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The Social And Non Social Brain

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I've been studying this question for a long time. One problem is that the majority population may not understand there are alternatives to socially generated intelligence. Human beings function as pack animals. Any given subject is perceived through classes, with leaders, teachers, feedback, social status considerations. Emotional feedback plays a huge role.
Yet, some animals are not socially motivated. Cats especially are solitary. In fact, part of the bad press around cats lies in that factor. Cats tend not to be able to factor in their own preferences with consideration as to how to integrate with their family. Put very simply, my cat will jump into my seat if I get up to make a coffee. Cats hyper focus on their own space. Yet, although cats are impossible virtually to train, they are very smart in their own way.
Hares are also solitary loners, as are cougars and especially reptiles.
There is a tiny percentage of human beings that don't socially integrate, or they remain social outcasts. A high percentage of the Greek philosophers were estranged from society. Amongst scientists, Nichola Tesla wasn't particularly accepted by the community either.
One major question is how can the socially orientated brain understand the kind of thinking that doesn't originate from collective, social sharing of ideas, organized systems and pecking orders?
One modern philosopher who addresses this a lot is Jiddu Krishnamurti. Apparently, Krishnamurti failed all his entrance exams in traditional education since his brain didn't function according to the normal mechanisms most people see as universal.
There is a good film by Carl Sagan called "Contact". It shows how one scientist (Jodie Foster) is sidelined by another academic, who knows how to manipulate social norms in such a way as to gain credit for her discovery (of SETI).
Other than that, this thread may not be understood if it doesn't resonate.
 

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One major question is how can the socially orientated brain understand the kind of thinking that doesn't originate from collective, social sharing of ideas, organized systems and pecking orders?

I suppose it depends on how estranged the individual in question is from the public. What information is the individual attempting to share, with whom, and how?

Historically, if noticed at all by the public, you could be placed on a spectrum anywhere from famed eccentric genius all the way to heretic and/or traitor.
 

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I am not sure what the question is or what the results of your research are .

Humans are primates , not herd animals , they thrive best in extended family groups . Due to human 'refinement' ( from general primates ) we have dealt with what you outline via 'sub groups or clans '. For example the Kaidaicha Man , 'Medicine Man ' and others , were part of their networks yet apart from them .... they need their own space due to the nature of their proclivities .... a bit like looking after grumpy grandpa ... but we have a nice granny flat 'up the back ' for him ... and that might be where he prefers to be as well.
 
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Pretty complex box ye opened here - there are so many paradoxes in the minds workings that are no paradoxes at all.

The mind has it's cycles, it's bio evolutionary boundaries and gender differences - then there are social norms, feedback the whole conditioning part. I think it's a great idea to ask exactly in this forum - as occult practices and shamanic practices are pretty much as close as it get's to tackle this topic. I tend in direction of some conspiratorial ideas on this topic too, in the sense of many things, like actual knowledge from human experiments and the actual stage of research done on the mind are in my opinion gate kept and hidden until some forces see some part of it fir for release. So the data we are working with is a mix of manipulated popular sciences, the mystified guesswork in old mythologies and some interdisciplinary independent guesswork again - and direct experience.

I think the answer to many of these questions lies in the dark world of the creation of trauma based mind control - so the nexus of transgression and experiences one can never forget - that makes a before and after, mixed with knowledge about drugs, hypnosis, repetition, ritual.

I mean by that that these kinds of transgressions come as close to the true understanding on how the social conditioning part differs from the animal self in the form of genetic, reptile bioevolutionary selves as the ancient practices of not less radical monk type consistent meditation, tantra and yoga techniques with shamanic parts to it are. Closest may be the Aghori with their going into that which triggers the impulse to flee, to turn away, to stop. Transgressing these parts of instinct - similar to the control over ones nervous system by triggering the survival instincts by for example extreme cold exposure - open up a fast lane - comparable to the most radical kundalini type yoga exercises like kriya yoga and seed mantras - a state that goes dangerously deep into the bios of our physical shells.

Or the shamanic similarly hardcore approaches like ayahuasca, 5-meo-dmt, San Pedro ad peyote - up to the more dangerous even like iboga and datura. These show how the dissolution of some parts of memory and habit are able to reset parts of the programming to make space for new programming.

Similar things can be achieved on a level of government with the combination of certain governing techniques, I'll just paste a quote:

Dr. Michael Nehls describes the process of mind overwriting as a two-step neurobiological mechanism where chronic stress, fear, and physical insults (such as inflammation from spike proteins) suppress neurogenesis in the hippocampus. This suppression halts the production of new "index neurons," which are essential for creating new memories without overwriting existing ones.

When the brain is ego-depleted and lacks new neurons, it is forced to use existing index neurons to store new, fear-based narratives. This results in the overwriting of autobiographical memories, effectively erasing an individual’s personal history, identity, and critical thinking abilities ("System 2" thinking) to make way for technocratic consensus statements. Nehls argues that constantly changing rules and fear-mongering ensure that old memories are continually replaced, leaving individuals with only the narratives that create fear and sorrow.

Interestingly the aforementioned topic also has some parts of it touching another topic of very ancient origins that I wanted to mention -
the meaning of the usage of masks in ritualistic contexts - in connection to the formation of identity - or the dissolving of it's boundaries.
Just like the different parts of our self - work self, family self, friends self, alone self - masks can cut your inhibitions from deeply ingrained conditionings.
You can truly let go while dancing around the fire, also a fast lane into trance, a way to connect with the true essence of our bodily existence.
Dancing around the fire, using masks - these are among the oldest practices that we can think of - maybe even predating the supposed forms of our body that cam before we were looking like we look these days. Also very interesting the creationist vs evolutionist - and where the middle ground is between them, anyways: If you want to explore this ancient topic more I would recommend the book "The brazen vessel" by Scarlet Imprint.

And here it comes, matching the ancient as well as the government topic - the time some years ago had striking similarities to initiation ceremonies - just before the aforementioned part with the overwriting of identity began on a global scale:

According to Truthstream Media (specifically Aaron and Melissa Dykes), the similarities between traditional initiation rituals and Corona policies revolve around the idea that the pandemic response was structured as a mass psychological operation designed to dismantle old identities and impose a "new normal." They argue that governments and elites unknowingly (or knowingly) followed the classic three-stage structure of an initiation rite:

1. Separation (Isolation and Lockdown)​

In traditional rituals, the initiate is separated from their community and familiar environment. Truthstream Media equates this to lockdowns and quarantine measures, which physically isolated individuals from family, friends, and work. This stage is designed to induce sensory deprivation and disorientation, stripping away the individual's previous social context and support systems to make them more suggestible.

2. Transition (Liminality and Fear)​

This is the chaotic middle phase where the initiate is stripped of their ego and old beliefs. Truthstream Media identifies constant fear-mongering, changing rules, mask mandates, and obsessive hand-washing as the mechanisms for this stage.

  • Mask-wearing is described as a symbol of submission and censorship, forcing individuals to suppress their expression and breathe restricted air, effectively dehumanizing them.
  • Social distancing acts as a ritualistic enforcement of separation, breaking natural human bonds.
  • The confusion caused by shifting guidelines serves to break down critical thinking ("System 2"), leaving the mind in a pliable, trance-like state ready to accept new programming.

3. Incorporation (The "New Normal")​

The final stage of an initiation is the rebirth of the individual into a new status with new rules and a new identity. Truthstream Media argues that the goal of the Corona policies was to usher humanity into a technocratic "New Normal." In this stage, the individual accepts surveillance, digital IDs, mandatory medical interventions, and a fundamentally altered social reality as the new baseline. The "old self" that valued liberty and traditional social interaction is considered dead, replaced by a compliant subject of the new order.

If you are interested here is the video about the mirroring of initiation rituals:

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And here is an english interview with Nehls explaining the overwriting of identity with Sucker Carlson:

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Anyways - the positive side to this human experimentation is - studies about psilocybin for example show that these states can put us into a state of moldability, meaning it sould be possible to facilitate some positive change too, if one targets aspects one wants to change by other ritualistic practices and establishment of new routines, changing the physical parts of our life so completely, all one owns, making space for change by will (like for example enabling a nomadic/globally mobile lifestyle by letting go of stuff/ only owning "the" stuff) - these kindsof things, radically changing environments, absorbing the good from different cultures and so on and so forth might be some of the more radical things we can use to get agency of ourselves. The fear programming and infohazard culture is worse than we think, it could actually overwrite parts of us and make us a new being, a pinball to be shot around at will.

Yeah little rant, hop this was some fruitful addition.
 
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"Yeah little rant, hop this was some fruitful addition."

I appreciate the interest shown. I suppose in retrospect my post didn't pose a question. There is one, however, I asked myself and still have no answer.
There is no doubt homo sapiens is a pack animal, as are bees, ants, wolves and so forth. The evolutionary curve experiences lags backwards such as the Middle Ages, and leaps ahead, such as ancient Greece. Very often those who advance evolution are social rejects such as Socrates, Tesla (he died alone with just his pigeons for company), and especially total social misfits such as Diogenes. On the other hand, it's fair to say some quite integrated, normal people speeded up evolutionary progress (the Wright Brothers were really practical bike mechanics who believed in the aircraft.
So, to the point. What does social intelligence do? What do emotions do?
So far, I think social intelligence enables sharing of ideas through institutions, organizations, societies and networks. The problem, however, lies in the fact society collectively tends to push conformism, hoping to enforce a uniform way of thinking. To give an example, Darwin was ridiculed when he suggested the theory of evolution, since at that time people were conditioned to accept creationism. Socrates taught the gods didn't exist the way people thought, so he was put to death. Witches who were hunted and persecuted in Europe were mostly just pagans, once fully accepted in the Greco Roman world.
So, I guess my question would be are there alternatives to socially based evolution? Isn't it strange to think that although society enables cooperation and shared knowledge, it also very often opposes advancement? Yet, if we all functioned like cats do as solitary hunters and loners, could we still evolve?
 
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