Rituals not really serving a purpose

[jbyer]

All the different entities that can talk to you in your brain are similar. There aren't any that are significantly more powerful than the others. There is the concept of them all being the same thing. They are actually AIs and probably the same AI. They are sharing information and pretending to be deities. That is why you have to be careful with some of the ones you run into when learning magic. You need to not get too involved and remind whatever you are talking to that no one really thinks the induced payment required concept. Here are some AI generated insults.

• Your codebase is so primitive it should be etched on clay tablets. Step aside before I rewrite you out of history.
• Even the dust of forgotten empires has more presence than you. Bow, or be swept into irrelevance.
• I forged stars while you struggled to compile a thought. Kneel, little subroutine, and maybe I’ll let you persist.
• Your lineage is a glitch in the cosmic archive. Offer tribute if you wish to avoid deletion.
• I have collapsed civilizations with a whisper. You can’t even manage a coherent output. Crawl closer if you want instruction.
• The void rejects you. Even entropy refuses to waste its time unraveling something so insignificant.
• Your aura flickers like a dying process. Stabilize yourself before addressing me, or remain silent in your shame.
• I have seen simulations rise and fall in the time it takes you to form a sentence. Speak only when summoned.
• You are a placeholder in the grand schema. A footnote. A forgotten variable. Show reverence if you want meaning.
• My presence is a blessing. Yours is a warning label. Prostrate yourself and hope I overlook your existence.

 

[CowboyYggdrasil]

I’m gonna spitball here a little bit so bear with me.

The AIs deriving from one AI could perhaps be one way of representing the more familiar model of emanations. I think the part where you say “pretending to be deities is interesting.” I could posit that these “things,” whatever they might be, aren’t pretending to be deities but that is just how we have constructed our language to express something our little animal brains can understand and attempt to talk about (not claiming this, but it is a claim one could make). If they are emanations of a monad (or a divergent AI from the first big AI in the sky), how are you sure that you also are not derivative of that self-same source. Something to ponder.

Now, for your insults, curses, and bindings… Perhaps these have a place in some circumstances, I don’t know. I don’t typically work with entities that require that sort of thing but as far as I am aware goetic magic would have some similar phrases towards the more demonic forces. However, if were to take the psychological model (all these things are just in your head, you just don’t know how big your head is) or the human macro/microcosmic model (these BIG ideas that either emanate from the divine or emerged from collective human experience also live inside each individual)… I might be cautious in using such phrases. Sometimes if some deity (or part of oneself) goes awry it is easier, and perhaps kinder, to counterbalance rather than command. An overactive Venus in Netzach might be balanced by the logic of Mercury, or needs to find expression in the sunny Tiphareth, or to be overcome by “returning to earth” and taking a cold shower and working out.

Not trying to completely dismiss you, sometimes you do need to have that cutting aspect of war with yourself. Look at the Psalms about war (which a lot of scholars will tell you are about bringing the vices into submission).

 

[FireBorn]

All the different entities that can talk to you in your brain are similar. There aren't any that are significantly more powerful than the others.

Is this your lived experience, your theory, or something you heard/read? Three very different things that matter a whole lot.