Do you mean is Lucifer the abrahamic god? Could be. Two sides of the same coin, perhaps? That would be more like satan though.
I like your statement HoldAll! I understand where you are coming from.
There was a "heresy" in the early Church that taught the Old Testament God was the devil. The Marcionites, I believe were the group. In our times, Nimrod de Rosario revived the notion in his "Elements of Hyperborean Wisdom," "Gnostic Fragments," and "Mystery of Belicena Villca. Likewise, the O9A has writings that suggest Satan is god of this world.
I like SkullTraill's remark though that "Lucifer as God" can be used as an excuse-generator. I reckon there's a lodestone there to steer by: am I using my belief system as an alibi for personal vissicitudes and/or shortcomings?
Couldn't have said it better.
To be accurate, a number of LHP folks would style Satan and/or Lucifer a "god," not God. Some suggest a conceptual kinship with Wotan, a deity who pursues his own agenda and shifts identities pretty regularly. And, as Madame B. suggested, "The fathers' gods become the sons' demons."
That is good to know. Perhaps I got confused by the title of the thread and the posts Konsciencia made
You mean the bit about the three heads?
I know this is gonna itch some folk here but I hardly consider these peeps LHP. Most of them just seem to revoke the old JCI just to do the same things but worship demons instead. Thats missing the point for me.
There are likewise Satanists who go the full "Satan in God" trip. Look at the "hymns" on the Joy of Satan website. They read like a Methodist Hymnal with "Satan" dubbed in for "Jesus" and a few other cosmetic changes. So you're scarcely off-base.
Yes. LHP is the flip side of RHP, and instead of JCI and Angels, they choose to worship Demons.
I agree with it. It's a huge mental trip and it connects you to dangerous energies as well.
Exactly. Dashiell Hammett noted from his days as a private-eye that most "missing persons" were middle aged men sick of their life. Their solution? Run away, relocate,...and start a life and career very much like the one they had just run away from. So too many on the LHP. "Reject" Christianity by constructing its mirror image with most of the same faults carefully preserved. (David Myatt published a series of letters between himself and The Temple of Set's Michael Aquino where this is hashed out at length. But any 1st hand brush with such groups obviates any need for reading the letters.)
There are other options for the LHP. At least some do not concern themselves with the notion of a "the creator." Certainly not in the Judeo-Christian sense. Others see in "the creator" simply a demiurge turning out a paltry parody of a superior god's work carried out on other planes. (Miguel Serrano and Nimrod de Rosario go this route.) In short, it's a lame and limping LHP path-treader who defines himself by being "against" the Adamic creeds.
But what if we rejected both of those trees is what I am saying.
You bring an interesting point here. But how can nephesh (soul) exist then. It has to tie to a specific tree.
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