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The fall of angels

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That’s...complicated...

we have free will but ultimately God as an infinite being knows everything and yes he knew that Adam and Eve would fall etc. if you want to get into really freaky stuff get this

in the Kabbalah it says this has happened all before and it’ll happen again...the earth being created, Adam and Eve, Moses, the Temple being Built, destroyed, the Messiah coming and saving people

those seemed worthy to be in the messianic age become like angels and keep evolving...those who fail have to return over and over and over. How this happens? Who knows, maybe we evolve as a species, technology etc

as for fallen angels..the way I learned is like this, there are different species of angels, some are like robots, they can’t even control their movements at times

others have free will in a way but ultimately obey God...there are no other powers besides God. Anyway the “fall” is this

the angels came to earth having told God they could do better then us, God said cool try it, but you’ll be corrupted down there, on earth they were exposed to our negative emotions...that’s part of the fall of man btw the eating of the tree of knowledge

these angels who were near God suddenly saw woman and wanted sex? Why, because they were exposed to our fallen emotions.

after the angels came and had kids with humans (that’s a whole other topic) God trapped them here, they became fallen. These are what are called the watchers

they are also the angelic princess of the nations, when they fight there are wars...so among some Rabbi’s the Angelic Prince of Russia, the USA, etc are at war

all this is controlled by God ultimately for the betterment of mankind
Very well put!
 
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Given that humans inevitably fall from grace, it could be that guardian angels are the first to fall, as they are protectors and guides for the human. So the human falls, the angel might fall.
I'd like to hear some different perspectives on how the angels have fallen over time, the different reasons for this and perhaps some examples from different choirs
 
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We can fall from qualities or virtues, not be ourselves.

Dialectical Behavior Therapy, Meyer-Briggs testing, psychiatric evaluation.
 
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Well, Ive scoured history ... and Egypt appears to be the first religion. So grace may be an incorrect term. I prefer virtue.
 

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Egypt appears to be the first religion.
The Egyptian civilization appears fully formed - being a colony of Atlantis. Likewise Sumer and Etruria


The concept of grace implies a deity judgementally active at individual levels. Perhaps this is kindergarten with the teachers being the older kids - not all of which play fair
 

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All faiths are stories explaining the cosmic choirs and their influence into the lower planes of existence.

All entities are elemental in nature as such they can be applied to all choirs by their elemental natures to the Trinity as such.

Father -Mind/Intelligence - Angel - Light
Mother - Spirit/Emotions - Daemon - Gravity
Son - Voice/Ego - Deva - Radio Wave
Daughter - Body/Instincts - Ashura - Physical Structure

Fallen or Unfallen is simply the polarization of the entities energy.

Choirs are simply density dimensions and the required cosmic structure required to house the elemental principles of higher and lower entities.

The Celestial Cosmic Choirs

Aurim/Chayot ha Kosdesh - The Living Being - Universe (One-Word) - Ain Soph Aur - Endless Light

Ophanim - Thrones and Wheels with a Thousand Eyes - Galaxies

Erilim - The Strong and Valiant - Blackholes, Neutron Stars and Pulsars

Hasmallim - Fiery Cloud of Azure and Amber - Nebulae

Seraphim - Fiery Six Winged Serpents - Stars

Malakim - Messengers - Planets

Elohim - Shining Ones - Satellite such as our Elohim the Moon

The Earth Bound Choirs

Beni-Elohim - Sons of the Shining Ones - Comets

Cherubim - The Hidden Ones - Asteroids

Ishim - The Fiery Ones - Metorites

Dremim - The Crystalline Ones - Gems

Ethrim - The Etheric Ones - Atoms

Earth bound choirs represent the parts of the cosmic choirs fragmented energies as they interact with the lower 5 densities of what I am told is the soul forge.

Soul forge density

Beni-Elohim - Awakened Humanoid - Gamma Wave Production in Brainwave

Cherubim - Conscious Humanoid - Alpha Wave Production in Brainwave

Ishim - Animalistic Humanoid/Animals/Plants - Beta/Theta Wave Production in Brainwaves

Dremim - Molecular Organisms/ Bacteria/Fungi)- Delta Waves Productioj in Brainwaves

Ethrim - Viruses/Matter - Epsilon Wave Production in Brainwaves


Once one applies these to the various entities of the many faith locating the entities dimensional forms and locations can become better grasped and practiced.

For example I like dealing with Maha Ganesh also know as the Great Southern Hasmal Ganesh of the Carina Nebula. Which is formed from it's Seraphim the Star known as HH666, which is off the left side of the Carina Nebula. Carina its self contains multiple Hasmillim but non as obvious and in plain sight as Maha Ganesh.

Here a Photo taken by the Hubble Telescope Sept 16,2010 of Maha Ganesh or as nasa likes to call it HH666

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Well, Ive scoured history ... and Egypt appears to be the first religion. So grace may be an incorrect term. I prefer virtue.
Sumeria is definitely older, Proto-Indo-Europan religion also seem to be older than Egypt. The latter is a reconstuction, I have a book named Deep Ancestors somewhere if you wanna check it out.
 

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Mu and Atlantis are older but what they all have in common is astronomy. The ancient took alot of effort to aligh their megaliths to the choirs of the stars.
Orion and the Pleadies seem to be the most favored.
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Egypt's fascination with Orion seems to be centered around the Orion Nebula located where Orion's Sword is, this particular Nebula contains the Major Hasmallim for the Egyptian Patheon (Amun, Ra, Isis, Horus and Set).

Orion full structure and other Nebulae contain other High Stationed Hasmallim that of the Burning Bush of Moses known as the Flame Nebula and Selphir with Odin, Guarding Valhalla's hidden door near the Pegasus Nebula.
 
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