Book Discussion The Black Pilgrimage

[Lu_CiD]

has anyone had the chance to read "The Black Pilgramage"?
picked up a copy last week or so and its really fascinating so far, I would love to discuss it with anyone/get other opinions on the Kosmic Gnosis.

aside from that its an absolute beautiful book. I expect no less from Theion, they always make stunning volumes.

im one a cpl chapters in and thus far its an interesting mix of animosity ideas. everything having a deamon and existing in a weave of such things. where God's are like knots olin that weave where lots of strands form a focal point.
the body and soul being reflections of eachl other and intrinsically linked in a way that allot of classical thought denies, saying that the body is a container of the soul if anything.

It would be cool if anyone would like to discuss this or anything Kosmic Gnosis related

 

[Lurker]

I just got it yesterday, so I'm only up to p.44. As expected, it's very literate, and physically of excellent quality. I'll get back you in more detail after I've read more.

 

[Lu_CiD]

I just got it yesterday, so I'm only up to p.44. As expected, it's very literate, and physically of excellent quality. I'll get back you in more detail after I've read more.

thats not to far from where im at. looking forward to your thoughts.

 

[Lurker]

I didn't have a chance to read it today, but here is what I think so far.

I'm a believer in non-duality. I view all phenomena - everything we perceive to exist, including ourselves, of course - as manifestations of the Limitless Light. So, animism makes sense to me. If the desk I'm sitting at right now is really a manifestation of the Light, then of course it has a soul, in some sense. But that's where I left it, I never really considered it any farther than that.

What David Beth is writing about has really opened my eyes to new possibilities. Where I was seeing the souls of inanimate objects as somehow separate and static, he is painting a very vivid picture of the total opposite. He's claiming everything is dynamic and entangled with everything else around it, leading to the creation of currents and knots that are constantly in motion, which I find very fresh and exciting.

I never pictured it this way, and it's rather mind-blowing to think about. I guess my understanding of animism prior to reading this was naive and superficial. I'm looking forward to reading more. It's very inspirational.

I'm also wondering if this book will dovetail with book on Jinn magic I've started working. The latter is a non-religious book, so it doesn't seem like much of a stretch to see if animism fits in with the Jinn. But, that still remains to be seen.

What about you? What do you think, so far?

 

[Voidking]

I like David Beth's metaphysics of Chaos and the abyss, and the very essence of existence being a groundless ground, very similar to the metaphysics I embrace to live my life. Although I do not agree on completely shunning the transcendentalist and idealist aspect of metaphysics/philosophy. David Beth's current is by far the most rich chthonic current I've seen, but again, it omits the stellar and idealist aspect, which he openly admits and attacks.
David is a very nice person and you can reach out to him on FB.


The book is very useful for those who want to immerse themselves in the Chthonic current, descent to their underworld, and commune with the mighty dead.

 

[Lurker]

I like David Beth's metaphysics of Chaos and the abyss, and the very essence of existence being a groundless ground, very similar to the metaphysics I embrace to live my life. Although I do not agree on completely shunning the transcendentalist and idealist aspect of metaphysics/philosophy. David Beth's current is by far the most rich chthonic current I've seen, but again, it omits the stellar and idealist aspect, which he openly admits and attacks.
David is a very nice person and you can reach out to him on FB.


The book is very useful for those who want to immerse themselves in the Chthonic current, descent to their underworld, and commune with the mighty dead.

That's an excellent review. Have you practiced it?

His perspective seems very much influenced by his childhood in Africa.

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That's an excellent review. Have you practiced it?

(Oi . . . my Saturday morning communication skills. I'll try again.) Have you practiced the book?

 

[Voidking]

That's an excellent review. Have you practiced it?

Yes I have included his practices in my own routine, excellent to cultivate the body of shades and commune with the dead and other atavisms.

 

[Lu_CiD]

I didn't have a chance to read it today, but here is what I think so far.

I'm a believer in non-duality. I view all phenomena - everything we perceive to exist, including ourselves, of course - as manifestations of the Limitless Light. So, animism makes sense to me. If the desk I'm sitting at right now is really a manifestation of the Light, then of course it has a soul, in some sense. But that's where I left it, I never really considered it any farther than that.

What David Beth is writing about has really opened my eyes to new possibilities. Where I was seeing the souls of inanimate objects as somehow separate and static, he is painting a very vivid picture of the total opposite. He's claiming everything is dynamic and entangled with everything else around it, leading to the creation of currents and knots that are constantly in motion, which I find very fresh and exciting.

I never pictured it this way, and it's rather mind-blowing to think about. I guess my understanding of animism prior to reading this was naive and superficial. I'm looking forward to reading more. It's very inspirational.

I'm also wondering if this book will dovetail with book on Jinn magic I've started working. The latter is a non-religious book, so it doesn't seem like much of a stretch to see if animism fits in with the Jinn. But, that still remains to be seen.

What about you? What do you think, so far?

thats interesting. I can see why that would fit your worldview for sure.

I've always been drawn to animism in some form or other it just seemed to make sense and seemed to be the closest thing to the truth I've come across. specially i like that Shinto view of things and what I know of some of that native cultures in the American southwest.

I haven't had a chance to read allot of the book as of yet however the threads and knot analogy was pretty brilliant.
this is the first of David Beth's books I've read or started to read. Ill be able to spend most of the day reading and will definitely update more as I am able to.

im a devotee of Lilith primarily due to her coming into my life on many occasions throughout the years. I like to have some evidence of proof of what ever it is that I 3nd up adopting into my for lack of better terms worldview. I belive that the information Beth writes about definitely has allot of potential.

I don't know allot about Jinn to be honest. care to elaborate?

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I like David Beth's metaphysics of Chaos and the abyss, and the very essence of existence being a groundless ground, very similar to the metaphysics I embrace to live my life. Although I do not agree on completely shunning the transcendentalist and idealist aspect of metaphysics/philosophy. David Beth's current is by far the most rich chthonic current I've seen, but again, it omits the stellar and idealist aspect, which he openly admits and attacks.
David is a very nice person and you can reach out to him on FB.


The book is very useful for those who want to immerse themselves in the Chthonic current, descent to their underworld, and commune with the mighty dead.

the book is called Chaos and the abyss?
that sounds really interesting. also I would like to talk to him at some point ill have to hit him up on fb.

what do you mean by the stellar and idealistic? can you elaborate some please?

 

[Voidking]

thats interesting. I can see why that would fit your worldview for sure.

I've always been drawn to animism in some form or other it just seemed to make sense and seemed to be the closest thing to the truth I've come across. specially i like that Shinto view of things and what I know of some of that native cultures in the American southwest.

I haven't had a chance to read allot of the book as of yet however the threads and knot analogy was pretty brilliant.
this is the first of David Beth's books I've read or started to read. Ill be able to spend most of the day reading and will definitely update more as I am able to.

im a devotee of Lilith primarily due to her coming into my life on many occasions throughout the years. I like to have some evidence of proof of what ever it is that I 3nd up adopting into my for lack of better terms worldview. I belive that the information Beth writes about definitely has allot of potential.

I don't know allot about Jinn to be honest. care to elaborate?

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the book is called Chaos and the abyss?
that sounds really interesting. also I would like to talk to him at some point ill have to hit him up on fb.

what do you mean by the stellar and idealistic? can you elaborate some please?

The Book is called the Black Pilgrimage, but Chaos, the Abyss, Mater and Eros are the main metaphysical principles of his cosmology-philosophy.

David Beth Emphasizes the Chthonic aspect of spirituality/magic, that is to say anything that involves the underworld, the ancestors, the infernal realms, the dead, infernal deities, the telluric and the earthly. He disagree with transcendental philosophies like theurgical systems or any system that involves a purification, a transcendance to a higher realm, or an ideal platonic real of ideal perfection and virtues etc.... For him, earth is eros, daimonic, alive, sexual, and real. You don't need to escape to a heaven. We can say it's the matriarchal erotic dark lunar kosmos of Chaos vs the patriarchal solar transcendental cosmos of absolute order, the Black Dragon Vs The Warrior/hero of Light.

 

[Lu_CiD]

The Book is called the Black Pilgrimage, but Chaos, the Abyss, Mater and Eros are the main metaphysical principles of his cosmology-philosophy.

I have that I for some reason was thinking you were talking about a separate book.

The more I've read of his the more I can relate. The only thing I have trouble with is the lack of obtaining another state of being. However I think that's just echos from religious programing and brainwashing I've yet to shed.

I'll have to read allot more for sure but I'd imagine I will definitely adopt quite a bit of this into my personal philosophy and work.

Thanks for that distillation of Kosmic Gnosis btw.