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Servitors in astral temple

otiosus

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I personally dislike keeping a physical anchor for my servitors since I'd have to carry them around.
So I came up with the idea to let my servitor live in my astral temple. That way I can take them wherever I go.
But my head hurts when I let the servitor in. Then I found that since my inner temple is in me, it would mean condensing a huge amount of energy in me. Which results in unconfort.
Any one met the same problem? Solutions? Alternatives?
Or just comments and thoughts.
 

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Does a physical anchor really need to go with you? The way I see it, the astral is like the body's fascia that connects all distant organs to each other indirectly—but the fascia itself has a direct connection to those organs. So, the servitor in the astral can go wherever you point it to because the astral has a direct connection to places/events that would be physically distant. Thus the anchor can stay where it is because it's indirectly connected to the target result.

Of course, that's just the way I see it and it may not work that way for you. The theoretical aspect of this problem itself seems rich for contemplation.
 

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I thought of that before, but it seems the connection between me and the servitor becomes unstable when I go out.
The way I see it is since the serviter is binded in a physical anchor, it should not be able to go too far from it.
 

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That's interesting. On the one hand, I wonder if it isn't related to the servitor's instructions and endowed abilities. Maybe these could be adjusted to give it more working capability? On the other, I'm curious about how you phrased your perspective as 'it should not be able to'. That in itself sounds like something of a subparameter, or perhaps a kind of belief that could be experimented on.

As for another solution, perhaps the anchor could be 'replicated' in a more portable way?
 

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This belief came from a concept or to say a folklore that was quite widespread in the place where I live. Which states that spirits bound to a certain place or object cannot travel far.
I agree that this may be a false belief, at least for servitors. But it's still hard for me to consider that a binded spirit can travel unlimited. Perhaps I'll change my mind after I tried conjuring jinn or necromancy, as they involve binding spirits as well.

About replication, I remember seeing a magician use a jar of homemade mead as the anchor. Taking a small amount when leaving. Destroying the servitor when the mead is finished. I once tried to replicate that but failed.

I am currently trying a new method, which is to let the servitor live in the astral plane itself. I quite agree with the idea that astral plane connects to everything. So letting the servitor live in the astral plane seems like a worthy try.
 

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I'm curious to know how it goes—good luck!

I agree with certain spirits being bound to place or object. I would actually describe myself as such right now! (But not for long). There are some interesting questions at play here.. my answer to 'what binds' spirits to things is 'attachments', but what are attachments? Or, why? It makes some sense that we can attach servitors to things of our choosing, since they are of us; so then how could a servitor 'loosen' enough to access the 'wider' astral plane moreso than a spirit of place—why couldn't, or why wouldn't, a spirit of place do that? I suppose it depends on the spirit, and whoever/whatever they might be 'nested within'.
 

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I thought of that before, but it seems the connection between me and the servitor becomes unstable when I go out.
The way I see it is since the servitor is binded in a physical anchor, it should not be able to go too far from it.
The servitor is not necessarily bound to an object, it can be not bounded too. The essential thing about the servitor is that it is a personal creation. If you forge and program it with a ability to travel, it can travel for certain. There are even practitioners who program their servitors to do tasks independently that are done on a place where they not live themself. They send their Servitor on a travel with strict programming about what the servitor is allowed to do or not. You need give it a strict programming about the job that it has to do and you need a strict programming about how the servitor gets it feeding. So, essentially it boils down to very strict programming and to revision that often enough to keep the servitor stable. The revision of those programs have to be on a regular interval.

To keep things practical you can program a servitor that normally is bind to an object has the ability to travel with you. If you build in the program that you if you perform a little ritual with object, the servitor attaches to you to travel, it is very possible. That little ritual can be as simple as touching it 10 times on a certain places of the object.... I would say, experiment with this. make the next year every 2 weeks a servitor that you program in that way and that you absorb after just ten days. You get skilled in the programming itself after and you are able to refine your methods. It is worth the experimentation. I did this before, just to get skilled in forging a servitor and to see what the effect of programming is. After that period I made servitors that 'lived' a longer period to train myself in the process of revision it. All these servitors were just 'training' servitors for me.

About the interval of revision, that was depended to the original forging and programming. If the original programming was not strict enough, I needed to do more often a revision. If the servitor was acting in the personal space of another person, it needed more often a moment of revision. But that were just short moments of revision. That another person in this case was my hubby who has the hobby of renovating oldtimer cars. I noticed for one car that he needed some assistance. The spare parts had been off the car for so long, that hubby couldn't remember in which order the spares had to be mounted on the car. So I build a servitor that was helping in the visual remembering of that. Hubby didn't know about that servitor. I just gave him the hint to walk to our cupboard with models cars every time before working on his own car. And I presented that to him as just a weekly little precious moment. He accepted the idea to do so and that was every week the very moment when the servitor attached to him, according to the program. He forgot one time to do that, all parts that were mounted in that day had to be unmounted because of forgetting just one tiny part. (poor hubby)

(I see above a little entanglement between spirit and servitor, but that are not the same things, so for the sake of the discussion I would make distinction between both)
 

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I'm curious to know how it goes—good luck!

I agree with certain spirits being bound to place or object. I would actually describe myself as such right now! (But not for long). There are some interesting questions at play here.. my answer to 'what binds' spirits to things is 'attachments', but what are attachments? Or, why? It makes some sense that we can attach servitors to things of our choosing, since they are of us; so then how could a servitor 'loosen' enough to access the 'wider' astral plane moreso than a spirit of place—why couldn't, or why wouldn't, a spirit of place do that? I suppose it depends on the spirit, and whoever/whatever they might be 'nested within'.
For now it seem well enough to operate. But the feeding part is a bit more complicated.
Sounds great! I certainly will try loosen the bond!!
 

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For now it seem well enough to operate. But the feeding part is a bit more complicated.
Sounds great! I certainly will try loosen the bond!!
A little practical tip: you can program it to feed on a little bowl or mug with water that you have charged. In most cases you have water there where you travel or with you... or on your first cup of tea or coffee you have in the morning. Imagination and creativity is your tool.
 
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