Physically spirit evocation

[boom2]

I know saying physical appearance is something that has been debating a while ago in the community, we have John R King and Julio Cesar Ody confirming its possible and others saying spirit can only shows sign but cant show physically to have a real decent conversation without any mirror o skry ball... What is your thoughts and experience? Would like to give it a try

 

[FireBorn]

I’ve had plenty of encounters where I see spirits—not with my physical eyes, but in what some call the mind’s eye or third eye. Use whatever language tracks with you. The experience is absolutely real to me, even if it doesn’t line up with someone else’s idea of what “physical” means.

As for citing names, no offense to John R. King or Julio Cesar Ody, but why does it matter what they say? Are they some kind of ultimate authority on how spirits can or can’t appear? I don’t believe anyone gets to own that seat on the pretend throne of occult knowledge.

Personally, I reject external scaffolding, even the so-called sacred grimoires. Why? Because I want the experience to be raw and pure. Other people’s frameworks are just more lenses layered over my own, and that usually leads to frustration, not clarity. That’s just how it works for me. YMMV.


Try it however you need to. You’ll be fine. But try it. It’s a gas!

 

[Morell]

It is quite possible for you to see a spirit as if it were fully physical - to see it just like any human. But it is little different than you think. It's not that much them appearing fully physically (although that too is possible I guess) and more you developing your senses to be able to detect spirits.

Some people first develop seeing, some hearing, some get both at once I guess. I can only see them and I recon that they are not physical, though I cannot see through them. I guess that hearing is yet to develop for me.

My personal way of developing the senses is through meditation, when I move my focus or consciousness more into my spiritual bodies, thus using their senses which helps the development. At least that is my theory of it.

 

[boom2]

I’ve had plenty of encounters where I see spirits—not with my physical eyes, but in what some call the mind’s eye or third eye. Use whatever language tracks with you. The experience is absolutely real to me, even if it doesn’t line up with someone else’s idea of what “physical” means.

As for citing names, no offense to John R. King or Julio Cesar Ody, but why does it matter what they say? Are they some kind of ultimate authority on how spirits can or can’t appear? I don’t believe anyone gets to own that seat on the pretend throne of occult knowledge.

Personally, I reject external scaffolding, even the so-called sacred grimoires. Why? Because I want the experience to be raw and pure. Other people’s frameworks are just more lenses layered over my own, and that usually leads to frustration, not clarity. That’s just how it works for me. YMMV.


Try it however you need to. You’ll be fine. But try it. It’s a gas!

Thanks for answer.. but its matter because we are talking a method , a way of working with spirit... The subject is not about if your magic works, it's about physical evocation experience

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[Faria]

we have John R King and Julio Cesar Ody confirming its possible

Could you provide a quote from either author stating their belief that the spirits are physically there? I don't mean seeing and hearing, but physical presence, and a direct quote saying that.

As far as I know, both speak of visible and audible experiences of spirits or ghosts, and allow for the possibility of that being a physical experience, but neither insist on that being the case.