The Qlippoth.

[Wildchildx11]

You should read 2 of Thomas Karlssons books - "Qabalah, Qlipoth and Goetic Magic" and "Black Mass: The Sabbatic Tradition of Shaitan and the Sexual Sorcery of the Qliphotic Dark Paths". If the Qlipoth has hitherto been something not entirely developed, well, with his investigation and lifetime dedication to it, it certainly is something much more alive now.

I read one of those books, I should probably re-read it the "Qabalah, Qlipoth and Goetic Magic", it was part of the reading for the Dragon Rouge course I found. Reading a book from different parts of your path can gain you more insights.

I'm going to look for a scan of the Black Mass book if not on the many telegram servers I'm on, then on here.

 

[Xenophon]

I read one of those books, I should probably re-read it the "Qabalah, Qlipoth and Goetic Magic", it was part of the reading for the Dragon Rouge course I found. Reading a book from different parts of your path can gain you more insights.

I'm going to look for a scan of the Black Mass book if not on the many telegram servers I'm on, then on here.

For what it's worth, some Satanists claim that approaches that try to bind and control demons naturally piss the latter off. (Steve Savedow has some vivid accounts of his experiences with this.) Groups like Joy of Satan use less confrontational approaches. (Though I have my reservations about the order's general ethos.) Some groups like O9A and Temple 88, likewise, renounce the whole "controlling" approach. The former is pretty straight up: no control is possible and this is a dangerous business so get used to it.

 

[Parallax]

You should read 2 of Thomas Karlssons books - "Qabalah, Qlipoth and Goetic Magic" and "Black Mass: The Sabbatic Tradition of Shaitan and the Sexual Sorcery of the Qliphotic Dark Paths". If the Qlipoth has hitherto been something not entirely developed, well, with his investigation and lifetime dedication to it, it certainly is something much more alive now.

The traditions age is now, it will develop a lot. Depending on what happens it could influence the future and the angels might become the new enemy in a popular sense.
Seeing as celestial worship is rather new in comparison to the atavistic nature of mans “recent” past

 

[Wildchildx11]

For what it's worth, some Satanists claim that approaches that try to bind and control demons naturally piss the latter off. (Steve Savedow has some vivid accounts of his experiences with this.) Groups like Joy of Satan use less confrontational approaches. (Though I have my reservations about the order's general ethos.) Some groups like O9A and Temple 88, likewise, renounce the whole "controlling" approach. The former is pretty straight up: no control is possible and this is a dangerous business so get used to it.

I don't use binding circles, I mainly invoke.

They can also get through the circles and it shows a lack of trust if you need one.

 

[gabe]

I do realize that it's half-fleshed out, which is why I just attribute it to the regular tree. I think the names of the Qlipha did stem from Crowley, such as Gamaliel, however the system, as presented by Aseneth Mason doesn't feel like a concrete system for spiritual development but it seems to primarily utilize entity work to make up for it.

I mean, the concept is intriguing which is why I read and work with it, but I don't feel like it's an opposite tree.

I don't agree with the ancestral Gods thing, as long as you aren't being offensive, you should be able to work with any Gods you feel drawn to, instead of being limited to a God based on your race or heritage.

you might want to look into Luke N-mason's work. He has a channel called Sephirah Shamanism and has a book about a system that integrates both trees.