awesome post btw, very informative and helpful

 

[AbammonTheGreat]

Interesting to note! Thanks I remember when I first started looking at those medieval grimoires thinking they were a bunch of illiterate Bedouin gibberish about Hebrew gods and mythology, but as time goes by I’m more and more subscribed to Stephen Skinners theory of them being a continuation of Egyptian and Greek and Byzantine practices

The transmission of the Hermetic tradition went from Egypt > Caliphate > Europe via Spain and Byzantium. It never disappeared the Arabs were continuing it and it slowly trickled into Europe during the middle ages before the fall of Toledo and Byzantium opened the flood gates.

 

[Zzyzxd]

I’ve read a lot of people having generally positive, mild yet effective experiences with the Olympic Spirits, they seem to be much more approachable and agreeable, if that’s the word, than some other spirits can be. I came across some Gnostics several years ago that told me the Olympic spirits are “”archons”” to trap /enslave humanity. Pfff.
I’m super interested in planetary talismans, unfortunately I saw several months after it had passed that we wouldn’t have the time for making a Jupiter talisman (wealth) for like another 12 years, oh boy.
I’ve actually thought about signing up for an astrology course just so I could work my own progressions and time my own planetary rituals.

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My experience with them has just been with the arbatel, have you found any good materials for interacting with them? I came across a guy on YouTube who combines hoodoo with the Olympic spirits, it was super fascinating. He will, for example, write a petition then place it under a glass candle with for example a geomantic symbol or Olympic spirits sigil, or then he draws with a chalk marker on a ceramic plate or piece of ceramic tile for his workspace. Uses astrological oils, hoodoo condition oils, and incenses. It was very thought provoking and has encouraged me to try some different things.

I primarily have been using the Arbatel, though I came across a woman on YouTube who had a few rituals with correspondences concerning the Olympic Spirits. Also The Sworn and Secret Grimoire has a little more information, though its similar to Arbatel.

I’ve read a lot of people having generally positive, mild yet effective experiences with the Olympic Spirits, they seem to be much more approachable and agreeable, if that’s the word, than some other spirits can be. I came across some Gnostics several years ago that told me the Olympic spirits are “”archons”” to trap /enslave humanity. Pfff.
I’m super interested in planetary talismans, unfortunately I saw several months after it had passed that we wouldn’t have the time for making a Jupiter talisman (wealth) for like another 12 years, oh boy.
I’ve actually thought about signing up for an astrology course just so I could work my own progressions and time my own planetary rituals.

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My experience with them has just been with the arbatel, have you found any good materials for interacting with them? I came across a guy on YouTube who combines hoodoo with the Olympic spirits, it was super fascinating. He will, for example, write a petition then place it under a glass candle with for example a geomantic symbol or Olympic spirits sigil, or then he draws with a chalk marker on a ceramic plate or piece of ceramic tile for his workspace. Uses astrological oils, hoodoo condition oils, and incenses. It was very thought provoking and has encouraged me to try some different things.

 

[Zzyzxd]

I've only done the 2 Evocation's so far (Bethor on Thursday, & Hagith, Friday, both using their 2nd corresponding planetary hour as I couldn't do the first, adding in crystals and candles). I got an energetic response almost instantly and a sense of being answered on both occasions... I am new to the world of Magick, and this was my first go at connecting with any spirit/entity/angel/demon. Its only early days and I feel confident I was heard, so I am somewhat excited to see how things progress.

 

[Aurvangar]

That sounds really direct and uncomplicated. I have noticed that about the arbatel, it doesn’t have those long drawn out processes like a lot of the other grimoires do. Plus it seems like they’re really tending towards the practical side of things, which seems like it gets a short sell and kinda disparaged as “low magic”, but like your situation, a life altering illness is no joke. These are serious issues we have in our lives that we need help with.

The entire process from calling Och, to conversing with him, and bringing things to a close lasted maybe a half hour at most. It was very on-the-rails and surprisingly quick compared to the usual pace I work. To the point that I was bit taken aback in the wake of it. I don't know whether that was purely because of the streamlined evocation process I was using, or simply 'resonating' more with Och on some level than the other the spirits. Later encounters with Och weren't nearly as precipitous during, so maybe the urgency of my situation was a factor. It's difficult to gauge.

And I've definitely seen that mentality crop up when magick for practicality's sake is brought up. Everyone's expectations for what magick "should" and "should not" be used for may be wildly different from one practitioner to the next, even within the same path/system. So I dispense with the "High" and "Low".

What's more important in my experience with any spirit is understanding their nature, approaching them with respect, and knowing what it is you want/seek/need from them. The Olympic Spirits are just as capable of say, cultivating a magician's faculties to better perceive and interact with the astral, as they are helping you sell a dinette set.

was this your first time experiencing clairaudience with spirits? Or with summoning/invoking/evoking an entity? Did/do you give them offerings, gift for a gift principle?

It was my very first evocation of an Olympic Spirit, but not my first summoning of any sort. I've always had a much easier time hearing rather than seeing spirits in just about every instance I can think of. I'll add to that my visualization skills are incredibly lacklustre. I wish I could see a regal, long-legged owl wearing a golden crown in my mind's eye when I call Stolas. But it's almost always just a soft-spoken voice with an inquisitive lilt.

As for offerings, they aren't mentioned in the Arbatel, only that you should give the Olympic Spirits your heartfelt thanks. Blackthorn lists offerings as an important step in the "Master Works of Chaos Magick" ( for any entity, not just the Olympics ), but notes they can be as simple as your sincere gratitude. I offer both before I end an evocation at the very least. Other times I'll burn a candle with that, of a color to match the planetary correspondence ( Yellow/Gold in Och's case ).

Super awesome post btw, very informative and helpful

That's incredibly kind of you, L'chaim, thank you . I've only ever called them sporadically when I've needed them for something, but someday I'd like to perform a chain of evocations for self-improvement, starting with Och on Sunday and ending with Arathron on Saturday ( A Septimana or 'Seven Mornings' ).

The Olympic Spirits are some of most fascinating beings I've ever interacted with over the years, vastly different from the angels and demons I started with. Getting to know them better is well worth the time and effort.

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I've only done the 2 Evocation's so far (Bethor on Thursday, & Hagith, Friday, both using their 2nd corresponding planetary hour as I couldn't do the first, adding in crystals and candles). I got an energetic response almost instantly and a sense of being answered on both occasions... I am new to the world of Magick, and this was my first go at connecting with any spirit/entity/angel/demon. Its only early days and I feel confident I was heard, so I am somewhat excited to see how things progress.

And I'd say you're right to feel confident. Such a response is a wonderful sign, especially of receptivity to your process. Hold onto those feelings, sensations, and impressions and record them if you can. They can be excellent points of reference for comparison to future evocations.

Also, your timings for Bethor and Hagith were perfectly fine. Catching that very first hour isn't always possible or feasible. In fact, I've successfully called them outside of complete election with some potential benefits from doing so. It's true that power of the planetary rulers are at their purest when the hour aligns. But I've found that utilizing different hours can temper the energies of the day itself to your benefit. Not just with Olympic Spirits, but workings of planetary magick overall.


For example, Ophiel is traditionally summoned within the first hour of Mercury on Wednesday. His domains are the same as Mercury proper, those of communication, intellect, commerce, and celerity. Let's say I intend to evoke him because of issues I'm having at work with my co-workers. Communication between several people on our team has been suffering for many months and I'm confident Ophiel can resolve this.

At the same, one of those coworkers has made it his mission to spread malicious rumors and gossip around the workplace, causing no shortage of arguments. It's a serious problem that exacerbates everything else.

Rather than call upon Arathron to bind the man altogether, obliging another evocation on a different day, I choose to evoke Ophiel in the hour of Saturn instead. Saturn embodies the qualities of limitation and constraint, and the hour imparts those energies on Ophiel's evocation. My intent and needs resonate in such a way that Ophiel can work both angles more effectively per my request; opening the pathways for healthy communication to flourish, and silencing my disruptive co-worker in such a way that he's forced to face the consequences of his actions ( The discipline of Saturn ).


This is only a hypothetical situation, but I've used the principle with success for a few Olympic Spirits now. Arathron in the hour of Jupiter ( Wealth and Abundance ) to help address a family member's long-time gambling addictions. Phul in the hour of Mercury ( Communication ) to encourage someone to open up about how they're feeling to me, and help them express their emotions in a healthier way. Nothing more than a suggestion, and your results may be completely different, but I think it may be worth experimenting with.

 

[Hakon]

Hi,

I just started working with Bethor and Hagith and I am curious to hear the experiences everyone has had working with the different Olympic spirits.

Hi,

I have worked with the Olympic spirits more as planetary intelligences of nature than as spirits to be forced or dominated. For me, the key is understanding the planetary current behind each one.

Bethor, being connected with Jupiter, tends to feel expansive, noble, generous, and stabilizing. His current is very good for matters involving growth, favor, opportunity, prosperity, protection through authority, and opening paths in a dignified way. I usually feel Bethor’s influence as something broad and benevolent, like a current that increases confidence, order, and abundance without needing to be aggressive.

Hagith, connected with Venus, has a very different quality. Her work feels more magnetic, harmonizing, artistic, and attractive. I associate her with beauty, affection, reconciliation, charm, pleasure, refinement, and the softening of difficult situations. Hagith’s current can be subtle, but when it works, it often changes the atmosphere around relationships, aesthetics, social connections, and personal magnetism.

In my view, the Olympic spirits respond better when approached with respect, clarity, and a well-structured ritual intention. I would not treat them as random spirits to “command.” They are better understood as governors or expressions of planetary forces. The more aligned the request is with the nature of the spirit, the cleaner the result tends to be.

With Bethor, I would focus on expansion, prosperity, wisdom, honor, protection, and lawful growth.

With Hagith, I would focus on harmony, beauty, attraction, love, reconciliation, art, and refinement.

My advice is to keep a ritual journal. Record the day, hour, moon phase if you use it, offerings or prayers, the intention, dreams afterward, synchronicities, and concrete results. The Olympic spirits can be subtle at first, but patterns become clearer over time.

Also, do not mix too many forces at once in the beginning. Work with Bethor separately, then Hagith separately, and learn the “signature” of each current before combining them.

 

[Mamo Yuri]

Hi,

I just started working with Bethor and Hagith and I am curious to hear the experiences everyone has had working with the different Olympic spirits.

This is a great discussion prompt for anyone interested in planetary magic.

 

[Taka Mura]

Hi,

I just started working with Bethor and Hagith and I am curious to hear the experiences everyone has had working with the different Olympic spirits.

This is an excellent discussion thread to open up for practical, experiential magic.