Transgender & Chaos Magick

[frater_pan]

If you are an adult, you are doing it to your own body and you are paying for it yourself then fine. And as I said before you'd be surprised (or disappointed) how little anyone cares about what an adult to his or her own body.

Have you ever lived in the truly fascist USA? Where at least 1/2 of the society want to control what you do with your body? And where they export their oppression to African countries? Even in a major democracy in Europe I encountered true homophobia once (admittedly from an older teen on the street who wanted to dominate a boy from his neighborhood) and they are also experiencing a rise in homophobia now, after being on the forefront of LGBTQ liberation.

 

[StoatCatcher]

Yeah I'd have to agree to that point. Tolerance is not something that can be taken for granted. It's something that naturally shifts with the culture and the ruling class at the time and there's a shift going rightwards in general in several countries, mine included. I'd be like saying that there hasn't been a rise in discrimination against foreigners in the US given all the Trump administration's views and propaganda on the subject and the weaponization of ICE. It doesn't matter if the default position of most people on an issue can be considered reasonable when there's active interest and action to shift those positions to either side from those who have influence.

 

[Ohana]

If you are an adult, you are doing it to your own body and you are paying for it yourself then fine. And as I said before you'd be surprised (or disappointed) how little anyone cares about what an adult to his or her own body.

I would love if people didn't care. I would love if no one cared and made no big drama on it. As others have already pointed out they don't. People love posing judgements, harsh words, and even making existing not legal for trans people.

This is the big lie of the oppressor. That they don't care. Its also the lie that abusive relationships posit that the other person doesn't care but if they didn't care they would just leave instead of harassing the other person. Its a lie that I know is a lie.

But if they truly didn't care then the risk of violence wouldn't increase for trans people. If people didn't care then why does it affect finding a job? Why does it affect how people are treated in society.

It would be amazing if people didn't care. I hope everyday that people stop caring and let trans people exist instead of harassing them, denying them a job, glaring at them, and denying them service.

Maybe one day they will but first it has to be addressed how people do and how they really should just mind their own business.

 

[Yazata]

If anyone wants to talk about how trans people constantly get killed by schoolchildren or deported by ICE or misgendered to death etc then make a different thread about that. This one is about transgenderism in relation to (chaos) Magick.