[Help] Spirit evocation

[Francesca]

I want to learn how to properly do spirit evocation, I know the basics and I also know that won't do. Unfortunately, I live in a city without any type of group that -at least openly- works with the occult, and I've tried to find people in the esoteric stores, in uni, and in social media to no avail. The only religion im initiated into is Catholicism, so I cant learn from there the things I want to. So how do i learn? I know practice is a big part of it, but i want to make sure I know what I'm doing before actually doing. Help

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I want to learn how to properly do spirit evocation, I know the basics and I also know that won't do. Unfortunately, I live in a city without any type of group that -at least openly- works with the occult, and I've tried to find people in the esoteric stores, in uni, and in social media to no avail. The only religion im initiated into is Catholicism, so I cant learn from there the things I want to. So how do i learn? I know practice is a big part of it, but i want to make sure I know what I'm doing before actually doing. Help

Also im a bit confused of the differences between evocation and invocation

 

[SeekerPS]

Evocation is calling the spirit to appear and work for you. Invocation relates to assuming the characteristics and, by association, powers from a deity or maybe other entity. Invocation is a preliminary step for many methods of evocation, since you fisrt have to assume and invoke the power of God before you call and command spirits/demons. If you decide to go by the traditional methods, you will discover the process is much more religious than one might expect

As recomendattions:
Demons of magick from Gallery of magick
Claves intelligentiarum
Claves Spiritum
Aleister's Crowley Illustrated Goetia
The Goetia of dr Rudd

 

[Nembra]

I want to learn how to properly do spirit evocation, I know the basics and I also know that won't do. Unfortunately, I live in a city without any type of group that -at least openly- works with the occult, and I've tried to find people in the esoteric stores, in uni, and in social media to no avail. The only religion im initiated into is Catholicism, so I cant learn from there the things I want to. So how do i learn? I know practice is a big part of it, but i want to make sure I know what I'm doing before actually doing. Help

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Also im a bit confused of the differences between evocation and invocation

Those terms get a bit blurry when you look under the hood, but I guess SeekerPS gave you a solid summary. What kind of experience do you exactly want to achieve, may I ask?

 

[Francesca]

Those terms get a bit blurry when you look under the hood, but I guess SeekerPS gave you a solid summary. What kind of experience do you exactly want to achieve, may I ask?

Something like more intense in feeling maybe? Ive done spirit communication through pendulum with an elemental, but i guess I'm craving that experience of something more complex. Per example I would love to have a conscious experience with Hekate more than just in dreams

 

[Nembra]

Something like more intense in feeling maybe? Ive done spirit communication through pendulum with an elemental, but i guess I'm craving that experience of something more complex. Per example I would love to have a conscious experience with Hekate more than just in dreams

That's I suppose more like what is usually called invocation. I think the most reliable are the Jungian-adjacent methods, so based on lending a part of your consciousness to another personality summoned from the depths of your psyche. If you've done any successful divination you likely already have some practice, perhaps unknowingly. The trick is in that whatever you contact with that pendulum usually guides what questions you as at least as much as what answers you get. I don't know what your prefered aesthetics are, so I'll refrain from making any specific suggestions, but try developing an awareness of the different personalities that inspire your thoughts and actions. Hypnagogic and daydream-adjacent states of mind are also usually very helpful. Now, this way (in my opinion in any other approach as well) you can only contact what's already in some sense "of you" or "inside you". So, for example, not whatever Hekate herself is but rather her ambassador in your inner court that speaks in her name. Additionally with Hekate in particular there is a number of subtle complexities that result from her being a god - a very specific category of spirits, as it turns out - but that might not come into play immediately.