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[Opinion] The Lucifer Deception: How a 4th-Century "Typo" Created a Fake Deity (The Sovereign Truth vs. The Myth)

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Are you worshipping a King, or are you worshipping a Latin translation error? Let's look at the Hebrew bones of the myth.
"I’ve been reading through the UPG (Unverified Personal Gnosis) here about Lucifer, and it’s fascinating how much of the modern 'Enlightened Lucifer' archetype is actually built on a 4th-century Latin typo. Most practitioners here claim to be 'free' from Christian dogma, yet your entire hierarchy relies on a translation error by Saint Jerome. If you’re serious about the academic and sovereign truth of the occult, you need to look at the semantic debris behind the name."
Look, I’ve spent enough time digging through dusty manuscripts and linguistic layers to realize one thing: history isn't always written by the victors; sometimes, it’s written by the confused. For centuries, the Western world has been obsessed with "Lucifer"—this grand, cinematic figure of a rebel angel. But what if I told you the whole thing is built on a massive, historical "oops"?

Frankly, "Lucifer" isn't a demonic name at all. It’s a theological glitch.

The "Morning Star" Blunder
I often ask myself: how did a biting political insult get turned into a cosmic biography? The entire "Fallen Angel" drama hinges on a flawed reading of Isaiah 14:12. In the original Hebrew, the prophet wasn't summoning a devil; he was taking a jab at a human king—Nebuchadnezzar II of Babylon. He called him "הֵילֵל בֶּן-שָׁحַר" (Helel ben Shahar).

Think about it: the prophet was just mocking the king’s ego by comparing him to the planet Venus (the Morning Star), which flares up at dawn only to vanish when the sun actually rises. It’s like saying, "You thought you were the sun, but you're just a morning flicker."

When Jerome translated the Bible into the Latin Vulgate in the 4th century, he used the word "lucifer" (lowercase, meaning "light-bringer") to describe the planet. But then, a few hundred years of "broken telephone" happened. People stopped seeing an adjective and started seeing a name. Suddenly, a Latin translation of a Hebrew metaphor became a demon with a backstory. Modern scholarship confirms this: Lucifer is just a Latin word for "Helel." Nothing more.


Now, here’s where it gets really uncomfortable for the Hollywood version of Satan. If you actually sit down and read the Book of Job without the "rebel" filter, you don't find a war-mongering insurgent. Instead, you find Ha-Satan—a divine functionary.

Honestly, he looks more like an Internal Affairs officer or a cold-eyed prosecutor than a rebel leader. He’s in the divine court, asking for permission to test human resolve. He’s doing a job. The idea of a "Rebel against God" is actually quite alien to pure monotheism. I mean, think about it: what power could realistically possess the "sovereignty" to challenge the Source of everything?

Spiritual Plumbing: Where "Demons" Actually Come From
When I see people in occult forums talking about "Luciferian light," I can't help but feel they're chasing a ghost built by a monk 1,600 years ago. So, who are the entities in those old Grimoires?

In my view, the answer lies in the "Tree of Knowledge." Kabbalistic wisdom (the Zohar) suggests that demons (Shedim) were basically the "unfinished business" of the sixth day. They’re incomplete prototypes. But more importantly, they are "misused divine energy."

Imagine spiritual plumbing: when the sacred vitality of life—what we might call the "seed" of potential—is spilled or wasted on ego and profane desires, that energy doesn't just disappear. It becomes a garment for the "Kelipot" (the shells). These "demons" aren't independent kings; they’re human-centric parasites that feed on our unfortified senses.


This brings us to a cold, hard truth that the West often misses. In the Islamic tradition, which I find far more structurally sound on this point, Iblis is the sovereign reality. And he was never an angel. He was of the Jinn, created from the "Samum" (the scorching, smokeless tip of the flame).

Before man was even a thought, Iblis was so devoted that he was nicknamed "The Peacock of the Angels." But his "fall" wasn't a civil war; it was a refusal to bow to the "Other"—Adam. He chose his "Ego," believing Fire was superior to Clay.

He didn't fall with an army. He descended alone, a solitary flash of lightning, to launch a slow-burn war of attrition against human consciousness. He didn't just throw out threats; he vowed to turn our blessings into curses—ethnic strife, systemic oppression, and the ingenious ways we find to destroy ourselves. Every corrupt regime that crushes the individual? That's a page straight from his playbook.


So, while "adepts" spend their nights chanting to a mistranslation, they’re really just talking to a shadow. "Lucifer" is a theological ghost, nurtured by those who need a Grimoire to justify their own cravings.

There is one God who preserves the matrix (Al-Hafiz), and there is one ancient adversary (Iblis) who leads a kingdom of masks. He will show up in whatever form you are most conditioned to worship—or fear.

To those currently enforcing a "liberated" orthodoxy: I don't hate you. I just see you shivering in the "Winter of Truth." It might be time to put on a heavier coat; the cognitive war has begun, and the edge of this Sword is burning.
 

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There are folks here who DO believe in and work with Lucifer, and with positive results. Why are you posting in the LHP sub forum if you dont agree with any of it?

If you dont resonate, cool, but dont think you can make posts like this and walk away clean. I dont come fuck with you about your beliefs in the Religion sub forum. It isn't educational, and it isn't welcome. LHPers walk that path by choice. Im calling bullshit on this.

Once again, you are out of your element here. Stay on your path and leave others to theirs, it isn't hard man. Please keep this kind of stuff in the Religion sub forum, or to yourself.

Like everyone else, you are welcome into the temple, but wipe the shit off your fucking shoes before entering. Some things are sacred here.
 

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There are folks here who DO believe in and work with Lucifer, and with positive results. Why are you posting in the LHP sub forum if you dont agree with any of it?

If you dont resonate, cool, but dont think you can make posts like this and walk away clean. I dont come fuck with you about your beliefs in the Religion sub forum. It isn't educational, and it isn't welcome. LHPers walk that path by choice. Im calling bullshit on this.

Once again, you are out of your element here. Stay on your path and leave others to theirs, it isn't hard man. Please keep this kind of stuff in the Religion sub forum, or to yourself.

Like everyone else, you are welcome into the temple, but wipe the shit off your fucking shoes before entering. Some things are sacred here.
My shoes are clean, and I find no need to wipe them. I possess the right to write here or anywhere else. If my words do not resonate with you, the solution is simple: ignore the thread. I am here to engage in a discourse built on rigorous academic verifications.

Have you actually seen Lucifer? Did he personally confirm his existence to you? Any entity can claim any title it desires, but the ultimate litmus test is this: is he the 'Emperor' described in historical texts, or is he merely a mask for the Great Deceiver who refuses to let a potent name die? I already acknowledged in my article that results exist; I am not denying your 'experiences.' So, instead of responding with emotional outbursts, provide me with data that refutes my scholarly argument. Why this 'fiery lamentation' the moment I post? I am here to strip the truth of the tattered rags surrounding it.

Anyone is free to walk the Left-Hand Path; I am not stopping you. However, you lack the authority to stop me from questioning whether that path—or that name—is authentic or just a mirage fed to those clinging to words that satisfy their 'Luciferian' ego. Is 'Lucifer' a person or a historical label that has been exploited? And if so, who is behind this exploitation?

In Arabic sciences, it is said there were nine individuals who died thousands of years ago, long before Islam or Christianity. Their names are a subject of deep debate. When I conducted research with open-minded, confident practitioners, they didn’t hide behind 'preaching' accusations. Instead, with composed sobriety, they performed a dedicated Mandal (evocation circle) to summon the spirits of those figures. We spoke, and it became clear: there are distorted versions and names that do not belong to them. This practical experience was a cornerstone of my research, and since that day, I realized that Truth is absolute—and sometimes harsh.

Faith must be built on both intellectual and traditional certainty. I refuse to be a blind follower; I choose to be a 'Man'—a term we use for those whose intellect has reached maturity. It is bizarre how some are open to denying the existence of Christ or Moses, yet when you deconstruct a single 'name,' they don't analyze; they erupt in rage. They feel that every word is a personal attack on their belief system. True confidence does not tremble; it responds with reason, refuting or confirming the writer’s points with evidence.

I possess knowledge that I believe is vital for all: there is no need for intimidation or threats. I will continue to write about demons, angels, spirits, and ghosts. I will call out the nonsense and affirm the truth. I never denied the existence of a 'demonic kingdom' on the Left-Hand Path that cares for its servants and allies. But for the sake of scientific integrity, shouldn't the first step of knowledge—even as you step toward Hell—be to know whether you are heading in the right direction or not?
 

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Lucifer predates the misunderstanding. While he doesn't appear in Abrahamic theology, Lucifer is a Roman god, the personified morning star (planet Venus), parallel of the Greek Eosphoros-Phosphorus. The worship of the personified morning star has its parallels in other cultures as well, like Azizos of Arabian myth. There are other gods associated with the morning star that are unrelated to this group, being Inanna-Ishtar, Attar etc.

Satan is indeed a title, but Satan also means adversary. I have the view of Satan as the personified adversarial nature, that operates outside of the stories of the Bible as well (something akin to Eris). Others will have a different view of him.

All of this to say, it's not as simple as "Lucifer is a Latin typo". There is actual history behind Lucifer, and his further development in the grimoire tradition. Also, the personal experiences of practitioners will affect their view of him as well.
 

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Ah, the classical error of thinking. Post hoc, ergo propter hoc. "After that means because of that."

It's not simply about an error, it's also a manipulation technique, which makes possible the use of tunnel scenario, when you get fed (or create yourself on basis of what you've been fed) a specific train of thought you can't escape, which leads exactly where the manipulator wants you to be. But let's not get carried away. Basically, he presents you one fact(?) to ride on, while ignoring other considerations of cause and effect. But life rarely is that simple.

So, you take a translational error, and? Holy scriptures are full of it (how full they are of it!), and Quran is no exception as I've pointed out already using the most important concept in Quran - Allah itself! (Who is ALLAH? The Sovereign of the Unseen and the Manifest) Angelkesfarl reply to that? "Exception to the rule." Brilliant!

Before discussing Lucifer, let's ask ourselves one question: Why is it, that Angelkesfarl spends most of his time attacking other faiths, religions and beliefs, instead of proving his teachings superior by presenting them in full? Instead he begun by giving us some scraps and promising occult treasures unimaginable, then proceeded with brainwashing. I find that disturbing. Like he was using the old method of creating hashishin - give people a glimpse of Heaven in drug-induced trance, so they would be ready to die for the promise of it, when their handler says the word.

Wouldn't it be more natural for a teacher of truth, to present the truth fully, so every one would be able to try and prove it, and THEN abandon their less true or false beliefs? This is the way true Muslim is supposed to behave, btw. In truth what we have here is someone who camouflages as a Muslim, but really isn't. It's one of the many servants of Iblis, ready to pervert any faith, anything to create more infighting, misery, turn people away from the truth. That's the example of a reasoning based on an observation of someone's behaviour over time, not on words alone. The patterns are quite clear. So there would be other topics started with other angles of attack on other faiths and people's gnosis, untill they will be ready to accept "true god". Sickening.

Old habits die hard, eh, Angelkesfarl? Always more attempts to create mindless fanatics for you and your infernal master's amusement. Are you even aware of what you're doing? Were you simply programmed this way? Even when you whine, I find nothing human in it, always means to the end. Like Jesuits. "The ends justify the means."

Back to Lucifer.
So, some king was compared to Venus? In a derrogatory way. And that means we should scrap all the luciferian gnosis? Or throw Venus out of Astrology. It's sad that you think of us that cheap, Angelkesfarl.

Astrology existed long before Abrahamic myth, and the planets were long before Astrology. And Venus was quite prominent in lands where they didn't know of Biblical myth. Like the Americas. And that's only one aspect of it. Surely, you don't believe all Luciferians spawned from some clerical error? Many Luciferians don't even know they are such, they simply embody Lucifer's gnosis.

Which brings me to another thought...

If I'm right about Angelkesfarl true motives, then isn't it the true reason for him to attack the Lighbringer with his gnosis of independence and enlightenment? It's in the way of pseudo-Islamic fascism he is pushing here, isn't it? And he will continue to do it. And if he is booted, then someone else will come to take his place as Iblis servants are many. They may come in guise of Christians, or Pagans or whatever. But it's always the same stuff inside.
 

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Names have meanings. In many old languages names were like titles, it is to the modern readers they sound like some kind of random combination of letters. To say that there was never Lucifer because Lucifer is actually word which means "Light-Bearing", is like saying that whoever has the name Leo doesn't actually exist at all, because Leo is actually word, meaning "Lion". So in some cases Leo stands for Lion, in some cases Leo stands for name. Same for Lucifer. In some cases "Light-Bearing" is used to describe Venus and Mercurius or even the splendor of some people, in some cases it is used as proper noun.
 

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I choose to be a 'Man'—a term we use for those whose intellect has reached maturity.
No, I think you mean 'self-entitled prick'. That's something very different, honey!

I just see you shivering in the "Winter of Truth." It might be time to put on a heavier coat; the cognitive war has begun, and the edge of this Sword is burning.
Wow, somebody spits the truth like hot fire! Let me get a little closer here to get warm and comfy. I hope you don't mind, at the end we are all children of the mighty G-O-D, aren't we?

Ok, congrats, I see you studied the Wikipedia article about Lucifer well. But you are missing a very important point here. Welcome to world of the so-called Western Esoteric Tradition, a place where everything is built completely on pseudo-historical bullshit! Nobody cares, nothing is true but everything is awesome! And most importantly, it's fun! A concept religious zealots always struggled with, so usually I choose to stay away from them. But you seem to be a lot of fun, quite a handful! Ever heard of S.L. Mathers, Aleister Crowley, Kenneth Grant, Anton Szandor LaVey? Boy, you must be new here. Welcome to the Occult, a place where people wear robes and do funny things!

There is another point you are missing, the Wikipedia article about the so-called Jungian Archetypes, 'a concept from
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of all human beings'. Lucifer, derived from its mythological and historical origin, is a very popular manifestation of the 'rebel' or 'trickster' archetype, like Prometheus, or Loki, or the Easter Bunny (never trusted this guy!). Nobody cares for historical accuracy, it just feels good. That's the reason for why Lucifer became such a popular figure.

Yet, the Left Hand Path has a very serious and spiritual tone to it, sometimes obscured by popularism. It's about achieving balance. The Tree of Death to the Tree of Life, the left and the right hand, always working together. Lucifer is a symbol of rebellion, not against God, but against people like you!

Hail Lucifer, Lord of Nothing, of Nowhere and No Return! Smoldering in exile, shepherding your little flock of horny goats! Blessed be thy whores for they grant us pleasures on this tiny little world, full of people like Angelkesfarl, who annoy us with their so-called truth!
 

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Ok, congrats, I see you studied the Wikipedia article about Lucifer well. But you are missing a very important point here. Welcome to world of the so-called Western Esoteric Tradition, a place where everything is built completely on pseudo-historical bullshit! Nobody cares, nothing is true but everything is awesome! And most importantly, it's fun! A concept religious zealots always struggled with, so usually I choose to stay away from them. But you seem to be a lot of fun, quite a handful! Ever heard of S.L. Mathers, Aleister Crowley, Kenneth Grant, Anton Szandor LaVey? Boy, you must be new here. Welcome to the Occult, a place where people wear robes and do funny things!
This post made me laugh :)

And in agreement, I will once again quote the Thomas Theorem: "If men define situations as real, they are real in their consequences"

Everybody loves to have the truth. From the Principia Discordia:

GP: Is Eris true?
M2: Everything is true.
GP: Even false things?
M2: Even false things are true.
GP: How can that be?
M2: I don't know man, I didn't do it.
 

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This time I'm disgusted. Telling Luciferians that their dominant figure is based on a typo is uncovered mockery so vissible that even stupid person like me can see it clearly. @Angelkesfarl, you are NOT a good person. @BBBB is probably right about you. I see it now myself.

All religions are based on human writen tales, either partialy or fully made up. Besides, this statements like the typo here sugests to me, that you didn't think at all about spiritual influence in the matter. If the Lucifer decided to make himself known to the world and used inspiration to cause a typo that allowed him in time to become well known and reachable in the world, it is his choice to do so. Source of the name has zero matter in existence of the being carrying it as its name.

If you want to learn about Lucifer, summon him into your life and spend some time with him. Do not wonder too much about books. One thing that I dislike about Christians and you seem to go quite the same route, is that they know book about God, but they do not seek God the book speaks about. They never go beyond the holy scriptures to see what they really speak about. You know theory, but you don't seem to have been practicing, which would enforce self-improvement and deepening of understanding of self and others. But you probably cannot even take that route, because you would start floating above the traditions of Islam and saw the advatages as well as the limitations. Occult truths are not in the texts speaking about them. They must be experienced. Do it right and you are liberated. Do it wrong and you become a fanatic...

At least stop mocking other faiths by telling them that they are fake paths based on error or anything else that is not truth. Because that is you planting the seeds of hate against you. They will grow and bear fruit but you are the one who is spreading them. This is not love, nor is it spirituality. This is mere religion... The lowest level of anything spiritual. Often level zero, meaning not spiritual at all.
 

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There are folks here who DO believe in and work with Lucifer, and with positive results.
This should be the main argument here. Angel is not wrong, but Lucifer being a translation error doesn't mean there isn't an entity named Lucifer you can contact. A wise man once said, "just because you are correct doesn't mean you're right". A lot of entities we work with in the modern occult practices are probably made up or heavily misrepresented in fact (if you look hard enough, any modern religion will fall apart piece by piece), but if a demon were to tell me Lucifer is real I'd be inclined trust the demon rather than the bible scholars because practice and experience is what matters.

Honestly, he looks more like an Internal Affairs officer or a cold-eyed prosecutor than a rebel leader. He’s in the divine court, asking for permission to test human resolve. He’s doing a job. The idea of a "Rebel against God" is actually quite alien to pure monotheism. I mean, think about it: what power could realistically possess the "sovereignty" to challenge the Source of everything?
The interesting thing about the early Judaism is that it was not really monotheistic yet when most of the books of the old testament were recorded. The idea of a rebel against god is monotheistic precisely because in a polytheistic system the act of rebelling against a god doesn't carry the same weight and meaning.

There is another point you are missing, the Wikipedia article about the so-called Jungian Archetypes, 'a concept from
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of all human beings'. Lucifer, derived from its mythological and historical origin, is a very popular manifestation of the 'rebel' or 'trickster' archetype
While I agree with this post, I think Jungian archetypes are way too overvalued in the occult circles. They are fun don't get me wrong but I find them not very useful. You can say "Lucifer is a trickster archetype, and so is Easter Bunny", but... what am I supposed to with this information exactly? One thing that was always great about LHP practitioners is the ability to step back from the trappings of abstract theology and say "it's wizard time" and it's beautiful.

GP: Is Eris true?
M2: Everything is true.
GP: Even false things?
M2: Even false things are true.
GP: How can that be?
M2: I don't know man, I didn't do it.
Discordianism is a great example of how a religion doesn't have to feel real, grounded or even coherent to be a religion - you don't even have to believe to be a discordian, although I personally believe you should try talking to Eris through your pineal gland at least once after reading P. D.
 

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but... what am I supposed to with this information exactly?
Nothing! It is my explanation for why Lucifer became a symbol and basically a popcultural phenomenon, even beyond any spiritual meaning. He was referring to Hollywood-Satan i.e. in one of his lengthy essays. You can go full wizard time anytime and anyway you want it! I got you and I see it very similar!
 

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The idea of a rebel against god is monotheistic precisely because in a polytheistic system the act of rebelling against a god doesn't carry the same weight and meaning.
This is actually a good thing to point out, Weirdbird.

But Angel, I agree here with others. It is quite rude and stubborn to enter a room with practitioners and give a lecture and state they are worshipping/ work with/ conjure a spirit that is a typo instead of the figure they put trust in and developped a good working relationship with. Every path is worth it and everything is always up to the practitioner which part of the lore resonates with them....what you did here is not sharing insights, it is gaslighting.
 

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@Angelkesfarl
I moved this from the LHP section into General Occult earlier today and it's obvious that you only posted this to provoke the type of reaction you have been getting so far. Do not reply that you are offended and if you make another threat like
the edge of this Sword is burning.
You are getting an official warning.
 

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Lucifer predates the misunderstanding. While he doesn't appear in Abrahamic theology, Lucifer is a Roman god, the personified morning star (planet Venus), parallel of the Greek Eosphoros-Phosphorus. The worship of the personified morning star has its parallels in other cultures as well, like Azizos of Arabian myth. There are other gods associated with the morning star that are unrelated to this group, being Inanna-Ishtar, Attar etc.

Satan is indeed a title, but Satan also means adversary. I have the view of Satan as the personified adversarial nature, that operates outside of the stories of the Bible as well (something akin to Eris). Others will have a different view of him.

All of this to say, it's not as simple as "Lucifer is a Latin typo". There is actual history behind Lucifer, and his further development in the grimoire tradition. Also, the personal experiences of practitioners will affect their view of him as well.
"Your historical analysis is quite precise, and I find your connection between Lucifer and the Arabian Azizos particularly insightful; it confirms that we are dealing with a 'planetary force' that transcends religious boundaries. However, let us transition from history to actual practice: Both the Roman Lucifer and the Arabian Azizos represent the Gateway of Dawn—the transition from darkness to light. This begs a crucial question for the modern practitioner: Are we evoking a cultural mask, be it Roman or Arabian? Are we merely reciting names attributed to non-existent personas, or just debating subjective viewpoints? When we call out, are we addressing the planet Venus, or the entity Lucifer?The confusion runs deep; some associate Lucifer with the Sun as a planet or a location, others confine his influence to Europe while assigning Astaroth to America. There are those who venerate the Sigil 'V', while others dismiss it entirely as a valueless corruption, asserting that the only authentic seal is the Circle surrounded by Pre-Cuneiform and Ancient Arabic inscriptions. In this sea of conflicting perspectives, where does the Truth lie? Where is the Origin?If 'Satan' represents an adversarial nature or Entropy, as you mentioned, then it is a 'Spiritual-Physical Law' rather than a mere persona. In Arabic, we find two parallel definitions that clarify this: Iblis serves as the proper noun for the entity described as having fallen from grace, while Shaytan (Satan) is a functional title. Etymologically, it stems from Shatana—meaning to deviate from the truth—but in the esoteric Sufi tradition, it is rooted in Shayt. Consider the numerology: in Arabic, the value of El (the Divine name) is 51 (50 + 1 = 51), representing the exalted creature before the fall. Conversely, the root Shayt (300 + 10 + 9 = 319) mirrors the word Taysh—which signifies 'reckless impulse,' like the volatility of youth. It describes actions driven by blind rage and wild abandon, devoid of intellectual or moral restraint.When the sages of old constructed 'Mathematical Daemons' within magic squares, they utilized specific numerical projections. To manifest a particular class of entity, one required the exact mathematical and numerical correspondences to construct and then activate the desired being.My question to pastelcherriepie and the other practitioners here: Do you truly believe that the current Roman or Goetic systems possess this level of mathematical precision in constructing entities? Or are we merely conjuring historical ghosts without the true activation codes rooted in Number and Proportion? Are we invoking cultural masks, or calling upon abstract celestial coordinates? How far is the Western practitioner today from this mathematical rigor and these ancient Arabic links? Or are they still chasing historical phantoms behind masks crafted during the Renaissance?
 
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