Vampiric deities

[Viktor]

Though I'm not sure about the opposite to Christianity. Mainly because there is not single Christianity. And even when it was forming, it was syncretism and had many branches.

I intentionally said "Christianity" rather than naming specific Christian church or denomination as that would make no sense.
Some edge case denominations such as Yehovah witnesses don't really count since they're way off the course.

But this gives me that thought, that Christianity has specific beginning and end, That would make Vampirism being it's opposite completely timeless and eternal.

Yeah, maybe vampires predate it, when they dominated, in present (last 2-3K years and for the next e.g. few centuries) they're rare or hiding, and in the future they may get out of their coffins again or re-multiply, in that sense eternal has some meaning.

 

[Morell]

I intentionally said "Christianity" rather than naming specific Christian church or denomination as that would make no sense.
Some edge case denominations such as Yehovah witnesses don't really count since they're way off the course.

Fair. I definitely agree with JW being way away from what is usually understood today as Christianity. Now thinking about it, what do you think of Vampires and Gnosticism Christanity?

 

[Viktor]

what do you think of Vampires and Gnosticism Christanity?

Nice thinking! IMO Gnosticism is very close to anti-christianity, I could agree if somebody says Gnosticism is Vampirism, probably not in full but in good part since Gnosticism reveals parts that reduce Christianity to a human rather than divine invention.

We could speculate so much about this, what we know for sure is that Gnosticism exists for as long as Christianity does, so this has the potential to unlock the origins of Vamprism.

 

[Morell]

Nice thinking! IMO Gnosticism is very close to anti-christianity, I could agree if somebody says Gnosticism is Vampirism, probably not in full but in good part since Gnosticism reveals parts that reduce Christianity to a human rather than divine invention.

We could speculate so much about this, what we know for sure is that Gnosticism exists for as long as Christianity does, so this has the potential to unlock the origins of Vamprism.

What a fascinating idea. This potential might really be there. I'll have to refresh my knowledge of Gnosticism to think about it more, though...

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Brain-hurt...

Probably beyond my capability to put it all together right now, but I definitely say that it is possible. I took a fast YT refresh of Gnosticism and I see that there is a lot to it that seems similar to Vampirism. Though Vampirism is not single path just like Christianity. It varies a lot. I can tell even from my tiny library of Vampiric books, that it is understood and followed in many ways, some more, some less reasonable...

 

[Rudolfus]

Gnosticism is NOTHING like Vampirism. The two aren't even related!

Vampires are beings that have been cursed to have a deficit in their natural energy production. Whether it be sex, emotion, prana, or blood, or a mysterious fifth thing, the vampire must draw on the pure energy within. Without this supplemental boost, the vampire will DIE.

Gnosticism is the catalogued entry of proto christian ideals. Gnosticism is a MOVEMENT. It's not even the actual teaching of Gnosis (Knowledge). I'd argue that Kabbalah is the actual teaching of Gnosis. That's PROBABLY what Jesus was embodying in the New Testament.

To say that Vampirism is a movement is a vastly under rated way to explain you have no understanding of energy work. Or to say that the study of Gnosis is a disease/curse? Dude like wtf, you are NOT having the best day at work. You did NOT understand the assignment my friend.

ALSO! Christianity, in it's ultimate and purest form, is the belief that one can receive CHRIST. So to say that a vampire can't receive Christ or what so have you seems a bit insane to me, considering there are passages like John 3:16 that say "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life."

 

[silencewaits]

Gnosticism is NOTHING like Vampirism. The two aren't even related!

Vampires are beings that have been cursed to have a deficit in their natural energy production. Whether it be sex, emotion, prana, or blood, or a mysterious fifth thing, the vampire must draw on the pure energy within. Without this supplemental boost, the vampire will DIE.

Gnosticism is the catalogued entry of proto christian ideals. Gnosticism is a MOVEMENT. It's not even the actual teaching of Gnosis (Knowledge). I'd argue that Kabbalah is the actual teaching of Gnosis. That's PROBABLY what Jesus was embodying in the New Testament.

To say that Vampirism is a movement is a vastly under rated way to explain you have no understanding of energy work. Or to say that the study of Gnosis is a disease/curse? Dude like wtf, you are NOT having the best day at work. You did NOT understand the assignment my friend.

ALSO! Christianity, in it's ultimate and purest form, is the belief that one can receive CHRIST. So to say that a vampire can't receive Christ or what so have you seems a bit insane to me, considering there are passages like John 3:16 that say "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life."

You could illustrate your point without resulting to insults and absolutes.

Your definition of "vampirism" is similarly illogical; how did you maintain a "torpor" for years while abstaining from all of those things if it is indeed fatal?

Could you explain how the Kabbalah is the actual teaching of gnosis? How Jesus embodied that? Plus, how do you know that the person you are replying to (who may or may not be a energy vampire/psi-vampire) does not understand energy work?

 

[Rudolfus]

To a vampire a torpor can be period of extremely low energy consumption. During this time o living on my "fat", I also fed from psychic energy, which is like vegetarian to a sanguinarian vampire. So that did keep me from dying, but I suffered from extreme and sporadic mental illness during this time as a result of my energy being unbalanced. It took me getting on medicine to regulate my energy faculties, but I still don't have enough chi to persist without feeding on blood.

Well, I'm not going to actually explain the Kabbalah to you. You could look up "kabbalah gnosis" and probably find something to pique your interest. And it should be obvious that Jesus, a Jew, was understanding of the esoteric traditions of his people as an enlightened prophet of the Almighty.

 

[Morell]

Gnosticism is NOTHING like Vampirism. The two aren't even related!

Vampires are beings that have been cursed to have a deficit in their natural energy production. Whether it be sex, emotion, prana, or blood, or a mysterious fifth thing, the vampire must draw on the pure energy within. Without this supplemental boost, the vampire will DIE.

Gnosticism is the catalogued entry of proto christian ideals. Gnosticism is a MOVEMENT. It's not even the actual teaching of Gnosis (Knowledge). I'd argue that Kabbalah is the actual teaching of Gnosis. That's PROBABLY what Jesus was embodying in the New Testament.

To say that Vampirism is a movement is a vastly under rated way to explain you have no understanding of energy work. Or to say that the study of Gnosis is a disease/curse? Dude like wtf, you are NOT having the best day at work. You did NOT understand the assignment my friend.

ALSO! Christianity, in it's ultimate and purest form, is the belief that one can receive CHRIST. So to say that a vampire can't receive Christ or what so have you seems a bit insane to me, considering there are passages like John 3:16 that say "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life."

A Christian sanguine vampire. You're first of your kind I've ever met.

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Well, I'm not going to actually explain the Kabbalah to you. You could look up "kabbalah gnosis" and probably find something to pique your interest. And it should be obvious that Jesus, a Jew, was understanding of the esoteric traditions of his people as an enlightened prophet of the Almighty.

Honestly I don't think that Jesus ever existed. Also your claim about Kabbalah knowledge are very unconvincing to me. Rather seems like having nice big ego.

 

[Rudolfus]

I don't understand why you think a vampire can't receive Christ. If you can, explain that? Jesus has his followers spiritually drink his blood. How is that any different than using your aura to draw energy from people drinking your wine?

Also im not going to get into a pissing contest with someone who thinks googling "kabbalah gnosis" is a claim to having a big ego lmao. You can deny me all you want xD i see what you clap for

 

[Morell]

I don't understand why you think a vampire can't receive Christ. If you can, explain that?

Sure I can.
First, I said that I think that Jesus didn't exist, not that vamp cannot receive Christ spirit, whatever it is.

Concerning the blood and Jesus, a Jew would probably never drink human blood. Definitely not like that. They were killing animals and painting stuff and building with blood, but that's not the same as drinking it.

Blood drinking was always pagan practice. In Greece there were cults of drinking blood or wine that were seeking immortality through these rituals. When Jews went to diaspora after loosing wars against Roman empire and lost their second temple, these Greek cults got mixed with Judaism and formed what we now know as Christianity. That is why new testament is written in Greek instead of Hebrew or Aramaic, the languages of the Jews.

Gnostic vampirism is spiritual stuff, it's not about drinking blood or life. All life eats life to survive. If you want to receive Christ, go for it. Do it and face what comes from it. There is always price to pay for any path we take. I do not want that kind of stuff because the cost is not worth it for me. That's all. Christian path seems to me to be leading towards the hive mind. It's right hand path where you are just one wheel in huge machine, figuratively speaking. It has advantages, no denial there. But as I said, for me it's not worth it.