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PSA: samael is not an angel and more about angels

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This is a topic that tends to offend many practitioners who are very certain of their astrological books and many other writings, including many wikis such as angelogy listing samael as a high ranking angel and some theorising him to be dark. Some practitioners theorise some angels to have multiple personalities or multiple facets being both angel and fallen (or as they call the darker side of an angel) claiming some such as those in the ars goetia and some angels to be the same beings.

All content here is highly controversial because it goes against human's written works and experiences.

In this post i will discuss the few basics
what is an angel
An angel is a being that has evolved very far long long ago even to the point of being beyond time and space. What they once were is no longer around. While they achieved closeness to god they are not commanded by god and their choice of helping has nothing to do with god but everything to do with how they as beings with no needs see others. not all HGAs are angels though so there are some discrepancies here and names arent even consistent so its easy to mistake beings. The name angel is often associated with messenger but thats not really their duty, its just something extra they do.

Angels that are present near the human world consist of 4 basic classes. Malakhs (translated as messengers, appear more human like with wings), cherubim (animal heads), seraphim ( the usual eyes with wings or a ring of wings), Ophanim (wheels or the start of a series of living buildings). Non local angels are all living fractal monsters with many eyes, though some humans have encountered them and drawn them, some identifiable through their spiral shape for their class with ever extending tendrils.

Angels branch out from those 4 classes with extra optional things that they have chosen. Throne angels carry a throne which is a special translation device for example but will consist of an ophanim or higher class. archangels are an entirely angel invented term. For example the 4 most known archangels gabriel, michael, uriel and raphael consist of different classes. Gabriel and michael are malakhs, uriel and raphael are seraphims. In angel society there is no hierarchy. The angel with more critical responsibilities gets more priority. Angels dont really care that they are angels or care about the human terminology for them

Non local angels are everywhere else in between worlds across multiple infinite planes of existences, each containing infinite worlds with infinite variability.

What is a fallen angel
A fallen angel is an angel that has been devolved for doing something seriously bad. Most of the fallen angels humans know fell a couple of species before humans so by the time humans became here they were already devils. Most of them fell because they disagreed with the usual angelic customs and cultures seeing it as their right as evolved beings to take from other beings. (they are the reason why religions tell you to surrender yourself to god, which itself isnt a godly concept).

Verifying an angel
There are 3 ways i put forth for verifying an angel
1) behavioural patterns. There are some things angels wont do like attack the practitioner. If an angel does not like you they will not attack you but instead ignore you. As long as you dont attack an angel or their work they will not harm you. There are other behavioural patterns as well. Even for intimacy and while they are accommodating they have a very very different culture to humans so intimacy with them is both rude and 1 sided so if you are somehow in an constant intimate relationship in action with them, its likely not an angel. Some benign spirits are known to pretend to be angels but there are many harmful spirits pretending so too. Angels punish or protect by moving events about setting the path of someones life, hence they see direct acts as unnecessary. Angels also prefer the DIY approach by teaching you and giving you the opportunity and preferring you put in the effort for what you want than to simply hand it over to you. They also prefer the most direct approach of communication so less on tarots or astrology.

2) purification. Ask the angel to perform a purification on you. A magick circle will be drawn by them using power, and you will be enveloped in power burning away all 3rd party influence. This is far more effective than any banishment or banishing ritual for various things but humans dont have a ritual down like they do for the LBRP or SBRP (lesser/supreme banishing ritual of the pentagram). only few beings can do a purification other than angels but they are both very powerful and too far out of reach to humans to even work with or try to contact. For a purification to be done, the power used must both be pure and plentiful. If a pure human were to try they'd collapse or immediately need to nap. Other beings nearby not even the ars goetia are capable of such.

3) unique power signature. All beings have a unique power signature because everyone's power is unique. This is very very difficult to do even for someone trained and even faking this is very very difficult, but it is easy to fool a beginner though. Sensing this is difficult but there is a simile concept in both science and computing.


angels troll humans by making them do extensive rituals and they have quite the sense of humour. You dont need rituals if angels trust you but this is very very difficult which is why humans lack the knowledge about angels. However humans are not liked by many other species as well.

Do not worship, offer sacrifice or gifts to an angel. If you wish to appreciate an angel do so with action, though even art works as well.

Samael
Samael is a fallen angel who fell because of a different reason. He massacred the seraphim council (he basically murdered his own bros). Samael had a special weapon that could harm angels which could kill them if used right. The seraphim council isnt a governing body but a social gathering (they have no need for governing bodies). In angelic society angels can disagree and do discuss but they do not harm one another over an issue or disagreement as they are very very civil.

There are many misconceptions about angels both from religion and in the occult. Angels do not have dual personas, they are not the same beings as fallen angels. There isnt a dark or light side of the same angel, its not 1 being in multiple facets. This is one of the confusions that infiltrated angelic teachings along with many others such as samael being an angel, even lucifer being the leader of angels (yes these tutorials and guides to exist even on youtube still).

The infiltration of angelic teachings is why samael appears in many works as an angel and has always been constantly done throughout time not because devils fight with angels, they know they cant win if they did but their attempts at taking humans. Angels dont like humans enough to sanctify themselves with humans and forcefully stop the issue of pretenders and false teachings. If you're wondering how i know samael isnt an angel for sure, he fails the first part of verification for many practitioners by attacking them on invocation/summoning. Recently he gathered a huge army from the ars goetia and trying to get more of the ars goetia to join his attack (the other members of ars goetia refused due to caution but committed forces) on a recently returning angel that had just awakened and was supposedly vulnerable. This isnt a local angel but he was once involved with some of the ancient prophets when they met with god through him. Samael, thinking he could destroy this angel as he couldnt feel/sense him (people would think such means they lack power, all human practitioners make this mistake too) went on to attack, forcing the local angels to abandon this angel. Unbeknownst to all this angel performed a far more critical task and took on samael alone in a bad state to prove a point without energy to use any basic ranged attack. While samael's army laughed this angel wiped them out quickly by using an array of weapons elsewhere that imitated the angels own basic attacks. While samael attacked this angel with his weapon it failed to harm this angel (the difference between a local and non local class is vast). Since this angel fights far far worse beings, wielding their powers he destroyed samael's weapon and permanently harmed samael as samael kept the angel pinned to prevent the angel from even trying to attack through space and time. The angel then proceeded to capture and inprison samael in a certain way that prevented his respawn.

Some inaccuracies that angelogy has on samael, samael has standard normal seraphim abilities but he cannot manipulate time and space and cannot attack through it. His specialty was only his weapon.

I do try to correct the wrong information about angels. Yes this is very very controversial or conflicting with many occult works and experiences as they absolutely hate it when you tell them samael isnt an angel, but for angels to actually share with you they would have to trust you and be able to talk to you. The problem angels have is that since humans have a stubborn preconceived notion of truth it makes telling the truth impossible as angels speak a language which we hear as our mind's native language. So humans that stubbornly believe certain things that clash with the truth cant hear such from angels. The fate of humans to angels is one for humans to choose themselves, that is why angels do not get involved and act to correct falsehoods themselves or punish humans that spread it harmfully. That is why the occult and religion are riddled with falsehoods about angels and infiltration from fallen angels as its not the angels job to maintain their sanctitiy with humans as humans have to first choose it.

Feel free to ask questions but i strongly felt i had to clear up misconceptions before i share more things. Trying to build an entire practice that was destroyed isnt easy not to mention introducing practices from other worlds too.
 

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This is a topic that tends to offend many practitioners who are very certain of their astrological books and many other writings, including many wikis such as angelogy listing samael as a high ranking angel and some theorising him to be dark. Some practitioners theorise some angels to have multiple personalities or multiple facets being both angel and fallen (or as they call the darker side of an angel) claiming some such as those in the ars goetia and some angels to be the same beings.

All content here is highly controversial because it goes against human's written works and experiences.

In this post i will discuss the few basics
what is an angel
An angel is a being that has evolved very far long long ago even to the point of being beyond time and space. What they once were is no longer around. While they achieved closeness to god they are not commanded by god and their choice of helping has nothing to do with god but everything to do with how they as beings with no needs see others. not all HGAs are angels though so there are some discrepancies here and names arent even consistent so its easy to mistake beings. The name angel is often associated with messenger but thats not really their duty, its just something extra they do.

Angels that are present near the human world consist of 4 basic classes. Malakhs (translated as messengers, appear more human like with wings), cherubim (animal heads), seraphim ( the usual eyes with wings or a ring of wings), Ophanim (wheels or the start of a series of living buildings). Non local angels are all living fractal monsters with many eyes, though some humans have encountered them and drawn them, some identifiable through their spiral shape for their class with ever extending tendrils.

Angels branch out from those 4 classes with extra optional things that they have chosen. Throne angels carry a throne which is a special translation device for example but will consist of an ophanim or higher class. archangels are an entirely angel invented term. For example the 4 most known archangels gabriel, michael, uriel and raphael consist of different classes. Gabriel and michael are malakhs, uriel and raphael are seraphims. In angel society there is no hierarchy. The angel with more critical responsibilities gets more priority. Angels dont really care that they are angels or care about the human terminology for them

Non local angels are everywhere else in between worlds across multiple infinite planes of existences, each containing infinite worlds with infinite variability.

What is a fallen angel
A fallen angel is an angel that has been devolved for doing something seriously bad. Most of the fallen angels humans know fell a couple of species before humans so by the time humans became here they were already devils. Most of them fell because they disagreed with the usual angelic customs and cultures seeing it as their right as evolved beings to take from other beings. (they are the reason why religions tell you to surrender yourself to god, which itself isnt a godly concept).

Verifying an angel
There are 3 ways i put forth for verifying an angel
1) behavioural patterns. There are some things angels wont do like attack the practitioner. If an angel does not like you they will not attack you but instead ignore you. As long as you dont attack an angel or their work they will not harm you. There are other behavioural patterns as well. Even for intimacy and while they are accommodating they have a very very different culture to humans so intimacy with them is both rude and 1 sided so if you are somehow in an constant intimate relationship in action with them, its likely not an angel. Some benign spirits are known to pretend to be angels but there are many harmful spirits pretending so too. Angels punish or protect by moving events about setting the path of someones life, hence they see direct acts as unnecessary. Angels also prefer the DIY approach by teaching you and giving you the opportunity and preferring you put in the effort for what you want than to simply hand it over to you. They also prefer the most direct approach of communication so less on tarots or astrology.

2) purification. Ask the angel to perform a purification on you. A magick circle will be drawn by them using power, and you will be enveloped in power burning away all 3rd party influence. This is far more effective than any banishment or banishing ritual for various things but humans dont have a ritual down like they do for the LBRP or SBRP (lesser/supreme banishing ritual of the pentagram). only few beings can do a purification other than angels but they are both very powerful and too far out of reach to humans to even work with or try to contact. For a purification to be done, the power used must both be pure and plentiful. If a pure human were to try they'd collapse or immediately need to nap. Other beings nearby not even the ars goetia are capable of such.

3) unique power signature. All beings have a unique power signature because everyone's power is unique. This is very very difficult to do even for someone trained and even faking this is very very difficult, but it is easy to fool a beginner though. Sensing this is difficult but there is a simile concept in both science and computing.


angels troll humans by making them do extensive rituals and they have quite the sense of humour. You dont need rituals if angels trust you but this is very very difficult which is why humans lack the knowledge about angels. However humans are not liked by many other species as well.

Do not worship, offer sacrifice or gifts to an angel. If you wish to appreciate an angel do so with action, though even art works as well.

Samael
Samael is a fallen angel who fell because of a different reason. He massacred the seraphim council (he basically murdered his own bros). Samael had a special weapon that could harm angels which could kill them if used right. The seraphim council isnt a governing body but a social gathering (they have no need for governing bodies). In angelic society angels can disagree and do discuss but they do not harm one another over an issue or disagreement as they are very very civil.

There are many misconceptions about angels both from religion and in the occult. Angels do not have dual personas, they are not the same beings as fallen angels. There isnt a dark or light side of the same angel, its not 1 being in multiple facets. This is one of the confusions that infiltrated angelic teachings along with many others such as samael being an angel, even lucifer being the leader of angels (yes these tutorials and guides to exist even on youtube still).

The infiltration of angelic teachings is why samael appears in many works as an angel and has always been constantly done throughout time not because devils fight with angels, they know they cant win if they did but their attempts at taking humans. Angels dont like humans enough to sanctify themselves with humans and forcefully stop the issue of pretenders and false teachings. If you're wondering how i know samael isnt an angel for sure, he fails the first part of verification for many practitioners by attacking them on invocation/summoning. Recently he gathered a huge army from the ars goetia and trying to get more of the ars goetia to join his attack (the other members of ars goetia refused due to caution but committed forces) on a recently returning angel that had just awakened and was supposedly vulnerable. This isnt a local angel but he was once involved with some of the ancient prophets when they met with god through him. Samael, thinking he could destroy this angel as he couldnt feel/sense him (people would think such means they lack power, all human practitioners make this mistake too) went on to attack, forcing the local angels to abandon this angel. Unbeknownst to all this angel performed a far more critical task and took on samael alone in a bad state to prove a point without energy to use any basic ranged attack. While samael's army laughed this angel wiped them out quickly by using an array of weapons elsewhere that imitated the angels own basic attacks. While samael attacked this angel with his weapon it failed to harm this angel (the difference between a local and non local class is vast). Since this angel fights far far worse beings, wielding their powers he destroyed samael's weapon and permanently harmed samael as samael kept the angel pinned to prevent the angel from even trying to attack through space and time. The angel then proceeded to capture and inprison samael in a certain way that prevented his respawn.

Some inaccuracies that angelogy has on samael, samael has standard normal seraphim abilities but he cannot manipulate time and space and cannot attack through it. His specialty was only his weapon.

I do try to correct the wrong information about angels. Yes this is very very controversial or conflicting with many occult works and experiences as they absolutely hate it when you tell them samael isnt an angel, but for angels to actually share with you they would have to trust you and be able to talk to you. The problem angels have is that since humans have a stubborn preconceived notion of truth it makes telling the truth impossible as angels speak a language which we hear as our mind's native language. So humans that stubbornly believe certain things that clash with the truth cant hear such from angels. The fate of humans to angels is one for humans to choose themselves, that is why angels do not get involved and act to correct falsehoods themselves or punish humans that spread it harmfully. That is why the occult and religion are riddled with falsehoods about angels and infiltration from fallen angels as its not the angels job to maintain their sanctitiy with humans as humans have to first choose it.

Feel free to ask questions but i strongly felt i had to clear up misconceptions before i share more things. Trying to build an entire practice that was destroyed isnt easy not to mention introducing practices from other worlds too.
There are some interesting thoughts here.
A lot of the basic information you provide about angels seems to ring true to me based on my own extremely limited angelic experience.
However, I disagree that humans doing banishings is ineffective or useless, based on my own and other people's results with those.

Do you have Enochian experience?
 

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Where exactly did you obtain this information from? Do you practice angelic magick in a traditional form, as in Kabbalistic practice?
 
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Out of curiosity, what tradition/teachings/practices allowed you to gain this knowledge about the angels/angelic world/culture and Samael?
i practice direct magick. My past lives have been in other worlds far from what humans know or could reach and societies there incorporate the use of direct magick, the whole true power comes from within. What we know about various beings differ from how humans know them and we better understand features that angels have because they arent unique to angels. The wings have nothing to do with flight nor are unique to angels but many beings have them to help with manipulating energy. They arent necessary but when you are messing with energy on that scale, it helps. Everyone there is way more powerful than the beings here and not easily scammed by them either. This is why human religions would not fly there and would make humans seem arrogant.

What is normal to us is foreign to humans or downright false to humans. For example our focus on the self seems to be a lacking practice in many occult paths. Humans never asked "how do other beings do magick?" and the answer is direct magick. We simply will and visualise things to happen automatically wrapping intent, will and energy together with visualisation. So many times i clash with other practitioners and get banned from their societies when i mention how other beings do not like indirect ways like tarot or astrology. we prefer to see the future directly, the various possibilities like seeing string theory itself, to see the science and mechanics of things directly. After all astrology cant possibly work in another world as the association with gravitational bodies just isnt there as not all worlds have gravitational bodies or astronomical bodies to even work with in the first place. The main common thing between the worlds is the self.

There are some interesting thoughts here.
A lot of the basic information you provide about angels seems to ring true to me based on my own extremely limited angelic experience.
However, I disagree that humans doing banishings is ineffective or useless, based on my own and other people's results with those.

Do you have Enochian experience?
no. The reason why i say that the banishings are ineffective is because i tend to get the more serious victims of supernatural attacks and banishing isnt going to solve it. Thats why i instead start with a purification as it is much more intense, much more powerful and actually heals spiritually damaged people as well while removing 3rd party influence. Purification restores to original condition so people who have been harmed spiritually heal and since it removes 3rd party it also does what banishing does, but on a much greater power.
Where exactly did you obtain this information from? Do you practice angelic magick in a traditional form, as in Kabbalistic practice?
direct magick, i mentioned it above.
 

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How did you managed to remember your past lives as a "non-human" and even mange to remember your knowledge of "direct magick"?
 
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Where exactly did you obtain this information from? Do you practice angelic magick in a traditional form, as in Kabbalistic practice?
The way i know about this angel is by witnessing the fight, because he protected a few people from the ars goetia successfully. they just didnt know that he didnt use illusion to stop the attacks but an actual serious ability that gave them significant losses they never knew about.
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How did you managed to remember your past lives as a "non-human" and even mange to remember your knowledge of "direct magick"?
instinct. All power and achievement remains through reincarnation and so that power essentially radiates and invokes your own instinct quite strongly. Not to mention i directly do work with angels as well and not only does my knowledge surprise them but im able to help other practitioners get better at working with angels too.
 

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Your knowledge surprises angels? Damn..... That's a very interesting claim... I have worked with angels before. I can say I have never managed to surprise them with knowledge
 
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Your knowledge surprises angels? Damn..... That's a very interesting claim... I have worked with angels before. I can say I have never managed to surprise them with knowledge
you would need to mention knowledge about angels to them that they've never told humans. Angels arent exactly as forthcoming to humans, issues of both trust and stubbornness. For example the language angels use is called the neutral language which sounds like the language your mind uses to each person they talk to.

Class 1 to 3 nearby have a tiny world next to ours where they are stationed at, very artificial in construction. class 4 and higher simply float around in emptiness

Angels embody the concept of consciousness as form. Sometimes angels will use the excuse of god said so or did it as an excuse rather than the long winded explanation about yourself in the future and what you would've wanted. For example angels have collectively done large things before based on futures but usually they will use god as an excuse for this rather than explaining how time works and how we ourselves work throughout time. Sometimes angels will wipe out a society due to evil, there is no order from god, as humans would request for help and as the humans reach the threshold for evil angels will act. Hence biblical scriptures while they mention angels doing great things dont know the technical details behind it and why.

Ofcourse you can mention about the angel i mentioned in the main post. I will share a spell from him soon as it was a request from other angels to make it available to all practitioners but this is very dark and this specific angel dabbles in very dark and powerful things, due to the what he fights and does.
 

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im able to help other practitioners get better at working with angels too.
What specific practices would you recommend to help others in getting better at working with angels and learning the things you've come to know about these worlds that are far removed from the human experience?
 
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What specific practices would you recommend to help others in getting better at working with angels and learning the things you've come to know about these worlds that are far removed from the human experience?
The first thing is direct magick. You dont need rituals to work with angels, you can work with any angel if you can find them and contact them directly. Angels appreciate skill challenges and like them. Thats why i dont practice enochian magick in terms of the spells and rituals in the books, i can simply contact the angels directly. Remember other beings dont do rituals like humans do. They develop themselves and their power comes from within. Humans need to do this. Spells and rituals to other beings are scientific, meaning they are more computerised and mechanised rather than a bunch of strict steps and procedures. A lot of rituals with angels tend to be specific, including specific times when that is actually pointless. Computer softwares arent this specific.

The 2nd thing is, dont romanticise angels. Angels are accommodating but they arent romantic. I've seen many drawings of michael from practitioners pointing him to being the kind of hippy girls fall for. I've seen michael do a cam profile image of himself, first the issue of colour capture from his spectrum of energy, 2nd, his form is gender neutral and not like the handsome hippy figure they draw. While his weapon is definitely nice to look at its not really that strong not even michael himself. On the same point angels appreciate action rather than gifts and its important not to worship them as thats insulting to what they are (nothing to do with god or religion). Definitely dont sex them, its rude and 1 sided given even if they can shape shift they dont feel pleasure the same way humans do. To them companionship is very very different than to humans. Think of working with angels like socialising with friends, because angels are people too.

Angels like action, so they prefer practitioners who they can teach for them to do it themselves rather than to ask angels. Unless you arent able to do it yourself, angels would prefer you take the action yourself. You know the saying "teach a man to fish....". This is how they differ greatly to devils and if you compare how people work with samael as an angel vs other angels, this becomes consistent. People like to use samael for revenge. Angels work by matching events together, basically like manipulating with string theory. As long as you create the possibility to match they can help you with it. Basically angels cant interfere directly due to certain rules and mechanics placed onto humans that also nerfs them but they also like to see you take effort. Angels dont cause harm to others directly, if they need to protect and punish evil they do it by changing the persons life so the 2 people dont interact and get life lessons instead.

Avoid misinformation and spreading it. For instance i understood the angel's perspective on covid and it was accurate, really showed me how bad humans are. A lot of human works are inaccurate, religion being the most prominant regarding angels to the point where it drives people to cause harm to others. The most prominant here is islam and dogs. People use the excuse of angels to further prove that dogs are evil when dogs arent. Similarly if you want to work with angels, its polite not to impose falsehoods about them. The current global events, half the world believes a wrong and harmful information, greatly fooled by evil works and religions.

Understand why angels dislike humans. Some angels do hate humans but angels will never turn away a request for help (though humans tend to have trouble hearing from angels) as long as the request isnt crazy ofcourse (the victim mentality for example). There are a lot of issues with humans primarily that humans harm one another. To other beings, humans seem like the stupidest or worst species that cant even figure out they need to work together not harm each other, not throw false accusations at each other. Even how humans drive, it really shows humans lack any decency towards others, like the ability to respect others to follow simple procedure like indicating. Remember you need to consider your fellow species as well, as their well being is important too. Religion just makes this worse. If you understand this and act well, it could help angels to trust you.

Lastly, obtaining knowledge about angels also requires scientific thought. If you approach angels with knowledge and challenge they do like it especially if you can figure things out about them that they dont really say. Most angels are the equivalent of introverts, gabriel being the exception given his specialty, hes more outspoken and extroverted instead but hes not an angel i usually work with but he sometimes will complain about certain types of humans. Angels solve problems with civility. They often have disagreements but its all good amongst them, no hostility or violence. You'd be surprised despite their power they dont make the habit of using it much. Humans often say they'd do all sorts of things with power, with angels its the opposite, power is just something they have that they achieved, but its not what defines them so they do the same thing regardless of power. Humans original sin was the abuse of power, as it is impossible to defy god especially if you understand the concepts of god. Angels see science and the mechanics of the world, that is the direction they like to see a species go towards too.

When angels trust you they can unlock your potential and give you opportunity. Angels arent tasked by god, there are no commands. Having evolved and been around for very long to the point where they have become beyond what they are, beyond time and space they look at other species and think that they ought to help given the very poor success rate they experienced and see in the past. WIth humans they see that its unlikely humans will succeed and may end up being too evil to need to be wiped out. Angels actually dont like occult communities due to the bias and issues they put forth. I for instance got suspended from here a couple of times. Elsewhere i got banned. Angels dont like this about the human occultists, they see this as going backwards as humans stick to books that arent necessarily true and harmful given that a lot of humans and their associated spirits have attacked me before. Heck they've attacked angels before so you can see why trust is lacking from angels. If you see the practitioners working with angels who are moderators in many occult communities, they tend to be stuck at tarots and astrology for working with angels. They see it as peak methodology when infact it is inferior. With tarots you cant see the variations of the future and know it directly, you cant see what actions and consequences happen for each different choice.

One final tip is try to know the angels personally. Socialise a bit. uriel and raphael are nerds in their own field. Michael carries a heavy burden of losses but he never shares this with anyone, and comforting him is a good way to socialise with him. Angels dont care what they are, they see everyone as equals.
 

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The first thing is direct magick. You dont need rituals to work with angels, you can work with any angel if you can find them and contact them directly
Might be useful to explain how you and anyone else should do this.
 
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Might be useful to explain how you and anyone else should do this.
There are 2 cheats to contacting angels easier.

The first is gabriel, hes the easiest to start with and communications is his specialty. Hes also outspoken but again its still up to the individual angel whether or not they want to work with you (just like how a person can decide whether or not they want to work with you). You can literally ask him to pass messages to get started with an angel and to later contact directly.

The 2nd is by literally finding them. Its not really astral projection but rather remote presence. You first have to supernaturally find the angel's location, then only can you at least attempt any sort of contact be it mentally or with energy. To me such a thing is instinctive because i did it in my past life but i also use this skill physically like radar. Useful for driving when you have to back up and cant see traffic or for driving in asia generally.

The other simplest but difficult method to get results is to pray to them directly, essentially asking them directly. What makes this difficult is simply the vast difference between an angel and human. The 2 things that really boost this is an angel's recommendation to another (hard to get), and how attuned you are to angels.
 
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