The Peacock, Cannabis, and Islamic Ascension

[ܡܪܓܢܝܬ݂ܐ]

Within certain mystical schools throughout the course of Islamic thought — cannabis was commonly referred to as ‘the tail of the peacock’

A cadre of Hindus grounded in the broader Sufi framework transmit a certain apocryphal narrative in which Muhammad strains a substance called ‘bhang’ (alluded to be cannabis) with his head-cloth. This, they claim, elucidates the reason why his signature color is green. He ultimately consumes this so-called ‘bhang’, upon which he was sublimated into incorporeal realms of light – being bestowed upon the secrets of the Angel of Destiny (Gabriel).

The angel Gabriel is typically depicted as a peacock in a variety of traditions, specifically Iranic esoteric traditions – although analogously the Shi’ī one (per their own hadith corpus). Vital to this illustration however is the account of the mir’āj (the spiritual ascension of Muhammad) where he pursues behind the angel Gabriel throughout his visionary journey.

 

[Hydor]

I'm no expert, but there is some speculation that the substance noted may have been a combination of plants from the region that produces a DMT experience. The plants are acacia and paganum harmala AKA Syrian rue. This is suspected by one researcher to be at the heart of the burning bush experience as well.

 

[Angelkesfarl]

All of this is pure fabrication and nonsense. Cannabis was unknown during the lifetime of the Prophet Muhammad, and he never consumed any intoxicating drink throughout his life, not even before his prophethood. The peacock symbolizes Satan, not Gabriel. Note that Gabriel is described as the “Lord of Satan”—that is, the angel who strikes Satan and strips him of his powers... If you need any further clarification, please let me know.

 

[Aeternus]

All of this is pure fabrication and nonsense. Cannabis was unknown during the lifetime of the Prophet Muhammad, and he never consumed any intoxicating drink throughout his life, not even before his prophethood. The peacock symbolizes Satan, not Gabriel. Note that Gabriel is described as the “Lord of Satan”—that is, the angel who strikes Satan and strips him of his powers... If you need any further clarification, please let me know.

Couldn't agree more. The fabrication sounds like how for us, in the Western world, one would say that Jesus smoke drugs (Aamon Hillman vibes come to mind). Neither Muhammad (Peace be Upon Him) or Jesus smoked drugs.

It's interesting from an esoteric point of view how in Islam, the Archangel Gabriel is the one who strips Satan of his powers and strikes him. I say it is interesting as Archangel Gabriel is associated with the Moon, and the symbol of Islam is the Moon (in its crescent form) and with a five-cornered star.

Meanwhile, in Eastern Orthodoxy, Catholicism it is Saint Archangel Michael (the symbol of the Warrior (Mars) and the Sun) that casts down Satan and strips him of his powers. It is a reasonable connection since in Eastern Orthodoxy and Catholicism Jesus is seen as the Sun of Life, the symbolism being adapted accordingly (from the Moon to the Sun).

 

[ܡܪܓܢܝܬ݂ܐ]

All of this is pure fabrication and nonsense. Cannabis was unknown during the lifetime of the Prophet Muhammad, and he never consumed any intoxicating drink throughout his life, not even before his prophethood. The peacock symbolizes Satan, not Gabriel. Note that Gabriel is described as the “Lord of Satan”—that is, the angel who strikes Satan and strips him of his powers... If you need any further clarification, please let me know.

You can criticize the belief without calling it ‘fabrication’ or ‘nonsense’

Prior to Muhammad, the sacerdotal class of Zoroastrianism would consistently consume hemp as apart of their esoteric rites as they believed it to facilitate spiritual unveiling. This usage of cannabis was ultimately inherited by the Arabs with the exclusive manifestation of their perennial ‘dome’ – as the narrative mentioned prior suggests Muhammad consumed it behind closed doors within the bonds of his order. Various historians have mentioned this.

The figure of the peacock is largely symbolic, possessing a more so qualitative aspect as opposed to quantitative. The roles it is ascribed to are expressions from a particular perspective; hence why some associate it with lust, satan, gabriel, so on and so forth. But as I indicated previously, the association of the peacock with Gabriel stems from a narration in which he was referred to as ‘the peacock of angels’ (طاووس الملائكة) – per the book, بحار الانوار.

 

[Angelkesfarl]

You can criticize the belief without calling it ‘fabrication’ or ‘nonsense’

Prior to Muhammad, the sacerdotal class of Zoroastrianism would consistently consume hemp as apart of their esoteric rites as they believed it to facilitate spiritual unveiling. This usage of cannabis was ultimately inherited by the Arabs with the exclusive manifestation of their perennial ‘dome’ – as the narrative mentioned prior suggests Muhammad consumed it behind closed doors within the bonds of his order. Various historians have mentioned this.

The figure of the peacock is largely symbolic, possessing a more so qualitative aspect as opposed to quantitative. The roles it is ascribed to are expressions from a particular perspective; hence why some associate it with lust, satan, gabriel, so on and so forth. But as I indicated previously, the association of the peacock with Gabriel stems from a narration in which he was referred to as ‘the peacock of angels’ (طاووس الملائكة) – per the book, بحار الانوار.

I say that what the original esoteric circles of heretics attributed to the Prophet Muhammad is pure slander and nonsense. Nor should we forget the intense hatred between the People of the Fire and the worshippers of the Zoroastrian Tree of Fire, as well as the destruction that befell their kingdom—which drove many of them to outwardly convert to Islam— They then reverted to their old ways after exploiting the assassination of Sayyid Ali, may Allah be pleased with him. They subsequently embarked on their esoteric and overt schemes, becoming the Shi’a and constituting a large portion of them; they also exploited groups such as the Ismailis and the Hashashins. All of them were followers of Zoroastrianism or, ultimately, pagan sorcerers hiding under the guise of every religious movement, concealing themselves within that religion and then spreading lies within any faith to lend legitimacy to their actions. The peacock was attributed to Satan, so the “peacock of the angels” was described as “so radiant, dazzling, and beautiful ” before God cursed him, transformed him, and cast him down to earth.” You must understand this before you go in to spread lies about the world’s greatest religious symbol and provoke its followers with words that you and I are certain are pure nonsense and slander.

 

[ܡܪܓܢܝܬ݂ܐ]

I say that what the original esoteric circles of heretics attributed to the Prophet Muhammad is pure slander and nonsense. Nor should we forget the intense hatred between the People of the Fire and the worshippers of the Zoroastrian Tree of Fire, as well as the destruction that befell their kingdom—which drove many of them to outwardly convert to Islam— They then reverted to their old ways after exploiting the assassination of Sayyid Ali, may Allah be pleased with him. They subsequently embarked on their esoteric and overt schemes, becoming the Shi’a and constituting a large portion of them; they also exploited groups such as the Ismailis and the Hashashins. All of them were followers of Zoroastrianism or, ultimately, pagan sorcerers hiding under the guise of every religious movement, concealing themselves within that religion and then spreading lies within any faith to lend legitimacy to their actions. The peacock was attributed to Satan, so the “peacock of the angels” was described as “so radiant, dazzling, and beautiful ” before God cursed him, transformed him, and cast him down to earth.” You must understand this before you go in to spread lies about the world’s greatest religious symbol and provoke its followers with words that you and I are certain are pure nonsense and slander.

The only one spreading lies is you. You just spout meaningless words with no substance or evidence to substantiate them, while conversely I did. The Zoroastrian faith has provided more to the world and the religion of Muhammad than the creed of the followers of Abu Bakr could ever do 10 lifetimes over.

 

[Angelkesfarl]

The only one spreading lies is you. You just spout meaningless words with no substance or evidence to substantiate them, while conversely I did. The Zoroastrian faith has provided more to the world and the religion of Muhammad than the creed of the followers of Abu Bakr could ever do 10 lifetimes over.

You don’t matter to me, but I’m amazed at how someone can accuse and slander a prophet by claiming he smokes cannabis and attacks Islam, and then say that those who defend the truth are spreading lies. Indeed, there are so many lies that I’m going to drop this topic—because after presenting the proven truth, all that’s left is to get dragged into pointless arguments with you. You’re a Zoroastrian—enjoy your religion, but don’t meddle in other people’s religions to spread lies about them and expect us to applaud you. Don’t be stupid.

 

[ܡܪܓܢܝܬ݂ܐ]

You don’t matter to me, but I’m amazed at how someone can accuse and slander a prophet by claiming he smokes cannabis and attacks Islam, and then say that those who defend the truth are spreading lies. Indeed, there are so many lies that I’m going to drop this topic—because after presenting the proven truth, all that’s left is to get dragged into pointless arguments with you. You’re a Zoroastrian—enjoy your religion, but don’t meddle in other people’s religions to spread lies about them and expect us to applaud you. Don’t be stupid.

I testify that there is no God but Allah and that Muhammad is his final messager

Cry

 

[Firetree]

I say that what the original esoteric circles of heretics attributed to the Prophet Muhammad is pure slander and nonsense. Nor should we forget the intense hatred between the People of the Fire and the worshippers of the Zoroastrian Tree of Fire, as well as the destruction that befell their kingdom—which drove many of them to outwardly convert to Islam— They then reverted to their old ways after exploiting the assassination of Sayyid Ali, may Allah be pleased with him. They subsequently embarked on their esoteric and overt schemes, becoming the Shi’a and constituting a large portion of them; they also exploited groups such as the Ismailis and the Hashashins. All of them were followers of Zoroastrianism or, ultimately, pagan sorcerers hiding under the guise of every religious movement, concealing themselves within that religion and then spreading lies within any faith to lend legitimacy to their actions. The peacock was attributed to Satan, so the “peacock of the angels” was described as “so radiant, dazzling, and beautiful ” before God cursed him, transformed him, and cast him down to earth.” You must understand this before you go in to spread lies about the world’s greatest religious symbol and provoke its followers with words that you and I are certain are pure nonsense and slander.

Thats rather naughty or uneducated for a Muslim .

In Islamic theology, the Quran explicitly states that God sent thousands of prophets to mankind across history, but only a few dozen are mentioned by name ("And We have already sent messengers before you. Among them are those [whose stories] We have related to you, and among them are those [whose stories] We have not related to you..." — Quran 40:78).
Because Zoroastrianism taught clear elements of monotheism, a cosmic struggle between good and evil, a day of judgment, and an afterlife, many classical Muslim scholars deduced that Zoroaster (Zardusht) was one of these unmentioned true prophets sent to the ancient Iranians.

Zoroastrians never did and still do not WORSHIP fire .

And everything would have worked out fine if certain Islamic fundamentalist fascists had not moved against them for immral reasons under the cover of 'faith' .

The initial policy of legal tolerance began to fracture as early as the late 7th and 8th centuries. Over the centuries, specific Muslim factions, dynastic rulers, and hardline jurists began to strip Zoroastrians of their protected status (dhimmi), labeling them as polytheists, "fire-worshippers", and spiritually unclean (najis ) .

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Shameful !

Massive amounts of their deep ancient insightful and knowledgeable literature was destroyed by certain savages invading their land and culture over the centuries. The loss of these texts is the primary reason why the modern surviving Zoroastrian scripture—the Avesta—is only a small fraction of what originally existed.

Much knowledge was lost to the world due to this ... and I might remind you that Zoroastrianism gave birth to Magi which ios where the term Magic comes from , which is the foundation of this very forum - magic/k .

And furthermore ; Zoroastrianism and the Magi played a significant part in the Alexandrian Synthesis - a process where the world's wisdom was bought together at Alexandria in Egypt ( at The Great Library of Alexandria ) - a synthesis of ancient Egyptian, Zoroastrian / Magi , Greek, Jewish , etc wisdom and books ( and yes similar fascistic factions attacked and burned that as well ! ) ... in short ; Hermeticism !

Due to opression the hermetic center of the world moved to Haran In Syria . When the Islamic 'conquest' went there ... a similar process enfolded ... 'people of the Book ' .... 'The Sabians ' . Their hermetic knowledge moved into Islam , vitalizing it and leading to the flowering and advancement of an enlightened stage of Islamic Culture , which eventually led to the Age of Enlightenment in Europe .

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and perhaps take a dose of your own advice !

You don’t matter to me, but I’m amazed at how someone can accuse and slander a prophet by claiming he smokes cannabis and attacks Islam, and then say that those who defend the truth are spreading lies. Indeed, there are so many lies that I’m going to drop this topic—because after presenting the proven truth, all that’s left is to get dragged into pointless arguments with you. You’re a Zoroastrian—enjoy your religion, but don’t meddle in other people’s religions to spread lies about them and expect us to applaud you. Don’t be stupid.

 

[ܡܪܓܢܝܬ݂ܐ]

Thats rather naughty or uneducated for a Muslim .

In Islamic theology, the Quran explicitly states that God sent thousands of prophets to mankind across history, but only a few dozen are mentioned by name ("And We have already sent messengers before you. Among them are those [whose stories] We have related to you, and among them are those [whose stories] We have not related to you..." — Quran 40:78).
Because Zoroastrianism taught clear elements of monotheism, a cosmic struggle between good and evil, a day of judgment, and an afterlife, many classical Muslim scholars deduced that Zoroaster (Zardusht) was one of these unmentioned true prophets sent to the ancient Iranians.

Zoroastrians never did and still do not WORSHIP fire .

And everything would have worked out fine if certain Islamic fundamentalist fascists had not moved against them for immral reasons under the cover of 'faith' .

The initial policy of legal tolerance began to fracture as early as the late 7th and 8th centuries. Over the centuries, specific Muslim factions, dynastic rulers, and hardline jurists began to strip Zoroastrians of their protected status (dhimmi), labeling them as polytheists, "fire-worshippers", and spiritually unclean (najis ) .

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Shameful !

Massive amounts of their deep ancient insightful and knowledgeable literature was destroyed by certain savages invading their land and culture over the centuries. The loss of these texts is the primary reason why the modern surviving Zoroastrian scripture—the Avesta—is only a small fraction of what originally existed.

Much knowledge was lost to the world due to this ... and I might remind you that Zoroastrianism gave birth to Magi which ios where the term Magic comes from , which is the foundation of this very forum - magic/k .

And furthermore ; Zoroastrianism and the Magi played a significant part in the Alexandrian Synthesis - a process where the world's wisdom was bought together at Alexandria in Egypt ( at The Great Library of Alexandria ) - a synthesis of ancient Egyptian, Zoroastrian / Magi , Greek, Jewish , etc wisdom and books ( and yes similar fascistic factions attacked and burned that as well ! ) ... in short ; Hermeticism !

Due to opression the hermetic center of the world moved to Haran In Syria . When the Islamic 'conquest' went there ... a similar process enfolded ... 'people of the Book ' .... 'The Sabians ' . Their hermetic knowledge moved into Islam , vitalizing it and leading to the flowering and advancement of an enlightened stage of Islamic Culture , which eventually led to the Age of Enlightenment in Europe .

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and perhaps take a dose of your own advice !

The general historical consensus leans towards the notion that the ancient Greek triumvirate studied wisdom from Iran under the Zoroastrians. Some scholars, most notably William Jackson have gone as far to posit Socrates and Plato as experts in ancient Iranian philosophy, asserting that their renown stemmed from this very expertise

What I don’t get is why someone will knowingly join a forum dedicated solely to the occult just to criticize it.

 

[Firetree]

You can criticize the belief without calling it ‘fabrication’ or ‘nonsense’

Prior to Muhammad, the sacerdotal class of Zoroastrianism would consistently consume hemp as apart of their esoteric rites as they believed it to facilitate spiritual unveiling. This usage of cannabis was ultimately inherited by the Arabs with the exclusive manifestation of their perennial ‘dome’ – as the narrative mentioned prior suggests Muhammad consumed it behind closed doors within the bonds of his order. Various historians have mentioned this.

Perhaps it was . But the main 'medicine' used was actually 'Soma' and used in the early Zoroastrian stage in Central Asia. It is that drink , actually , a nasty version of it , that is lamented as lost in the Rigveda . Indra talks about how it made him mad and angry and undefeatable in war and ... well basically an amped up speed freak - that type of soma ( the Zoroastrians called it 'Haoma' ) was based on the Central Asian plant ephedra .. a natural source of ephedrine . It was a major source of 'war stimulant ' for the Indo-Europeans that came into Central Asia , mixed with the people of the BMAC ( complex )

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forming the 'Indo-Iranians' ... who later split , with one faction going east into India and the other faction , pretty much being wiped out but survivng on as the mythical Pishdadians in 'Yaz' .

The use of Zoroastrian haoma was entirely different ;

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and YET AGAIN the forces of ignorance attacked ; in 'The Great War of Religion ' virtually wiping out Zoroastrianism , but it survives to emerge again , according to Assyrian records as the 'Parsua' ( eventually becoming 'Persians' ) emerging out of the Zagros mountains and forming an alliance with the people to the east of Assyria , that Assyria had been oppressing and uniting them and eventtually throwing off the yoke of Assyrian oppression and vringing the ancient 'good governece ' of Zoroastrian principles to the world , introducing things like a relative sexual equality , an egalitarial view of Empire , a sport of other peopl;es religion ( even releasing the Jews from captivity and helping them get back ho,e and suppling wealth and support to rebuild the jerusalem temple and leaving their imprint on world philosophy and religion i n the areas of ;


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The figure of the peacock is largely symbolic, possessing a more so qualitative aspect as opposed to quantitative. The roles it is ascribed to are expressions from a particular perspective; hence why some associate it with lust, satan, gabriel, so on and so forth. But as I indicated previously, the association of the peacock with Gabriel stems from a narration in which he was referred to as ‘the peacock of angels’ (طاووس الملائكة) – per the book, بحار الانوار.

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Timed out ... I meant to post this rarity ; 'The Great War of Religion ' ;