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[Opinion] The Climbing and the descent of the Sephiroth & Qliphoth do not reach the same "truth"

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Mira Malverick

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I think of this topic back on what I heard Lon Milo DuQuette speak about this topic, that by going on the path of the tree of life and the tree of knowledge, at the end point you will reach the same destination.
But is that really true? In retrospect, I think that if each are done so by following what the traditional view of the left hand path and right hand path, that advocate for different spiritual goals, I think that by inevitably following down the deepest immersion of each path, you attain very different things, the godhood that is attained by the qliphoth and sephiroth are very different forms of looking to the divine.
I must clarify first that when i refer to left hand path and right hand path I am excluding the original ones that come from the east, so when i say lhp and rhp it is of the western occult tradition, I say that because people may bring them up to argue what is outside the point i wanna make.
The rhp and lhp desire very different things, and their virtues do not align. On a practical level, many magicians explore such things on a more grounded level, while also holding their compatible selves with normal mundane reality, so things tend to not be taken on the extreme, on the rhp this is less relevant, but its more relevant speaking about the lhp and the qliphoth, because the energies, frequencies and virtues contained in each qliptha are very violent and volatile at their essence, so its normal to find the counsel that those who explore the Qliphoth do so in a grounding level, it is not so different to demon INvocations as far as bringing forth their archetypal forces within oneselves for a specific alchemical transmutation of the self, be for a ongoing change or transformation, or just for the realization of particular goals. For that reason alone, i can "see" how people may then climb the Qliphoth in such a manner and then make a modest claim about each reach different mature paths for a similar spiritual realization, of which i will stop such claim right now to say this is not true, and why do think this? grounding can be mature, practical, usefull, and provide growth and even transformational for magicians, but I think the purest of essence is what speaks the truth of what the path culminates to be at its deepest level, and the Qliphoth through the left hand path self deification perspective is a path that is unapologetic individualistic that at its extreme its alien, its isolating and profoundly detached from mundane reality.
Those aspects are of course part of the left hand path naturally, rebellion is one of the first things you find in the left hand path, but here is why i bring the distinction... the godhood of the qliptoph authentically goes all the way, its not a mature grounding let me take the energies in a manner i can be most practical with them for a cute growth in here and for whatever materialistic goals i may have, the real qliphoth self deification looks alien to anything the right hand path path of union proposes, which is virtuous, which is harmonius, its collective, virtuous and surrendering.. to go all the way in the qliphoth without holding back turns you to a form of deification that detaches you completelly from social contracts notions, culture, collective mindset and more, which is why in my opinion, i disagree that the 2 godhoods are the same truth, the individuals couldn't be more different at each extreme.
 

thytheban

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The argument holds. DuQuette's "same destination" idea is a charming reconciliation that neither path would actually endorse if you followed either one to its logical end. One dissolves the self into the All. The other deifies the self against the All. That's not two roads up the same mountain, that's two people who disagree about whether the mountain should exist.
 

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Clearly I need to do more reading about this. I always thought that the Qliphoth were the Sephiroth drained of their meanings, not an actual path of any sort.
 
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