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Vampirism and Gnosticism

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This idea came from @Viktor but I found it really fascinating, so I decided to start a thread.

Nice thinking! IMO Gnosticism is very close to anti-christianity, I could agree if somebody says Gnosticism is Vampirism, probably not in full but in good part since Gnosticism reveals parts that reduce Christianity to a human rather than divine invention.

We could speculate so much about this, what we know for sure is that Gnosticism exists for as long as Christianity does, so this has the potential to unlock the origins of Vamprism.

Vampirism and Gnosticism... wow. Gnosticism says, as far as my poor knowledge goes, that the existence (hate the term matrix) is controlled by a demiurge, an evil god and his followers, who enslave us, keeping us mortal and weak. Vampire on the other hand is immortal and powerful and therefore people are taught to fear them. And it is an enemy to this god, or Christian god. Vampires in legends are even repelled by the symbols and "holy" stuff of Christianity, no longer accepted into this system. Maybe no longer slaves of it?

Vampire's blood is like a venom that gives new life that is unlike human one. The sacrament of blood really is fascinating in this case, counterpart to same ritual in Christianity. (I find it funny how some branches see it like real deal, (respect to them!,) but some only as symbolism and some don't even do that at all) Really worth it asking what kind of life is given by blood of Jesus, doesn't look much good to me honestly, so the alternative sounds far more worth it.

There is even a book on gnostic like approach to vampirism, called Darker Teachings of the Immortals. It tries to instruct on achieving immortality, mentioning an enemy feasting on the death, calling him Brute with the Skythe. Actually worth the read for those interested in this way of understanding Vampirism. The text is mainly Channeled, perhaps the authors broke through the veil and gained knowledge from someone who actually achieved the desired goal? Maybe. It makes sense to learn from someone who actually succeeded.

So... I personally get more and more to like this concept, or angle of Gnosticism connected with Vampirism. What do you people think?

Want to get this out of my system so I'll spill this stuff here, it is related in a way...
I actually got interested in digging a little into Finfal Fantasy VII lore, as it is pretty similar. Mako is a life giving venom filled with memories like Akashic Library, if you are worthy it enhances you, if not, it kills you and it can drive you mad. Being exposed for too long damages and kills everyone in the end. It changed Cloud quite a bit filling him with memories of others. (he is interesting tale of reincarnating, sort of)
Though I got most interested in Sephiroth, Who got surrounded by Abrahamic motives. To get it loosely (leaving some stuff out) He gets Mako infusion and gets alight, figures out his connection with Jenova (probably misspel of Jehova, they altered spelling a lot in the game, possibly intentional) and gives up his humanity, physically dies but survives that as spiritual being, becoming immortal and defeats Jenova in mental battle. Sephiroth feels to be a vampiric being to me. Nicknamed him the Angel of Prey.
 

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You might also be interested in gnostic gospels.
This are those which the Church rejected and doesn't want their sheep to know about.

Really worth it asking what kind of life is given by blood of Jesus, doesn't look much good to me honestly, so the alternative sounds far more worth it.
Where there is sacrifice (giving blood), there is also another side (taking it).
Vampires take it, vampires feed on it.
 

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You might also be interested in gnostic gospels.
This are those which the Church rejected and doesn't want their sheep to know about.
I've read some and I don't get a bit from them. The honest truth is that they are old, written in mentality of their time and I'm no historian, nor Christian or Jew. I lack mentality needed to understand them well. Glad to have something from modern interpretations, those I partly get. Still I truly doubt that I could understand what was truly meant by the authors, even if they truly wrote honestly and were not altering tales they learned from others...
 

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Gnosticism is a record of proto christian esoteric ideals. Before that was oral tradition of the Kabbalah. Of course as it is, the Kabbalah contains the knowledge of Vampirism, as it is a symptom of the world. To say this symptom is within something that is within something seems to be misdiagnosing the disease. It would be more clear to define Kabbalah as the world where Vampirism lies for the occultist.
 

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Gnosticism is a record of proto christian esoteric ideals. Before that was oral tradition of the Kabbalah. Of course as it is, the Kabbalah contains the knowledge of Vampirism, as it is a symptom of the world. To say this symptom is within something that is within something seems to be misdiagnosing the disease. It would be more clear to define Kabbalah as the world where Vampirism lies for the occultist.

Interesting theory! How so?

But small correction--the Kabbalah actually arose long after the death of Jesus, and thus Gnosticism.
 

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Kabbalah is the modern jewish mysticism that is most known. Before that was oral tradition that the Sefirot are drawn from. That's what I meant, Merkabah i think it's called.
 

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Kabbalah is the modern jewish mysticism that is most known. Before that was oral tradition that the Sefirot are drawn from. That's what I meant, Merkabah i think it's called.
I wouldn't call tradition that is around approximately 700 years modern, but okay.
 

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as opposed to merkabah being around 2000? yeah thats what modern means bud.
 
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