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'Quixotic' would be my description from observations. Downvoting music posts , not the worst but it's imaginable that anyone who would do such would make moderator reports over their controversy as a means of impostion. It's a safety da-ance!
It may be helpful to not look at the source of the accusations as coming from monolithic cultures but as subgroups within those countries to begin decoupling from the grand victim complex.
Instead of dopamine withdrawal, focus and recouple to foreign subgroups that strengthen legitimate, secular Polish achievements toward betterment and global community. Haters just get you to waste energy on them and possibly become dependent on them for a victim identity.
Don't let perfect be the enemy of good.
Grew up with quiet many around and they're hard working, hard drinking (joooke) people that are generally standing by their principles- more so than most western peeps that are washed with fabric softener.
Either standing behind their rather strong Catholicism or creating badass black metal.
I'm from a neighboring country that may even surpass the being blamed score, but that has reasons that are not deniable
These days one has to detatch from the big game of politics as much as possible AND make the right choices at the same time.
The poles saved europe in 1683 in vienna, and some still know that. I think the media everywhere- and herd mentality in general- are creating a picture of this country thinks that and so on- it's just a matter of how easy people are manipulated.
I always have to think of this WWI map of europe as caricatures- and can not forget the scene in Mr. Robot where the E-Corp boss has this map hanging in his Office- as a reminder for the US perspective on how easy different parties are played out against each other.
And for insanely high profits, also especially in the Europe case.
I mean how crazy is it that so many different cultures and languages inhabit this 'small' peace of land?
The ones profiting from conflict always knew that the whole EU project was designed to fail fail from the start- there never will be complete consensus with this many parties involved.
Poland's been kicking ass during the last week. Their independent court denying extradition of the Nordstream suspect, and saying they'd enforce grounding Vladimir Poopstain's plane and ship him off to the Hague. That undoubtedly gave the belligerent snivellers something to whine about but they also seem largely made up of the fuck your feelings crowd so they should appreciate being ignored and mocked while owning blame for their misery.
Especially in the contemporary times.
We are blamed for:
WWII
Holocaust
antisemitism
xenophobia
Israeli-Palestinian war even with remarks like Netanyahu is Polish
Being Catholic, even though not all Poles are Catholics, e.g. not me
Russia's aggression towards Poland
By population of Germany, Ukraine, Lithuania etc. that used to hate Poles
Is Poland bound to suffer? What are the mystical implications of it (I know, Polish messianism like Christ of the nations and some Poles were occultists too, like Stanisław Przybyszewski).
Germany carries the architect’s blame for WWII; Poland just gets scapegoated because the battlefield was on its soil. Blame belongs to the builders of the war, not the ground it was fought on.
As for whether Poland is bound to suffer: no nation is chained to eternal punishment. What happens is that history gets twisted into a story, and Poland has often been cast in the role of scapegoat or martyr. When a people start to believe that story themselves, it becomes a trap: suffering turns into identity, and the weight of the past keeps being carried forward. You can see a similar dynamic in the United States, where the legacy of the slave trade and centuries of racial oppression still shape cultural narratives today. The danger isn’t just in the original injustice, but in how it echoes through generations, sometimes imposed from outside, sometimes internalized within.
The mystical implication isn’t that Poland is cursed, but that it risks being defined by other people’s narratives. The deeper task is to flip that inheritance: stop carrying guilt that isn’t yours, and reclaim identity on your own terms. A homeland doesn’t have to be a battlefield forever; it can also be sanctuary, strength, and continuity. My maternal great-grandparents fled WWII Poland, and ended up in the States. I grew up hearing this, and the above is my take on my grandfather's stance on the subject, from what I remember of his ramblings. He was a bit more vulgar but the gist is the same...
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Ha! did NOT intend to actually make the polack crack. I started it, as a joke, and then decided to give a better reply. Apparently it was thrown in and the time it took me to compose the above ramble exceeded the allowed 5 min. content edit.
Germany carries the architect’s blame for WWII; Poland just gets scapegoated because the battlefield was on its soil. Blame belongs to the builders of the war, not the ground it was fought on.
As for whether Poland is bound to suffer: no nation is chained to eternal punishment. What happens is that history gets twisted into a story, and Poland has often been cast in the role of scapegoat or martyr. When a people start to believe that story themselves, it becomes a trap: suffering turns into identity, and the weight of the past keeps being carried forward. You can see a similar dynamic in the United States, where the legacy of the slave trade and centuries of racial oppression still shape cultural narratives today. The danger isn’t just in the original injustice, but in how it echoes through generations, sometimes imposed from outside, sometimes internalized within.
The mystical implication isn’t that Poland is cursed, but that it risks being defined by other people’s narratives. The deeper task is to flip that inheritance: stop carrying guilt that isn’t yours, and reclaim identity on your own terms. A homeland doesn’t have to be a battlefield forever; it can also be sanctuary, strength, and continuity. My maternal great-grandparents fled WWII Poland, and ended up in the States. I grew up hearing this, and the above is my take on my grandfather's stance on the subject, from what I remember of his ramblings. He was a bit more vulgar but the gist is the same...
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Ha! did NOT intend to actually make the polack crack. I started it, as a joke, and then decided to give a better reply. Apparently it was thrown in and the time it took me to compose the above ramble exceeded the allowed 5 min. content edit.
Yes, this is what this thread is all about, Poland getting blamed. But I must be honest, I'm afraid of 2 things:
1) that Slavic rodnovery will be erased and lumped together with Nazis
2) that Poland will cease to exist, because Zionist Putin wants us dead (I'm considerably Ukrainoskeptic, due to their Nazi association and Volhynian pogroms against Poles).
Hmm. Not by me. As an American, I echo Washington's farewell address, I try to think very little about Europe.
I also feel Polish people have the same fundamental right to self-determination and autonomy as all of us do. But as an American, I feel we in the U.S. are best served by getting far away from European necro-states as much as we can. Since our revolution, we've been trying to sever ties with Europe, but we keep getting dragged back time and time again by Old World aristocratic vampires who game the systems with money sitting in offshore tax havens in "former" British colonies.
Also that's a two-way street. Our own U.S. Anglo-American oligarchic elite classes need to leave Europe alone for Europeans.