[Help] Pentagram Or Hexagram

[Mohammed Salah]

Hi
Franz Bardon`s great work (The Practice of magical evocation) repeatedly assured the practioner to take the biggest notice of his magical career.
In summoning a spirit the practioner must invoke firstfully the special element which unique to the spirit, so the spirit feels comfortable in the physical plane.
EX: A spirit has a watery nature then by water pentagram we invoke the element at first.
If the spirit from Yosed hierarchy (or any other sphira), dose that demand ivoking the energy of Yosed by (Yosed Hexagram)?
If yes, Which one to be treated first? the elemnt pentagram or the sphira hexagram?
If no, could I do the two for more potent results in my evocation or it would be useless?
The Moon pertains to the kingdom of Yosed, also, could we engage the moon hexagram with the above mentioned processes to gain marvelous achivement? then, which one to be done first?
I am prone to decided results with no mistakes

 

[taschr]

Bardon emphasized that the magician could overcome all other influences with the elements, so in this case the water element would be sufficient. Yesod is the moon which belongs to water. If you feel that additional attuning is needed, you would make the room watery first to make the spirit comfortable and then use a planetary hexagram to establish authority and to attune to the spirits specific current, but this is not the way Bardon teaches it. If I recall correctly he would suggest the accumulation of light following the accumulation of water, rather than using hexagrams. I'm a bit fuzzy on that part. Regardless, I have found that with Bardon it is best to work with the more simple approach and to master the subtle energies of the elements, all else is revealed through them.

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Here's his specific wording on this:

“Higher beings and intelligences require a room that is permeated with light.
The light must have the color that corresponds to the being’s planetary analogy.
Beings that are outside our planetary system manifest only in a pure white light.
The magician generates the required color of the planetary light through the power of the imagination.
…And the beings of the Moon appear only in a vibration of silvery light.”

 

[Ziran]

the pentagram is for binding

the hexagram is for pushing away ( nullifying ) or connecting with the infinite

5 is for gevurah
6 is for tiferet, and the 6 dimensions of the material realm, fwd, back, left, right, inner, outer.

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A spirit has a watery nature then by water pentagram we invoke the element at first.

the pentagram is binding them ...

f the spirit from Yosed hierarchy (or any other sphira), dose that demand ivoking the energy of Yosed by (Yosed Hexagram)?

Ir depends on what you are trying to accomplich.

The hexagram, here would be connecting yesod with the other energetic principle, or potentially nullifying the others.

On the other hand, if I were cultivating Yesod, as part of a ritual, it's a "line", not a star of any sort. Yesod is a "foundation", like underneath a house, which is supporting all the others, but completely occluded, and often neglected The best english translation for Yesod, that I use, is "teamwork". Yesod is necessary in order for the "miracle" to manifest. All of it goes thru Yesod >>> Malchus in order to manifest beyond the heart-and-mind's desire.

If yes, Which one to be treated first? the elemnt pentagram or the sphira hexagram?

Is the ritual ascending or descending? What are you trying to accomplish?

Seeking knowledge and communion? Start at malchus, then plot a course to keser.

Seeking a material blessing, something physical manifesting as a result of the ritual or craft? Start at Keser, then plot a course to malchus.

If no, could I do the two for more potent results in my evocation or it would be useless?

I need more information. It's impossible to assist in "usefulness", without knowing the "use".

What are you trying to accomplish? If it's delicate, personal, etc... feel free to send a private message.