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Saint Expedite and other "folk" Saints

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Has anybody here working experience with Saint Expedite? While i actually never believed in the magic and legacy of the Saints, and thought, this is only for devout Christians, the reality seems more complicated. To keep it short, for me it worked, even without belief or formal ceremony.
 
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This saint is basically a thoughtform that became a powerful egregore.
That's every saint. Christianity - ironically enough in light of the wonder story at its inauguration- doesn't have any practical keys to immortalization as an ascended being. So when people are praying to any saint, they are directing them to an egregore.
 

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Like most of us who were raised as Christians, in difficult moments I have prayed to every well-known saint. Saint Expedite never responded.
On the contrary, I have received help during hard times from Saint Charbel, Saint Fanourios, Saint Porphyrios, Saint Paisios, Saint Elder Galaktia, and of course from the Virgin Mary and the Archangels Michael, Gabriel, Raphael, and Uriel.
 

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Near my University the biggest cult is Saint Rita of Cascia, being that she is "Saint of Impossible Causes, Advocate of Desperate Causes".
If you need to pass an exam, she is the one to call upon!
 

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I did some experiments with st Expedite novenas, also Jesus Malverde prayers.

Expedite experiments led to quick cash but not much. After the rituals I randomly found 20-40€ outside.

Malverde the narco saint.
It was maybe around 10 years ago, for some reason I needed weed to get rid of pain, not a fan of this thing but I felt like it was the best solution at that time. Anyway I read something in a charged state and focused on Malverde prayers & images. It didn't take long to find a bag outside. It just happened to be on my way.

Both times it felt like the requests got carried out by random spirits or just egregores. I can't remember all the details anymore.:unsure:

Porphyrios,
The Kafsokalyvia monk? This one is really good for spiritual requests.

Saints, and thought, this is only for devout Christians
Strong belief, focusing, intentions, this can be enough. If you do work with Christian texts then the saint work goes more easily. Baptism makes it easier too.
At first I wasn't baptized nor didn't know much about saints but it still worked right away. Later after getting more involved it worked even better.
 

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Amadeus,
yes, that one.
He is excellent, especially in cases where you need guidance to find the right path or the right person.
For example, I had asked him to guide me to a good lawyer for a serious case, and things worked out in such a way that I was guided to the right professional.
 

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Only called him once and he came through in spades. I hear good things about him in general.

In my view, St. Expedite, like a lot of names, are masks used by a variety of spirits and forces for us to ritually interact with them - basically an 'egregore' - a bundle of astral flux - that gets inhabited by a spirit / daimon working within a specific cultural context.

In my view one would call Expedite if you are in New Orleans, New York, Mexico, Texas, or Los Angeles, etc, anywhere anywhere there are a bunch of Catholics, but not in, I don’t know, China or the UK.

By way of example, another folk saint is Anima Sola. Anima Sola in Los Angeles is not the same as in Haiti, where the image is bound up with a very hot Petwo spirit named Marinette.

In the Mexican Catholic context she’s the Lonely Soul in purgatory, an image of passive suffering and longing for redemption. In Mexican Brujería, Anima Sola is most famously seen as a manifestation of the Intranquil Spirit used in coercive love magic. She is lonely and suffering, she is asked to make a target feel that same loneliness and longing for you.

But in the Haitian ritual and cultural context the image of Anima Sola is the pwen, the "point" of manifestation for Marinette Bwa Cheche - Marinette of the Dry Arm - a Petwo Lwa born from the violence of the Haitian Revolution. She isn't invoked to make person pine for you, she's called for raw power, vengeance, and death.
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Oh. Just to add to what Amadeus said.

The Catholic saints don't really care that much if you are Catholic or not. Catholicism mean's "universal" and they are there to help everyone

Not that this is an issue with Folk Saints, but in general I think it's a good idea to avoid any saints who were the Doctors of the Church - or are mythically entangled with the stories of the same. Especially avoid any who were Dominicans - who were the primary intellectual engine and the administrative face of the Inquisition. That's the "harsh" end of the mythstream, imho.
 
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I've found that in certain practices I've done in the past, St. Cyprian can be very "sinister" in essence/feel when called upon. He was once a black magician/necromancer, after all. I legitimately remember one time I was doing a rosary/novena to him that I felt like there was almost a "hand" gripping me around my neck at times. Or a noose, perhaps. Anyways, some of these saints are quite dark in my experience.

Another interesting one is St. Peter from a Sabbatic perspective (Nicolaj Frisvold talks about this), where St. Peter is syncretized with the folkloric Devil as well as a liminal "Leba/Exu" mentality at the same time. Very "hot" sort of Luciferian atmosphere followed, candle flames went many many inches up, etc. Electrical.

The darkest saint I've ever interacted with is Mary, though. Something I'm still trying to wrap my head around to this day. It sounds trite, but I felt her sorrow, and it brought me to tears (something that is very hard for my morbidly anhedonic ass to even fathom nowadays). But it wasn't some "a mother's love uWu" kind of sadness, but a genuinely chthonic and ancient sadness. A saint/spirit/soul that understood very well the consequences of what happened on the True Cross to her son, and how it changed the world (and possibly even reality). Like I said, very hard for me to put in words what I experienced.

Mind you, this is my experience and mine alone. YMMV.
 

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The darkest saint I've ever interacted with is Mary, though. Something I'm still trying to wrap my head around to this day. It sounds trite, but I felt her sorrow, and it brought me to tears (something that is very hard for my morbidly anhedonic ass to even fathom nowadays). But it wasn't some "a mother's love uWu" kind of sadness, but a genuinely chthonic and ancient sadness. A saint/spirit/soul that understood very well the consequences of what happened on the True Cross to her son, and how it changed the world (and possibly even reality). Like I said, very hard for me to put in words what I experienced.

Mind you, this is my experience and mine alone. YMMV.
No yeah, you're onto something with Mary. I prayed a chaplet of the Our Lady of Sorrows and wound up in tears progressively through each Sorrow until I was a blubbering mess at the end. It cleared something dark out of me though, at least.
 
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