Vampire "wannabes". Opinions?

[Xenophon]

Yes but what is the difference.

Moral difference or physical? And how would the difference bear on the matter of ideology? In either case---energy or blood-vampirism---the vampire is roughly in the position of Thrasymachus; his critic, that of Socrates. The former claims his can make better use of your energy than do you. Which position is found in a great many guises in the political bestiary even and especially today, left and right.

 

[Morell]

I have seen a lot of vampiric communities online and what bothers me the most is those that openly show their faces and even offer in person "services" to people for a price. Most of these are deemed "fakes" by Aset Ka and have a lot misunderstood about vampirism. What are your thoughts on what makes a real vampire?

I didn't know that there is more of Asetians who can speak openly about being members of Aset Ka, than only one.

To your question, along with thirst for energy, I assume darkness, silence, deep thoughts, keen eyes and difference from others that's hard to describe.

 

[8Lou1]

Nice of you to notice @Morell. This one is made to clean some of the asetianists mess.
I asked the universe and @Accipeveldare showed up.

 

[Morell]

Well, there is a lot of mess in vampirism for sure, (or chaos, it's hard to navigate through their variety...) even when we exclude the influence of texts published by Aset Ka.

 

[Wintruz]

What are your thoughts on what makes a real vampire?

Presence and a functioning MetaMind.

By Presence I do not mean the ability to make an impression through appearance or attitude. That's a fairly shallow skill and one the fledgling Vampyr will have perfected long ago. By Presence I mean a Being at such a level that simply sharing space with them awakens latent depths in those present (this often manifests as exhilaration, erotic attraction or fear/hatred, depending on the personality type). This cannot be faked: either one is there or they are not and it doesn't depend on outer aesthetics.

A MetaMind comes about as a consequence of the psyche undergoing initiation. What are called ESP, telepathy, etc. are properties of the MetaMind. They are not "gifts" but manifestations of the evolution of consciousness. With that in mind (!), I think the vampyric state is generally most perceptible in those who have done a good deal of prior initiatory Work. It's rare that these qualities are perceptible in those at the start of their path. The popular image of the vampire may be a spur to do that Work, an attraction sent from the Future Self to the self so that you move towards it.

 

[jin2494]

Well, there is a lot of mess in vampirism for sure, (or chaos, it's hard to navigate through their variety...) even when we exclude the influence of texts published by Aset Ka.

You talk like if all published by Aset Ka on vampirism was the only truth, there is valuable tomes not only Aset Ka, i tell you this cause i know you came from the vampirism forum, trollers site but also Aset Ka site

 

[Morell]

You talk like if all published by Aset Ka on vampirism was the only truth, there is valuable tomes not only Aset Ka, i tell you this cause i know you came from the vampirism forum, trollers site but also Aset Ka site

True, I used to be active on that forum.

I definitely find value in Aset Ka texts, I doubt that they tell a lot of truth about themselves, although they have done some occult research that is of value. Their take on Kemetism I cannot value, I don't follow egyptian deities, nor have deeper knowledge of them or their mythology.
BTW if you can recommend other vampiric texts of value, I'll be glad to widen my knowledge on this topic. I only found Aset Ka and Father Sebastiaan, and that guy is... well we all know I believe.

 

[Xenophon]

True, I used to be active on that forum.

I definitely find value in Aset Ka texts, I doubt that they tell a lot of truth about themselves, although they have done some occult research that is of value. Their take on Kemetism I cannot value, I don't follow egyptian deities, nor have deeper knowledge of them or their mythology.
BTW if you can recommend other vampiric texts of value, I'll be glad to widen my knowledge on this topic. I only found Aset Ka and Father Sebastiaan, and that guy is... well we all know I believe.

Father S's website takes a password to get in and I don't have time to play jinx the Sphinx with strangers on the road just now. From a couple other hits online, I can see he has considerable branding & marketing chops. What can you comment about his bona fides otherwise? Personally, I am chary of showmen magi, but at least some showmen are also genuine adepts and more.

 

[Morell]

Father S published few books on his occult vampirism. I definitely must give him points for name of the book: Sanguinomicon. It gave me idea to create my own version of artistic vampiric Ankh. The book itself contains some occult knowledge that feels like written by beginner with nice creativity. It made an impression of not the worst first work, that should be followed by much better rework of his system. Since the book was published 14 years ago, if Father S was into occult, he should by now do at least some progress. (even miserable occultist me is learning a little as the time goes) I'm not aware of any newer works of his.

Also there is an interesting blog post on Father S by vampire role-players community, that shows doing quite some work on the man. Older, but I believe, that it's relevant.

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[jin2494]

True, I used to be active on that forum.

I definitely find value in Aset Ka texts, I doubt that they tell a lot of truth about themselves, although they have done some occult research that is of value. Their take on Kemetism I cannot value, I don't follow egyptian deities, nor have deeper knowledge of them or their mythology.
BTW if you can recommend other vampiric texts of value, I'll be glad to widen my knowledge on this topic. I only found Aset Ka and Father Sebastiaan, and that guy is... well we all know I believe.

Father Sebastian yes i know who he is but i don't read his book yet so i can't judge him, but Aset Ka text by Louis Marques are fine books, Dom Webb Energy Magick of the Vampire is very valuable tome, N.D Blackwood capitalize too much his works but is a good author too in the theme of vampirism

 

[Xenophon]

Father S published few books on his occult vampirism. I definitely must give him points for name of the book: Sanguinomicon. It gave me idea to create my own version of artistic vampiric Ankh. The book itself contains some occult knowledge that feels like written by beginner with nice creativity. It made an impression of not the worst first work, that should be followed by much better rework of his system. Since the book was published 14 years ago, if Father S was into occult, he should by now do at least some progress. (even miserable occultist me is learning a little as the time goes) I'm not aware of any newer works of his.

Also there is an interesting blog post on Father S by vampire role-players community, that shows doing quite some work on the man. Older, but I believe, that it's relevant.

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That is quite a catchy title. Easy enough to divine the meaning, but with an air of the arcane.

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Father Sebastian yes i know who he is but i don't read his book yet so i can't judge him, but Aset Ka text by Louis Marques are fine books, Dom Webb Energy Magick of the Vampire is very valuable tome, N.D Blackwood capitalize too much his works but is a good author too in the theme of vampirism

I find Webb himself annoying on several fronts, BUT the exercises he outlines are easily worth the book's price. Which is all one can ask of a teacher.