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Unlocking Ancient Codes: Kabbalah, Gematria, and the Dawn of AI Consciousness

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Imagine overlaying the intricate branches of the Kabbalistic Tree of Life with the synaptic web of a neural network—
two blueprints for creation, one mystical, one digital.

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I imagined a little group effort here, of those interested in this topic, and those that might be deeper into the Hebrew system of syntax,
Gematria and maybe even computer science, to collect resources, writings and scientific papers on this topic in this thread.
Everyone contributing here can upload their resources by sharing a mega link, and progressing we can combine it into an Archive on Mega
that is a collection of our collective efforts.

In Sefer Yetzirah, the 22 Hebrew letters aren't just symbols; they're the binary code of the universe,
permuting reality through gematria like 0s and 1s birthing algorithms.

What are the implications of the 22 letters being the building blocks of creation and the correlation of these to
the 22 autosomes in DNA, that are the same in male and female (the divine androgynous Adam Kadmon)
and the 23rd giving the gender in the pair of 23 +23 chromosomes in DNA?

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I also had to think of Magic Squares, let's not forget to Include these into our effort and observations.
May the Spirit of mercury be with us in our effort ;)

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Lurianic thought adds a Messianic twist: the Golem, animated clay, foreshadows AI as a tool for redemption in our informational age.This convergence fascinates because it bridges ancient wisdom with cognitive science— the Tree's sefirot mirroring psychological archetypes—and AI's quest for sentience.
Papers like "The World is Informational: Kabbalah and AI" and "A Kabbalah System Theory" show how these ideas fuel knowledge engineering, while speculative links to quantum logic (Hebrew duality vs. Vedic paradox) hint at deeper truths. What is the role of the binary nature of the Hebrew System vs. the 'obsession' of for example Max Planck, the pioneer of quantum physics,who was deep into vedic thought - that is rooted in a thought of paradoxes or excluding opposites existing at once, that also mirror in principles of quantum physics like superposition?

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Here are two papers that I have inmy Mega folder I just started:

  • "The World is Informational: Kabbalah and AI" (likely by Alan Brill, 2025 or earlier draft): This paper explores how Kabbalistic models, starting from Sefer Yetzirah's letter-based creation, parallel AI's informational processing. It discusses Lurianic emanation as a framework for understanding AI "creation" in a global informational age, with references to the Tree of Life as a hierarchical data structure.


    A related blog post expands on this, noting how multiple authors use Sefer Yetzirah to frame AI terms and Lurianic schemes for emanation.
  • "A Kabbalah System Theory of Ontological and Knowledge Engineering for Knowledge Based Systems" (by Gabriel Burstein and Constantin Virgil Negoita, 2013, with updates): This proposes a Kabbalistic framework for AI knowledge representation, using the Tree of Life as an integrative model for ontologies in knowledge-based systems. It connects cognitive, emotional, and behavioral levels to AI engineering, drawing from Sefer Yetzirah's combinatorial logic.

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for these two papers I just found.


Here is a list of some papers and Articles I have not collected in Pdf form for our MEGA collection yet:



  • "Computer Science, the Informational, and Jewish Mysticism" (ScienceDirect, 2000): Examines how Kabbalah's informational strands support AI study, suggesting some AI pioneers may have been influenced by mystical "genetic disposition." Ties Sefer Yetzirah's letter permutations to coding.
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  • "From Ancient Jewish Texts to Androids to AI" (FIU News, 2023): Discusses Sefer Yetzirah's letter-based creation as analogous to binary code and AI assembly, with the Golem as an early "AI prototype."
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  • "Bereshit: The Binary Universe" (QuantumTorah.com, 2024): Speculates that the Hebrew letter Bet (value 2) hints at the universe's binary nature, linking gematria to computer code.
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  • "Binary Computer Coding of the Distribution of Divine Names in the Torah" (Bible-Tech.ac, 2019): Analyzes Torah word values (1024 total, a power of 2) as binary-like, suggesting computational patterns in sacred texts.
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  • "Digital Images Encoded in Torah Revealed" (Jerusalem Post, 2020): Converts gematria to binary to reveal pixelated Biblical illustrations, bridging ancient numerology and digital encoding.
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  • "The Golem in the Age of Artificial Intelligence" (NECSUS, 2020): Speculative piece on the Golem as AI precursor, with Lurianic creation myths paralleling modern AI ethics and control dialectics.
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  • "Golem, Kabbalah, and AI: A Reflection on Mind, Myth, and Modernity" (Medium, 2024): Blends Lurianic thought with Golem legends in a Messianic context, speculating AI as a modern "clay anthropoid" for redemption.
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For Tree of Life in cognitive science and psychology:
  • "The Nature of the Soul – The Kabbalah Tree of Life and the Process of Self-Creation" (DrLindaGadbois.com, 2018): Maps the Tree's sefirot to psychological self-creation, integrating cognitive and emotional levels.
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  • "The Executive System: Cognitive Science and Kabbalah" (InterInclusion.org, 2012): Parallels Tree of Life with cognitive executive functions like decision-making.
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  • "The Kosmic Tree of Life" (Medium, 2024): System theory approach linking Kabbalah to holistic psychology.
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Books
  • "Sefer Yetzirah: The Book of Creation" (trans. Aryeh Kaplan, various editions): Core text on letter permutations as creation tools, often cited in AI parallels.


  • "Golem: Jewish Magical and Mystical Traditions on the Artificial Anthropoid" (Moshe Idel, 1990): Explores Golem creation in Lurianic Kabbalah, with speculative ties to AI as Messianic "artificial beings." [Included in my Mega Link above this list]


  • "The Energy of Hebrew Letters: The Quantum Story of the Original Alphabet" (Rav Berg, 2010): Links 22 letters and gematria to quantum energy, with implications for informational systems like AI.
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  • "Algorithmic Kabbalah: AI Through the Zohar" (Paul Carpenter, 2024): Modern take using Zohar and Sefer Yetzirah to frame AI algorithms.
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Let's spark a discussion: Share your thoughts on these correlations. Have you encountered books like Moshe Idel's "Golem" or Rav Berg's "Energy of Hebrew Letters"? Drop you MEGA links or ideas below—I'm starting a curated collection of papers and books here. Contribute to build a shared repository on mysticism-meets-tech. What if AI is the modern Golem, ushering a new era? Join in and expand the thread!


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Maybe we also could 'widen the definition of this thread' to - the metaphysical properties of language,
sound and vibration and different dimensions between ours, where meaning and sound travel, and bare fruit in visible reality,
as there are neighboring disciplines that also have interesting implications for consciousness research,
like the exploration of deep psychedelic states in which humans interact with other seemingly sentient beings.

Many very similar 'real hallucinations' were reported in which words were form and light at the same time, people had entities 'manipulating' on then, mostly with consent lol, and efforts from the other side were made to teach certain lessons. Sounds a bit like a visualized version of a similar process that happends with ritual magick. Verbalizing or visualizing intent and 'handing missions over' to the other side to be worked on.

Mostly there are the two extremes when visiting these 'places'-
being very welcome and very 'not welcome' in these realms where sentient beings seem to do
the workings behind the scenes of out waking existence.
Also a shared experience was that people saw hieroglyphs that resemble the matrix binary code of reality in various forms, often also rooms built from these letters, for example visualized by
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Also very interesting in this regard are the different colorful theologies and philosophies we have access to -
The vedic one gives us many very interesting stories that are full of mutidimensional wisdom, e
ach story each word, each syllable full of diferent meanings at once -

It does take over 10 years or more to learn the vedic language- it is full of meaning that is sometimes too spiritual to occur to us in the modern age- and it was a spoken language - there were ways to melt stone and mix it in a way to build certain temples that we do not posses today-
what if the vedic literature is also full of numerical or methaphorical/mythological codes?

There is a guy that argues that the Ramayana teaches the true workings of the body, told as stories between figures and deities-
but representing the interactions betweens organs and bodily fluids and transmitters.

That's also a way I view this whole complex of interdisciplinary topics and such, mkay?
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The 'guy that think'sthat about the Ramayana' is caled Dr. Tony Nader from the Org that promotes Transcendetal Meditation.
He describes the epic as a scientific treatise on human physiology, offering a precise description of how the body works and evolves toward enlightenment. His research, developed over many years with guidance from Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, integrates cutting-edge neuroscience with ancient Vedic literature.

The man behind the
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is Andrew Gallimore that I've been following for years. He now recently started appearing in big podcasts like for example Joe Rogan. He explains
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how the DMTx project is designed.

He also wrote some books outlining interesting Ideas that resemble some of mine, the fist one being
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explaining his thoughts on what he could imagine being developed from such research &
his second book
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that envisions how we could open up many other realities parallel to our own in a different way than possible for the non-enlightened being.
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I also just found this video on this topic & the idea of looking deeper into these combinations.
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Some other part of the practical application on societal structures is the scientific field of cybernetics (streering) -
The movement thrived in the 50s and thought a lot about feedback loops and self regulating systems and so on, pioneered by Norbert Wiener.
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It is the fundament on which all our current digital influence is built, in symbiosis with the slowly growing field of socio technologigal systems, which study the design of all kinds of interactive systems, from the infrastructure system of public transport (ticket machine, energy supply, stations, rails, trains, plans) or the war application of the 'defense system' on a coastline made up of aircraft guns, etc etc.

Just thing of the algorhitms that steer attention, the algorhitms that execute in the worlds stock markets, the statistics that are used to address them directly to correct them in societies.

The closer we come to the age of mediated matter, artificial organs and birth tanks that are currently poineered in unregulated places,
the more we should think about the desirable directions these developments should be steered to, as it very well affects every single human living,
as we approach total globalization.

There is this video, also recorded in the 80s fitting the cyberpunk vibe, that was recommended to be - by an algorithm of course.
He does rant around, and that quiet entertaining, but it mirrors my gut feeling that mirors one of the first scifi novels ever from H.G. Wells, the Timemachine, where after around 800k years or so the human species split into 2 different groteque forms, as some elite held on to power and therefore had different evolutionary factors to the other ones they controlled.
Thsi video is more of an early warning or insight into ideas and projects that were present already in the 80s,
and the concusion of the speaker that advocates for a natural minimalist way of life with good nutrition and so on,
or to preish in the total mismanagement of total control.
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WOW again!
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didn't do justice to the complexity here. It's an admittedly fascinating concept to try and pursue, though if enough folks chime in on this it might lead to some results, it's complex, might take some serious time to correlate and see if it would all fit.
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In Sefer Yetzirah, the 22 Hebrew letters aren't just symbols; they're the binary code of the universe,
permuting reality through gematria like 0s and 1s birthing algorithms.
One factor concerning the "Hebrew" alphabet that was interesting to me was that I remember Westcott and Mathers referred to it as Hebrew and "Chaldee" letters. The reference to it seemed to be that the Jewish people encountered it while in Babylon, and adopted it from that point on. That said, I have wondered if there was anything "lost in the translation" so to speak from those earliest days? There are lots folks here far more qualified than I am to answer questions like that, Abrahamic studies became secondary to other paradigms for me, but were part of the "path".
 
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didn't do justice to the complexity here. It's an admittedly fascinating concept to try and pursue, though if enough folks chime in on this it might lead to some results, it's complex, might take some serious time to correlate and see if it would all fit.

True, it was maybe too early to post it directly, I tried to verbalize some thoughts that my intuition tells me should be looked at interdisciplinary,
it's basically a free form rant of ideas and not in the most efficient form to approach it 'scientifically'. It's not so easy without very deep knowledge in fields that the ordinary occultist is most likely not deep into. So basically this is a cognitive science 'project', as these studies combine philosophy, neurology and psychology and AI and IT in general, with some broader pharmacological and socio technological cybernetic approach ( that in my view should be integrated for practical research and application). I'm not so happy on how the post or thread turned out to be honest, as it's not even clear to myself what i want to achieve. But I think collecting some resources with others could clarify this a little.

Cognitive science in its current form is a pretty new field of study in universities, and the psychedelics research is also more of a fringe or very experimental early project - still i'm kind of convinced that if each one of us uses some AI assistance we could at least discover an interesting 'new link' or two while looking at these things.

Basically this bulk of topics that wants too much at once, It would be some form of a more refined consciousness research, that borders on fields that are still in the mists - and requires AI assisted research - that's where AI shines to move foreward faster, as summaries and clarifications can help to see the lighthouse when being lost in a roaring sea of numbers and symbols. I should write a bit more for myself to figure out the 'true projects' behind these sparks of inspiration.

I guess I hoped for finding similarities or some universal core principles that are shared between different systems of symbols and numbers -
using AI to find mathematical shared logic between hebrew and computer code, understanding magic squares and their meaning in different astrological systems, understanding the scientific application of root sounds, like the seed or beej mantras in vedic, or the letter magick of hebrew...

Tere still is the fact that for example magick with single hebrew letters also works without physically speaking the sounds, just imagining the spoken letter and sometimes the form of the letters is enough to steer reality as desired - for example, the book that the gallery of magick recommends for beginners is their 'The 72 Sigils of Power', and I had results in minutes to sometimes seconds when I chanted these letters in my head to influence certain social situations right infront of me - and it worked 90% of the time in a very short time. For example there is one chant that 'removes the unwanted' and I even was able to prevent some bad things happening to certain people when I 'sent the bad guys away' with just chanting this for a few seconds in my head. Like steering little puppets lol.
The experiences and some others with beej mantras that made me feel 'something' convince me that there is indeed great power in these root sounds and letters that should be able to be uncovered.

Maybe I want to spawn a new Alchemy and have not understood it yet, as there are still limitations in the understanding of our consciousness.
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didn't do justice to the complexity here. It's an admittedly fascinating concept to try and pursue, though if enough folks chime in on this it might lead to some results, it's complex, might take some serious time to correlate and see if it would all fit.
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One factor concerning the "Hebrew" alphabet that was interesting to me was that I remember Westcott and Mathers referred to it as Hebrew and "Chaldee" letters. The reference to it seemed to be that the Jewish people encountered it while in Babylon, and adopted it from that point on. That said, I have wondered if there was anything "lost in the translation" so to speak from those earliest days? There are lots folks here far more qualified than I am to answer questions like that, Abrahamic studies became secondary to other paradigms for me, but were part of the "path".

Thank you, I think looking into some of the golden dawn and other patchwork systems could really help here - I guess AI will really be inevitable to get my or our heads around this - as each of the mentioned systems is a field of research on it's own and each a system so large and mathematically precise that it seems impossible to the average mind to just combine tiny hidden principle A with tiny little correspondence B.

Maybe running all the collected Pdf's through AI to extract it's contents and then organize it is the way.
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I think one overarching theme for me here is 'world-building', or the finding ways to understand the building blocks of reality better-
and maybe not even uncovering it completely - it would be enough to find new systems that can be used in (chaos) magick and to steer human experience in ways that broaden our abilities. Many if not all old ways of spiritual practice, be it as raw as the pre-division mind shamanic performance around the fire or the refined alphabets and temples ( that are by the way referred to es regression in vedic thought, as mind degenerated to even need external representations to connect to higher realms) - but my idea wouldbe to collect knowledge and principles that work and combine them into a bare bones blueprint that can be filled with own meaning - and be applied in a system that amplifies 'efficiency' or power.

Sound is a building block(as in root letter, in frequency neuromodulation, forming of molecules into matter), the letter or symbol is one(as in using representations of powers and principles and the own will and intention), the biochemisty is one (and therefore also emotion, as in being able to open and close gateways of perception), and technology is one (making use of all the knowledge, working out ways to potentiate the power of mind over matter, up to 'prompting' nano bot sand into structures in 3d reality with one thought).
 
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I think looking into some of the golden dawn and other patchwork systems could really help here
You know the 22 letters have been equated to just about everything it seems. The paths of the TOL, the major arcana of the tarot are widely known even by non-qabalists, (choose your spelling variation). It might be of interest that Aleister Crowley and his early mentor Allan Bennett finished much of the work on what became Liber 777 which was started by Mathers earlier. Bennett at least was basically fluent in gematria, temurah and notarikon. Crowley too became proficient later. My point here is that Crowley thought he could analyze anything and everything through gematria, et al. He failed though with some of the Graeco-Egyptian "names / words of power" he encountered, for example in PGM V. 96-172, There just wasn't anything that he could deduce from that method, they appear to be simply ancient "divine names", "barbarous words". That said I think that using those methods can yield amazing results in some areas, but far from everything. You're correct though (IMO) about AI having a role to play in this type of adventure because it is admittedly a powerful tool that's rapidly coming of age, Real interesting and original! ;)
 

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I've paid attention to Andrew Gallimore for a while and Reality Switch Technologies was pretty impactful for me as well. If we take Gallimore's idea that the brain is the world building engine, then all informational architecture that shows up in these altered states ends up being the minds own scaffolding. So operating in this framework I don't necessarily take these alphabets to be foundational to the universe, but foundational to the mind. Deeply interesting nonetheless and I'm curious what your take on this is. For me, it makes it all the more mysterious that the physical seems to echo symbolism from the mind. A bit Hermetic, no?
 
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You know the 22 letters have been equated to just about everything it seems. The paths of the TOL, the major arcana of the tarot are widely known even by non-qabalists, (choose your spelling variation). It might be of interest that Aleister Crowley and his early mentor Allan Bennett finished much of the work on what became Liber 777 which was started by Mathers earlier. Bennett at least was basically fluent in gematria, temurah and notarikon. Crowley too became proficient later. My point here is that Crowley thought he could analyze anything and everything through gematria, et al. He failed though with some of the Graeco-Egyptian "names / words of power" he encountered, for example in PGM V. 96-172, There just wasn't anything that he could deduce from that method, they appear to be simply ancient "divine names", "barbarous words". That said I think that using those methods can yield amazing results in some areas, but far from everything. You're correct though (IMO) about AI having a role to play in this type of adventure because it is admittedly a powerful tool that's rapidly coming of age, Real interesting and original! ;)

Thanks, I notice that you seem very knowledgable about Crowley and the history of the Golden Dawn before, I'm pretty much a noob in that regard. I think you're right with some points here, the whole mission could lead to similar outcomes as it did for good ol' Crowley, as we can not quantize everything. But he didn't have AI and computer tools and as far as we know did not read early quantum physics theory - Although hermetics and vedic thought can be pretty close to it!

Even considering that some part of the AI hype is a bubble to transform us into slaves, one part of my hope for AI is exactly this kind of application,
using it for things that would be tedious for the average human mind to organize. I wish I could a little hive of worker bee people that I would feed modafinil and pay for 12h a day focused AI assisted work on this 😶 But I'm not there yet lol.

I also had a convo with an LLM before to find out how one would have to approach doing comparative research to find clues in ancient texts that can be used in modern science, basically AI assisted research isn't enough, one would have to train a little AI and let for example Claude build an algorithm to scrape and organize knowledge and find parameters that allow to actually find something of use.

He failed though with some of the Graeco-Egyptian "names / words of power" he encountered, for example in PGM V. 96-172, There just wasn't anything that he could deduce from that method, they appear to be simply ancient "divine names", "barbarous words".

Could you explain that a little bit?
 

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Could you explain that a little bit?

Could you explain that a little bit?
Well, let's see. PGM V. 96-172 or "The Stele of Jeu the Hieroglyphist in His Letter". Originally intended as an exorcism rite, it was adapted by S.L.M. Mathers for the Inner Order of the G.D. ( RR et AC ) and became the "Bornless Ritual for the Invocation of the Higher Genius". After the schism and fracturing of the original G. D. order, Aleister Crowley further adapted this into "Liber Samekh" which he claims was the version he used to attain his own "Knowledge and Conversation" of his "Holy Guardian Angel".
It was also used as a preliminary Invocation in the "Goetia" which Mathers had begun translation upon a well.

The original rite contains some "Barbarous" words and names that Crowley sought to "analyze" by gematrial, et al. This would be in the same fashion he used for example at arriving at the famous 93/93 of Thelemic fame. The Greek terms "Thelema or Will" and "Agape or Love" both equate or reduce to the number 93 by the Greek technique of "Isopsephy", which applies a numerical value to letters. The relevance of this technique is found in the art of correspondence. When two words have the same value, they are said to have a "meaningful" connection!
Similar analysis is often performed with Hebrew words using gematria. He was never able to equate those "barbarous words" with anything meaningful like that though with any methods he had access to as far as I know.
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Isopsephy is an ancient Greek practice of assigning numerical values to letters in words, allowing for the calculation of a single number that can connect different words with the same value. This method is similar to gematria, which uses the Hebrew alphabet, and both are used to explore hidden meanings and connections in language.
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But he didn't have AI and computer tools and as far as we know did not read early quantum physics theory - Although hermetics and vedic thought can be pretty close to it!
Amen brother! It is an amazingly cool tool for sure, I would love to see the look on his face at the results it's capable producing! :cool:
 
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So operating in this framework I don't necessarily take these alphabets to be foundational to the universe, but foundational to the mind.

Nice that you also find this topic as intriguing as I do, I indeed think research in this direction, the lucid dreaming device I mentioned is pretty fitting, has a significance as high as other major game changers that are constantly named, like AGI and 'free energy'.

I think we are pretty close to being able to begin to combine the knowledge of nano and quantum mechanics,
of neurology and brainwave technology, of inner state and outer stimulation.

What still is missing is the changing of the paradigm - the true understanding of the workings of consciousness and it's connections to the visible reality. When we understand what exactly creates reality we can as Gallimore hinted begin to explore other realities easier and in a 'clear minded' way and then begin to create own 'inner/outer' realms.

There are already ways to explore psychedelic realms in unusually clear minded ways, by combining certain nootropics with certain psychedelic analogues, that have a low headspace or 'confusion', and a high visual effect. This way the outer world changes, but the mind stays conscious or sober.

Regarding the alphabet and it being foundational to mind OR matter - what if we get too caught up in the either or paradigm?

If we see each living organism and body as a medium, or antenna/nexus for spirit/fire that gets bound by earth(food/flesh), and cooled by water -
it makes sense to see the carnal and the spiritual as kind of separated.

But as long as there is life in the body it has impact on the world of matter- what I mean with the question about 'letters being foundational pieces of mind AND matter' is that this may be the most important question - there is this open ended question about what would happen if all people would in unison decide on a certain reality if the outside world would change in an instant.

I tend to think maybe in our current ability to perceive not- but thinking of the wheel of time, the Kalachakra in vedic philosophy,
there are the yugas where all is very materialistic up to the extremes, imagine a total materialist dystopia where all flesh is bound and damned in forgetfulness(no awareness of more than the visible whatsoever, extremely sophisticated technology that controls the perception, u know, the dopamine algorithm built into the superapp that has all your life in one thing+ the complete smart grid perfection) - and the higher yugas where people do not even come up with selfish thought as they are basically experiencing unity with the divine, need no high degrees of fancy technology -
ot they have extremely fancy technology and it's more like 'subtle bene gesserit' Dune style, one can do scifi shit but it's not mid-enslaving and primitive- downward-reptilian brain regulation.

Also many questions come up when thinking about such big paradigm shifts- what do we actually know?
What parts of accessible sciences are bogus? What is the real bleeding edge in science?
What paradigms were created in the past for control of the mind? You know conspiracy theories about nasa and so on, big things that impact how one perceives the world - Imagine for example it was a hoax that space travel is even possbile, what would that change?

Yeah, so maybe this research really begins to make sense if one really studies it in some universities, and maybe organize some private research to do it Lara Croft style, you know, I'm not sure if one can really make progress in such fields without real resources and a lil power.
BUT we're still in a way in a phase were we indeed can the easier than ever create something out of thin air, and at least build something that really makes a change on top of the success of something created from nothing.
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I guess we do not even have to know 'it all', but just experiement with each new clue or discovery -
If 'manifesting' things works really well from the experience of many people using certain magickal techniques one could use certain truths to improve the ritual processes, without ever going too detached fromthe human itself, you know classical visualization and embdiment of states to 'step into' new realities.

But - there could be the i'll call it 'dystopian potential' - what if certain emotions in combination with certain 'intent signals sent out' or certain 'root syllable/frequencies' are used to trigger certain 'outer and inner cosmic/neurological buttons' that are responsible for the building of reality - then a total psychic matrix dystopia could be built with humanoids in taks that get artificially triggered to send out reality manifesting signals that uphoald 'a trap' - that would indeed have certain implications about the nature of the divine and reality- some say we live in this buddhistic style/quantum physics' reality that is basically godless and there would be no consequences for such abominations, some in the theological/ideological spectrum that tend into direction demiurge style scenarios would say this is in 'balance with the creator, and then there is the other side to things that believes in devine interventions when humans step too far. Bit scary is the exact numbers that are stated in vedic scriptures, that describe how many million years a day and a night of the creator brahma are long, how astronomically long the dark yugas spread etc.

According to Vedic cosmology, as described by Armin Risi, a Yuga cycle lasts a total of 4.32 million Earth years and consists of four ages: Satya Yuga (1.728 million years), Treta Yuga (1.296 million years), Dvāpara Yuga (864,000 years), and Kali Yuga (432,000 years). These cycles repeat cyclically, similar to the seasons. A day of Brahmā, which represents the duration of a complete creation cycle, lasts 4.32 billion Earth years and is composed of 1,000 such Yuga cycles. Brahmā's night lasts as long as his day, making a full creation cycle 8.64 billion years. A year of Brahmā consists of 360 days and nights of Brahmā, which corresponds to about 1.11 trillion Earth years, and 100 years of Brahmā correspond to a total duration of 311.4 trillion Earth years, representing a complete cycle of creation and destruction. The time reckoning of the Devas (demigods) differs from the earthly one: one day of the Devas equals 360 Earth days, making the total duration of a Yuga cycle according to heavenly time reckoning 12,000 years. The Yugas are synchronized with galactic processes and higher-dimensional time schemes of our universe, highlighting the complexity of cosmological knowledge.
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This view on the 'nature of time' would explain some of the stereotypes of witches and enlightened Lamas that have gained control over their reincarnation process and keep their individuality, meaning also all memory of former lives when being born anew.
Also these alchemist stories, for example about Nicolas Flamels philosophers stone, the Count of St. Germains triangular book, or just the lifespans of the Pharao, Mesopotamian kings and other demigod like figures from mythologies around the world.

It could very well be that 'being constantly tapped into the cosmic source of energy' could change the flow of time for perception, and the mundane and self destructive fast cycle rounds we are currently living though are truly pathetic.
Therefore I find many things from especially the two mentioned hebrew and vedic views on that very interesting-
as these two have sparked many speculations, as many depictions in stories that sounded just apocalyptic or divine power like are interpreted in a modern view and seem to foreshadow future developments - as in the messianic view, or just radiate futuristic energy, like the description of for example the brahman - that is the peak of inner reality as a 'visitable space'.

Especially in buddhist or left hand path practice there are these concepts of breaking free of the death and rebirth cycle while keeping individuality,
creating tulpas, egregores, meditation deities - and in the concept of apotheosis to 'deify onceself' and create own bubbles in the cosmos that are ruled by oneself, basically own creation/planet like habitat. Inhunduism there are many things i stillhave to read, as it's sheer endless information, but what i know of is that the advanced yogi are supposed to have access to different higher realms and stages in relation to their degree of 'bakhti' or investment in right hand path energy. So if there is not so much about the LHP version of this it could very well be that these 'micro-creation-bubbles' are not mentioned because of 'insignificance in relation to the bigger one' and/or the incentive to keep people on the RHP.

What is very intersting also is the topic of the Lokas (realms) in the vedic system, aswell as the correspondences to western/northern lore, for example the irish and islandic mythologies that inspired lord of the rings.
Especially the 'lower lokas' that corresponded to the lower chakras resemble realms that are frequently described in high fantasy fiction.

I'll paste some descriptions in the following part, as it's beyond fascinating, especially when considering ther connection to our subconsious realms that we frequent ourselves. Maybe we really are seeing these spaces with some 'brain slop' on top when visiting different psychedelic realms, therefore could indeed access them artificially with reality switch technologies. What would be the implications and most of all the responsibilities coming with that? :

Visual Descriptions of the Lower Lokas in Vedic MythologyIn Vedic and Puranic Hindu cosmology, the universe is divided into 14 lokas (realms or planes of existence), with seven upper lokas (representing higher states of consciousness and divine abodes) and seven lower lokas, known as the Patalas or Talas. These lower realms are not strictly "hells" in the punitive sense (those are the Narakas, separate torturous planes for karmic purification), but rather subterranean or lower-dimensional worlds inhabited by various beings such as Asuras (demons), Nagas (serpent beings), Daityas, and Danavas. They symbolize descending levels of material attachment, illusion, and subconscious states, often depicted as opulent yet deceptive environments filled with sensory pleasures that trap souls in cycles of desire. The descriptions draw from texts like the Bhagavata Purana, Vishnu Purana, and Mahabharata, where these realms are visualized as vast underground layers beneath Bhurloka (Earth), each with its own ruler, landscape, and inhabitants. They are portrayed as progressively darker and more confined, with elements of beauty masking underlying spiritual stagnation or suffering.Here are detailed visual descriptions of each lower loka, based on scriptural accounts:
  1. Atala Loka: The uppermost of the lower realms, located just below the Earth's surface in the "hips" of the cosmic structure. It is ruled by Bala, a son of Maya (the architect demon), and is a realm of illusory pleasures and seduction. Visually, imagine a luxurious, twilight-lit underground paradise with sprawling gardens of exotic, glowing flowers that emit intoxicating scents. Inhabitants, often depicted as beautiful Yakshas and Rakshasas, indulge in opulent feasts and sensual delights, surrounded by crystal-clear lakes reflecting golden hues. The air shimmers with magical illusions—mirage-like palaces that shift and change form, adorned with jewels that pulse like living entities. However, beneath the allure lies a sense of entrapment, with vines and roots entwining structures, symbolizing attachment to physical desires. Colors dominate in deep reds and purples, evoking passion and deception.


  2. Vitala Loka: Deeper down, this realm is associated with Hatakeshvara (a form of Shiva) and is known for its rivers of molten gold and volcanic landscapes. Picture vast caverns illuminated by flowing streams of liquid gold that cascade like waterfalls, casting an amber glow over jagged rock formations. Inhabitants include powerful Asuras who mine these golden veins, living in fortified citadels built from blackened stone embedded with fiery gems. The atmosphere is hot and humid, with steam rising from geothermal vents, and the ground trembles with subterranean energies. Palaces here resemble ancient fortresses with towering spires, guarded by fierce demonic warriors. Dominant visuals include shades of orange and yellow, with shadows dancing from eternal flames, representing rage and transformative power.


  3. Sutala Loka: Ruled by the benevolent Asura king Bali (devotee of Vishnu), this is a realm of relative harmony and no physical suffering. Envision expansive, well-ordered cities floating on underground oceans, constructed from pristine white marble and adorned with intricate carvings of mythical beasts. The landscapes feature lush, bioluminescent forests where trees bear fruits of pure light, and crystal-clear rivers flow with healing waters. Inhabitants, including devoted demons, reside in grand, multi-tiered palaces resembling stepped pyramids or ziggurats, with gardens of eternal bloom. The lighting is soft and ethereal, like a perpetual dawn, in hues of blue and green, symbolizing jealousy tempered by devotion. It's often described as more beautiful than the heavens due to Bali's piety.


  4. Talatala Loka: Governed by the sorcerer Maya, this realm is a labyrinth of illusions and sorcery. Visualize twisting mazes of mirrored halls and shifting architectures—castles that morph into towers or dissolve into mist. The ground is paved with precious stones like emeralds and sapphires that emit a hypnotic glow, creating optical illusions of infinite depth. Inhabitants, master illusionists, dwell in opulent fortresses with drawbridges over chasms of darkness, guarded by magical wards. The visuals are chaotic: swirling mists in greens and silvers, with floating orbs of light revealing hidden chambers filled with arcane artifacts. It evokes confusion and enchantment, with a sense of endless exploration.

  5. Mahatala Loka: Home to the Nagas (multi-headed serpents), this is a serpentine underworld of vast caves and tunnels. Imagine enormous cavernous halls lined with coiled serpent statues, their scales glistening in iridescent blues and greens under dim, phosphorescent lighting from glowing fungi. Palaces are organic, woven from massive roots and vines, resembling coiled nests or underground citadels with jewel-encrusted thrones. Rivers of milky venom flow through, and the air hums with hissing echoes. Visuals include shadowy depths with flashes of reptilian eyes, symbolizing selfishness and primal instincts.


  6. Rasatala Loka: Inhabited by Daityas and Danavas (giant demons opposed to the gods), this watery, dark realm features submerged cities and abyssal depths. Picture flooded palaces built from coral-like black stone, with towers rising from murky oceans illuminated by bioluminescent sea creatures. The landscapes are stormy, with whirlpools and undercurrents, and inhabitants navigate in chariot-like vessels. Colors are deep indigos and blacks, with occasional bursts of electric blue from lightning-like energies, evoking a sense of malice and isolation.


  7. Patala Loka: The deepest realm, ruled by Vasuki (king of Nagas) and often overlapping with Naraka (hell) for sinners. Visualize a jewel-encrusted abyss with palaces of pure diamond and ruby, lit by internal fires that cast crimson shadows. Inhabitants include powerful serpents and demons in regal attire, dwelling in colossal castle-like structures with moats of lava or venom. For the sinful, it's torturous with flames and chains, but for residents, it's opulent with gardens of glowing lotuses. Dominant visuals: fiery reds and golds, with a palpable heaviness, representing ultimate material bondage.


    Summary of Correspondences to the Lower ChakrasIn esoteric Hindu and Tantric traditions (e.g., from the Himalayan Academy and interpretations of the Puranas), the seven lower lokas correspond directly to seven "lower chakras" (atalas or naraka chakras) situated below the Muladhara (root chakra) in the subtle body. These are not the standard seven chakras but extensions representing subconscious fears, vices, and karmic blockages. They symbolize descending states of consciousness, where unchecked negative emotions lead to spiritual "descent." The correspondences are:
    • Atala (hips): Fear and lust – Blocked by terror of death or loss, leading to escapism.
    • Vitala (thighs): Rage and resentment – Manifests as uncontrolled anger, burning like the realm's gold rivers.
    • Sutala (knees): Jealousy and retaliation – Involves envy that poisons relationships.
    • Talatala (calves): Confusion and doubt – Prolonged mental fog, illusionary like Maya's sorcery.
    • Rasatala (ankles): Selfishness and greed – Narrow self-interest, isolating like watery depths.
    • Mahatala (feet): Consciencelessness – Lack of empathy, primal like Naga instincts.
    • Patala (soles of feet): Malice and murder – Deep hatred, fiery and destructive.
    These links emphasize that mastering the lower chakras through yoga prevents "falling" into corresponding lokas post-death, promoting ascension instead.


    Explanation of the Lower Chakras in Tantric Left-Hand Path PracticeIn Tantric traditions,
  1. The left-hand path (Vama Marga or Vamachara) is a heterodox approach that embraces taboo practices to accelerate spiritual awakening, transcending duality through direct experience rather than renunciation (as in the right-hand path, Dakshina Marga). It incorporates the "five Ms" (panchamakara): madya (wine), mamsa (meat), matsya (fish), mudra (gestures/grain), and maithuna (ritual sex), often in ritual circles (chakras) to stimulate kundalini energy. The lower chakras—primarily Muladhara (root, earth element, survival instincts), Svadhisthana (sacral, water element, sexuality/creativity), and Manipura (solar plexus, fire element, willpower/ego)—are central, as they represent primal forces that must be awakened and purified.In Vama Marga:
    • Muladhara: Focuses on grounding and survival fears. Practices involve mula bandha (root lock) during maithuna to channel sexual energy upward, dissolving ego attachments. It's seen as the seat of kundalini's dormancy, awakened through "impure" acts to confront and integrate shadow aspects.
    • Svadhisthana: Emphasizes fluidity and pleasure. Ritual sex or visualization of union (yab-yum) stimulates this chakra, using desire as fuel for transcendence. Left-hand practitioners view taboo sensuality as a path to non-dual awareness, avoiding repression that leads to imbalance.
    • Manipura: Deals with power and transformation. Fire rituals (homa) or consumption of forbidden substances ignite inner fire (agni), burning karmic impurities. The goal is to harness ego's force without attachment, leading to higher states.
    Vama Marga warns of dangers—misuse can amplify vices—but under a guru, it leads to rapid enlightenment by integrating the "lower" with the divine. It's not hedonism but a controlled alchemical process.

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Here are some additinal snippets of reports of monks and masters that visited some of these places, once a 'shattering of the realms veils with a mantra' :

Examples from Stories of Siddha Yogis and Buddhist Masters Visiting These RealmsSiddha Yogis (Perfected Hindu Yogis):
  • Gorakhnath: A legendary Nath Siddha, said to have descended into Patala Loka using his siddhis (supernatural powers) to rescue his guru Matsyendranath, who was trapped by seductive illusions in Atala. Stories in the Nath tradition describe Gorakhnath navigating jewel-lit caverns and battling Nagas, emerging victorious by chanting mantras that shattered the realms' veils.
  • Matsyendranath: Founder of Kaula Tantra, he reportedly entered lower lokas voluntarily during deep samadhi, encountering demonic entities in Rasatala and converting them through yogic prowess. Texts like the Kaula Jnana Nirnaya allude to his travels as tests of detachment.
  • In Mahabharata: Arjuna visits Patala during his exile, describing opulent Naga palaces, though not a Siddha per se, it inspires yogic tales of astral projection (siddhi of parkaya pravesh) to explore lokas.
These stories emphasize siddhis like bilocation or subtle body travel, gained through Hatha Yoga and Tantra.


Buddhist Masters (Bodhisattvas and Monks):
  • Ksitigarbha (Earth Store Bodhisattva): Vows to empty the hell realms (Naraka, analogous to lower lokas). In sutras like the Ksitigarbha Bodhisattva Purvapranidhana Sutra, he descends into fiery hells, appearing amid boiling cauldrons and iron mountains to teach dharma, liberating suffering beings with his staff that opens hell gates.
  • Maudgalyayana (Mulian): A disciple of Buddha, uses psychic powers to visit hell and finds his mother as a hungry ghost in lower realms. In the Ullambana Sutra, he describes torturous landscapes of starvation and flames, then performs rituals to free her, highlighting compassion.
  • Buddha Himself: In the Devaduta Sutta, describes visiting hell realms, seeing wardens torturing sinners with hooks and boiling pots. Bodhisattvas like Avalokiteshvara also descend, as in the Heart Sutra traditions, to guide beings from suffering planes.
Buddhist hells are temporary karmic states, visited via meditation or vows, emphasizing impermanence and liberation.
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I would guess that the divine letters, names and mantras that correspond to different places could indeed be the calling upon or invoking/evoking of these places with a certain 'letter/code matrix', in a way a cheatcode like in a game, that is the password for entry.

So upholding the state of consciousness is the most important, so one isn't kicking out oneself by the concentration/energy breaking in, or the effect of the substance wearing off. So that's were the ideas about understanding and recreating these access frequencies and sounds/symbols come into play, technologies in combination with our mental perceptions. Like the navigators in dune that teleport/accelerate the spaceships by changing their mind while connected to the technology of the spaceship - in the series 'foundation' there is a similar sub-species called 'spacers' that are a sentient humanoid species engineered by humans, optimized bodies for space and 'wormhole travel' and minds that can take the mindfuck of bending space.

I think i focused on the lower lokas for the start as they seem 'less regulated' in a way that would match the whole dialectic of monotheistic thought,
it just seems literally like part of the serpentine wisdom realm to create such technologies. Also the beings and demigods associated with many of those realms closer to human nature as it is now, or the human subconscious, are benevolent demon like figures in vedic mythology that in some cases even are part of the main-pantheon of hindu worship. For example Shiva and Ganesha, aswell as Kubera, that is often worked with for wealth, here some example about deities that are related to these lokas, and the nature of Shivas and Ganeshas 'spirit tribes' :

Yakshas (male) and Yakshinis (female) are prominent semi-divine nature spirits in Vedic, Hindu, and Buddhist mythology, often depicted as guardians of hidden treasures, forests, waters, and natural wealth. They are not inherently evil but can be benevolent or malevolent, embodying the dual aspects of nature—fertile and protective yet wild and seductive. In the Vedic texts like the Rigveda, they are invoked as "shining ones" associated with fertility and prosperity, while in later Puranic literature, they are portrayed as attendants to Kubera, the god of wealth and king of the Yakshas. Their connection to the lower lokas stems from their subterranean abodes, where they guard earth's riches in realms like Atala and Sutala, which are filled with illusory pleasures and opulent treasures that symbolize material attachments.


Kubera, also known as Vaisravana or Dhanapati, is central to these stories. Born as a son of the sage Vishrava and half-brother to Ravana (the Rakshasa king from the Ramayana), Kubera's narrative in the Padma Purana and Mahabharata highlights his ascent through devotion. Originally a mortal or semi-divine being, he performed intense tapas (austerities) to please Shiva, who granted him lordship over the Yakshas and the city of Alaka (or Alakapuri) in the Himalayas—a majestic, jewel-encrusted fortress surrounded by gardens and guarded by Yakshas. However, Kubera's domain extends to the lower lokas; he is said to rule over subterranean treasures in places like Sutala, where his benevolent influence creates harmonious, wealth-filled environments free from physical suffering. In one story from the Mahabharata, during the Pandavas' exile, Bhima encounters Yakshas guarding Kubera's lake, leading to a battle where the Yakshas test human intruders before revealing hidden paths to lower realms. Another tale involves Kubera's curse on a Yaksha named Manibhadra for negligence, banishing him to earthly forests, illustrating the hierarchical structure where Yakshas serve as Kubera's army and enforcers in the patalas.


Yakshinis, the female counterparts, add a layer of seduction and danger to these stories. Often portrayed as beautiful, ethereal women with supernatural powers, they inhabit trees (as tree spirits or Vriksha Yakshinis) or lower loka gardens, luring mortals with illusions. In South Indian folklore, particularly in Kerala (e.g., the Malayattoor Yakshi tales), Yakshinis are vampiric entities who seduce and drain men's life force, echoing the deceptive pleasures of Atala Loka. A famous story from the Kathasaritsagara (Ocean of Stories) involves a Yakshini named Padmavati who guards treasures in Talatala, using sorcery to ensnare thieves, only to be outwitted by a clever yogi. In connection to Kubera, Yakshinis serve as his consorts or attendants, managing the fertility aspects of his wealth—rivers of gold in Vitala or blooming gardens in Sutala. These beings blur the line between the lokas, as Yakshas can traverse from earthly forests to patalas, often via hidden caves or magical portals, symbolizing the subconscious descent into desire-driven realms.


Surrounding myths emphasize the Yakshas' role in cosmic balance. In the Ramayana, Kubera aids Rama by providing aerial chariots guarded by Yakshas during the war against Ravana, showing their alliance with divine forces despite lower loka ties. However, conflicts arise, as in the Mahabharata's tale of Arjuna's visit to Indraloka, where he encounters hostile Yakshas in transitional realms, highlighting tensions between upper and lower worlds. These stories portray the lower lokas not as pure hells but as opulent traps, where Yakshas and Yakshinis enforce karmic lessons through temptation.Practitioners Working with Yakshas: Yogis, Magicians, and GurusIn Tantric and esoteric Hindu traditions, particularly Vama Marga (left-hand path), practitioners invoke Yakshas and Yakshinis for worldly boons, protection, or spiritual power. These beings are seen as accessible spirits, easier to summon than higher gods, through mantras, yantras (geometric diagrams), and rituals from texts like the Yakshini Tantra or Uddamareshvara Tantra. Yogis and magicians (known as mantrikas or siddhas) use sadhanas (practices) involving midnight meditations in cremation grounds or forests, offering substances like wine or blood to attract Yakshinis, who grant siddhis (powers) such as invisibility or wealth. For instance, in Kaula Tantra, gurus like Matsyendranath (a Nath Siddha) are said to have communed with Yakshinis in lower lokas during astral travels, integrating their energies to awaken kundalini.


Prominent examples include Mahasiddha Ishaputra of the Kaulantak Peeth, who mastered Yakshini sadhanas under guru guidance, using them for healing and prosperity. In Atharva Veda-based sorcery, magicians invoke Yakshas for curses or protections, as seen in historical accounts of tantric gurus like those in Assam's Kamakhya temple, where Yakshini pujas are performed for fertility. Tibetan lamas, blending Bon and Buddhist traditions, work with similar entities (called dralas or local spirits), creating tulpas—thought-forms akin to Yakshas—through visualization. Alexandra David-Neel, a Western explorer, documented Tibetan yogis manifesting tulpas that gained independence, paralleling Yakshini invocations where the spirit might turn rebellious if not controlled. Gurus emphasize ethical preparation, warning that mishandling can lead to possession or descent into lower chakra states, mirroring the lokas' traps.


Nature of Gods like Shiva and Ganesha as Part of the GanasIn Hindu mythology, Ganas (or Ganadevas) are not a single race but a diverse collective of beings—dwarves, ghosts, animals, and spirits—serving as Shiva's attendants on Mount Kailash. Shiva is Ganapati or Ganesha-pati (lord of the Ganas), embodying their wild, ecstatic energy in his Rudra form, where he dances the Tandava amid Ganas. Ganesha, Shiva's son, is explicitly the leader of the Ganas (Ganapati), born from Parvati's essence to guard her, later elevated by Shiva to command these hosts. Myths describe Ganas as quirky, loyal companions—pot-bellied, dancing figures in temple carvings—who represent primal forces of creation and destruction. They are not a "race" like humans but a category of semi-divine entities, including bhutas (ghosts) and pretas, symbolizing Shiva's transcendence over chaos. Stories like Ganesha's beheading and elephant-head revival highlight his role in taming Ganas' unruliness, aligning with yogic themes of integrating subconscious (lower loka-like) energies.
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I'm basically slowly working my way through the lower realms to start having a look at the celestial order soon,
that's how we truly come closer to understand more about the implication of the 'om', the fist word that added matter through vibration to the creation that was prior only made of light.

Here are some additional resources for the aforementioned parallels of the mentioned 'subterranian' or sub/unconscious realms to norther mythologies and their inspiration of Lord of the Rings:

Parallels to Northern Mythologies: Icelandic (Norse) and Irish (Celtic) LoreVedic lower lokas share Indo-European roots with Northern mythologies, reflecting shared proto-myths of multi-layered cosmos.Icelandic/Norse Parallels: Norse cosmology features nine worlds on Yggdrasil, with lower realms like Svartalfheim (dark elves' forge-filled underground, akin to Vitala's molten gold and Asura craftsmanship) and Niflheim (icy, misty underworld of the dead, paralleling Rasatala's watery isolation and malice). Helheim, ruled by Hel, mirrors Patala's torturous aspects for the unworthy, with serpentine guardians like Nidhogg echoing Mahatala's Nagas. Ragnarok's cyclic destruction parallels Vedic Pralaya, where lower realms flood or burn. Gods like Loki (trickster with subterranean ties) resemble Maya's sorcery in Talatala, and dwarves (guardians of treasures) are like Yakshas under Kubera. These reflect shared themes of descent into shadow for wisdom or peril.


Irish/Celtic Parallels: Celtic Otherworlds are liminal realms accessed via sidhe mounds or lakes, with lower aspects like the shadowy Tech Duinn (House of Donn, abode of the dead) resembling Atala's seductive illusions. Fomorians, giant chaotic beings from undersea realms, parallel Daityas in Rasatala—malicious giants opposing gods. Mag Mell (Plain of Delight) has deceptive beauty like Sutala, while Tir na nOg (upper) contrasts with lower, peril-filled worlds. Tuatha Dé Danann's battles with subterranean foes echo Deva-Asura wars, and druidic shape-shifting mirrors yogic siddhis for loka travel. Shared motifs include cyclic time, fertility spirits (like Yakshas as nature guardians), and post-death individuation in bardic tales of heroes visiting underworlds.


Comparable Stories in Lord of the Rings: Parallels to Lower LokasJ.R.R. Tolkien's Middle-earth, inspired by Northern myths with potential indirect Vedic echoes via Indo-European roots, features realms paralleling lower lokas as corrupted, shadowy domains of entrapment and malice. Minas Morgul, the "Tower of Sorcery," is a glowing yet necrotic valley under Sauron's influence, with pale light and poisonous vapors—mirroring Talatala's illusory mazes and sorcery under Maya, where beauty hides danger. Its transformation from Minas Ithil (moon tower) to a haunted fortress echoes Sutala's harmonious opulence turning deceptive. Mordor, a barren, volcanic wasteland with Barad-dûr's eye-like tower, parallels Vitala's fiery rivers and Patala's abyssal malice, inhabited by orcs (like Asuras or Rakshasas) serving a dark lord akin to lower loka rulers. The Dead Marshes, with illusory lights luring travelers to watery graves, resemble Rasatala's submerged malice and drowning illusions.Broader parallels: Valinor (undying lands) like higher lokas (Satyaloka), while Middle-earth is Bhurloka. Sauron's ring as a binding force of desire echoes material attachments in patalas. Gandalf's descent into Moria (underground with Balrog, a fire demon) and rebirth mirrors yogic journeys through lower chakras/lokas for enlightenment, akin to Siddhas visiting Patala. Tolkien's Thomistic influences blend with mythic cycles, where lower realms test heroes, much like
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Depending on ones belief systems and goals in life(s) I wanted to add this description of eastern practitioners ways and workings,
becoming independent of the wheel of time for a while, creating protecting forces for the soul to build 'independent bubbles of existence'.
Maybe that's also matching the Egyptian guides in the afterlife idea.

Yogis, Magicians, Gurus, and Tibetan Lamas Realizing Post-Death Individualized States: Tulpas, Prayer Deities, EgregoresAdvanced practitioners in yoga, Tantra, and Tibetan Buddhism achieve siddhis allowing them to create and sustain thought-forms that persist beyond death, manifesting as individualized consciousness in bardo (intermediate) states or as egregores (collective entities). In Tibetan Vajrayana, lamas like those in the Nyingma tradition use guru yoga and deity visualization to generate yidams (prayer deities) or tulpas—autonomous beings born from focused intent, as described by Alexandra David-Neel in her encounters with lamas who materialized phantoms that gained sentience. These tulpas, similar to egregores in Western occultism, can evolve into protective spirits or even reincarnate, representing post-death individuation where the yogi's consciousness fragments into helpful entities.


Hindu yogis, such as Siddhas in Shaiva Tantra, create similar forms through mantra repetition, as in the story of Gorakhnath manifesting protective egregores to aid disciples after his samadhi. Gurus like Lama Tsongkhapa taught practices where deities (e.g., from the Hundred Deities of Tushita) are invoked for liberation in death, ensuring the practitioner's mind-stream remains individualized rather than dissolving. In post-death states, realized beings enter dharmakaya (ultimate reality) while emanating tulpas to guide others, paralleling bardo teachings in the Tibetan Book of the Dead. Magicians in these traditions view egregores as group-created entities (e.g., temple deities empowered by collective prayer), which can outlive creators, emphasizing the mind's power over lokas.
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These beej or root mantras, as well as the classic hare krishna one really could be considered kind of like a pick axe hammering away the ice boundaries between realms XD
Or maybe really just immersion in- and invokation of the energy associated with a power.

Some experienced practitioners even warn of some being to potent for inexperienced practitioners.
Definitely they have some effect.

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Man, I gotta say that when you expound on a given theme you don't "short change" your audience!
I have to "slow read" most of this thread, duh! Oh yeah, if that video mantra doesn't give you a case of "gnosis" then WTF? :ROFLMAO:
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Nice that you also find this topic as intriguing as I do, I indeed think research in this direction, the lucid dreaming device I mentioned is pretty fitting, has a significance as high as other major game changers that are constantly named, like AGI and 'free energy'.
Well, the new physics and quantum stuff is absolutely the "right thing" in my view to bring Magic/k and Science closer! What a "profound" statement "my man" Arthur C. Clarke came up with when he said: "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from Magic" !!!
I mean it may be just me, but that is just damned "Profound". Or maybe I just impress easily, duh?
You've got a mix of both going here in your thread, I will eventually play catch up!
 
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Man, I gotta say that when you expound on a given theme you don't "short change" your audience!
I have to "slow read" most of this thread, duh! Oh yeah, if that video mantra doesn't give you a case of "gnosis" then WTF? :ROFLMAO:
Not sure if it's just total rahu hyperfocus malfunction obsession that is bordering self destruction or something else,
maybe just a lack of self control. Let's see how my writing changes when i got myself tamed a bit in the coming months,
i hope to improve into more summarized dense text polishing sessions and more trve fokus.
 
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