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Practicing Occultism Neuro divergent

Allofyoush

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it is a discernable shift. You will notice the change both physically and mentally. You are unlikely to wonder if you are in a trance. but don't seek it out in the meditation. Trance is a state reached by passivity, earlier you asked about binaural beats etc and I forgot to mention it. You do not want to use anything that brings your awareness to the outside world. Later when you are more advanced that won't be as much of a problem, but until then it's better to do it without it.

Nothing will teach you as much about the feeling of it than doing it though. I would be surprised if you could go 30 minutes without interruption and not be in a light trance by the end of it. Eventually it will be instant, or maybe 5 minutes if you're a bit scattered.
How would you describe this shift? I'm wondering if it feels different for different people. I've had instances during meditation that feel like a blanket has suddenly dropped over my senses and an additional clarity inside my head appears. Like it suddenly becomes easier to focus on my own thoughts, and fewer random thoughts pop into my head. Is that sort of what it's like?
 

Mycelial_Adept

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How would you describe this shift? I'm wondering if it feels different for different people. I've had instances during meditation that feel like a blanket has suddenly dropped over my senses and an additional clarity inside my head appears. Like it suddenly becomes easier to focus on my own thoughts, and fewer random thoughts pop into my head. Is that sort of what it's like?
That definitely sounds like a trance state, in deeper levels the mind goes completely blank/silent as well, which for someone who has one song or another endlessly looping in the background of their mind, is very nice lol. but that's all much later in the practice. When your mind is truly quiet is when you can hear the universe around you.

Honestly the best advice I could give is just to earnestly try it for a week or two and journal the experience. Note the physical and mental experiences the practice produces, see if it seems like the right practice for you. See if you can do 20 minutes a day. if that is too much, walk it back to a manageable time for you, and slowly increase as you can.
 

Hakon

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I appreciate this perspective a lot. I think one of the most important points here is that neurodivergence does not remove the need for discipline in magical work; it changes the way discipline has to be approached.

For someone with ADHD, the mistake is often trying to imitate a training model designed for a very different nervous system and then assuming failure means lack of will. In reality, the will has to be trained through structure, repetition, and realistic increments. Small sessions done consistently can build more power than occasional heroic attempts that collapse afterward.

The three skills you listed are fundamental: passive observation of thought, single-pointed focus, and deep silence/trance. I would also add that each one trains a different magical faculty. Observation teaches separation from the mental noise. Focus teaches direction of force. Silence opens the deeper field where real contact, reception, and transformation can occur.

The warning about intrusive thoughts during enchantment is also very important. In my view, this is why purification, centering, and mental stabilization before ritual are not optional. The operator must know what current they are actually feeding into the work.

I also agree with the “willpower muscle” idea. A timer, a fixed place, a fixed method, and gradual increase are simple, but very effective. For ADHD especially, consistency has to come before intensity. Five minutes every day with real attention is better than forcing an hour and developing aversion to the practice.

The same applies to reading. Mark the place, return, read a little, then push slightly beyond the point where the mind wants to escape. Over time, that becomes training in command over attention.

I think the deeper lesson is this: magical discipline should not be romanticized as suffering or self-punishment. It is the slow education of the mind, body, and subtle faculties until they can obey the work.
 
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