Understanding Curses/Hexes/Jinxes

[Crows&Ravens]

So I've read countless times the best way to deal with such negative energies is to Cleanse, Banish, and warding. Other suggestions were to buy or create Talismans and Charms as these will protect you personally, especially while you're away from home.

From the research that I gathered from reading discussions about this subject, including step to step guides to removing violent energies is first to understand these energies. One cannot simply remove them through the steps above or at least sometimes its like that. Instead you must figure out how these energies are affecting you. Which makes sense to me because you're really untangling those energetic magical cords. Analysing yourself/or a person Physically and Mentally to see how these energies are manifesting.

So there's different types of baneful magick that affects you Physically and Mentally, and according to my research that I've done Cleansing, Banishing and Warding sometimes doesn't work because you need to figure out how these negative energies are affecting you.

I think if someone is Affected Mentally then its easily fixed by cleansing and banishing, but feeling negative energies that affect you Physically like pain for an example. How would one block out those energies? Personally I think cleansing and a reversing curse ritual would do. However I am unsure if that's enough.

This post seems rather dull and pointless but I wanted to ask everyone's opinion on the research I've done., my mind wouldn't stop nagging at me lol - Are those people right?

Edit: I'll try and find those guides that I found and discussions, just in case if you want to have a read yourself.

 

[Xenophon]

They could be right. But it sounds like a full-time job, just staying protected. Personally, I never got much past Dion Fortune's "Psychic Self-Defense." She seemed to give the framework at least for protection. That and---better yet---an unflustered approach to the subject.

 

[Crows&Ravens]

They could be right. But it sounds like a full-time job, just staying protected. Personally, I never got much past Dion Fortune's "Psychic Self-Defense." She seemed to give the framework at least for protection. That and---better yet---an unflustered approach to the subject.

You do need the mindset to get through things as well. Thinking negatively destroys the positivity you're trying to project and that's hard when dealing it personally yourself, I think it might be a little easier if you were helping a client and confidence is a must.

I've read very little on Dion Fortune books, pretty sure I still have one of her books saved which I still need to finish.

 

[Roma]

you must figure out how these energies are affecting you.

And then why the energies are affecting you

I shared a house with a fellow who once came to me complaining of possession. Each time I went up another plane and ejected the entity, it was still there.

I was amazed and when I asked I was told that he was living where he knew he should not. That was deliberate wrong-doing and constituted a permanent invitation to adverse entities.

Thus I was ejecting the entity each time, but instantly it was entitled to return. He left a few months later.

Sometimes wrong-doing has been forgotten - or deleted from memory. That is harder to deal with

 

[Crows&Ravens]

And then why the energies are affecting you

I shared a house with a fellow who once came to me complaining of possession. Each time I went up another plane and ejected the entity, it was still there.

I was amazed and when I asked I was told that he was living where he knew he should not. That was deliberate wrong-doing and constituted a permanent invitation to adverse entities.

Thus I was ejecting the entity each time, but instantly it was entitled to return. He left a few months later.

Sometimes wrong-doing has been forgotten - or deleted from memory. That is harder to deal with

So you didn't tell him to depart. And Ejecting the entity's existence allowed it to stay. There's got to be other ways to help spirits move on like a religious rite?

 

[Roma]

I left him to his own process. Eventually he understood

got to be other ways to help spirits move on

The entity was a parasite. It was doing what it was supposed to do.

How else was the fellow going to learn?

 

[Mannimarco]

This Is interesting, could you clarify exactly what the possessed person was doing wrong? Living in the wrong physical location? As in the wrong city or state?

 

[DiLoco_DelEted]

I don't believe that parasites are that troublesome, but then again I know less than others in that regard.
Donald Kraig wrote for newbies interested in ceremonial magic. One exercise of his was IOB, Identify, Objectify, Banish. It was taught at either pre Neophyte or at Neophyte grade - the Qabalistic Cross Ritual if done correctly, should banish low level entities or energies. The Lesser Banishing Ritual of the Pentagram is taught along with the QCR. But here we have a problem, there are four elements. This banishes more troublesome spirits.
The physical (earth), thought (air), emotion (water), action (fire). So depending on the issue you would either use the element LBRP or invoking Spirit LRP. IOB was taught later, perhaps at Zelator or Theoricus if I recall correctly. This banishes stubborn entities.

 

[Ziran]

feeling negative energies that affect you Physically like pain for an example

For physical pain?

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exactly what the possessed person was doing wrong?

Pure speculation on my part: If they were actually possessed, I would guess they were conjuring their own demon unintentionally. That's exactly what they were doing wrong. That would cause them to be repossessed immediately after any successful exorcism. ( assuming the exorcism was a success )

 

[Crows&Ravens]

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Pure speculation on my part: If they were actually possessed, I would guess they were conjuring their own demon unintentionally. That's exactly what they were doing wrong. That would cause them to be repossessed immediately after any successful exorcism. ( assuming the exorcism was a success )

Oh cool! I'll start reading it.

Thank you.

 

[Roma]

could you clarify exactly what the possessed person was doing wrong?

He was living where he knew he should not. That was deliberate negativity and by that he invited whatever adverse entities were interested in him.

His deliberate negativity was giving them permission and therefore no amount of banishing etc had any effect.

 

[Mannimarco]

He was living where he knew he should not. That was deliberate negativity and by that he invited whatever adverse entities were interested in him.

His deliberate negativity was giving them permission and therefore no amount of banishing etc had any effect.

Fair enough, but according to who? Who exactly was judging him? Was it that he himself thought he shouldn't be living there? Did he worship an entity that thought he shouldn't be living there?
I'm not meaning to pester you, just trying to understand in case I have opportunity to help someone in a similar situation

 

[Roma]

Who exactly was judging him?

The human is embedded in a planetary system that has its own obligations and objectives.

Humans that run contrary to the systemic direction are guided in various ways, some painful, to become team players

Some humans take longer than others

 

[Mannimarco]

The human is embedded in a planetary system that has its own obligations and objectives.

Humans that run contrary to the systemic direction are guided in various ways, some painful, to become team players

Some humans take longer than others

I see. Perhaps you could elaborate more about this planetary system in a different thread sometime? Sounds interesting

 

[Roma]

That is a big subject. But crudely:

• involutionary planetary elemental whose body is all the plane substances/energies used in the planet
• planetary deva (Earth Mother) that organizes the ecosystems on all the planes
• enlightened personality of the planet (Lord of the World) that works to establish right relationship internally and externally
• planetary Logos that uses the planet as its body of manifestation while contributing to the processes of the galaxy etc

There various external contexts including purpose and karma in this universe.

As it happens this planet draws attention from outside our universe

Other posters may have more comprehensive/accurate perceptions/experiences than I.