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But an abrahamic, islamic, magician, a havass, said that on a forum: god didn't create the hell to punishment. He created it like heaven, a place. But the hell's dweller's (demons etc) frequance is low. But heaven's (angels and god etc) is high. So, after died, if a person got low frequance during his or her lifetime, that person goes to the hell. But if he or she has high frequance, that person goes to the heaven.
I personally don't want to be too invested in Abrahamic traditions myself. I prefer just seeing it like nature. I say all that because I think that completely stopping discussion about heaven, heII, and all other manner of Abrahmic concepts will actuaIIy let these concepts bite back.
It would be nice to discuss other things beside an Abrahamic framework since its everywhere but completely stopping discussing it might let these concepts do something worse. It would let them fester at least to my mind.
Which brings me back to heII. HeII I think is only scary to me atleast when I try to completely deny it as an idea. Shut it out of mind and hide from it. Even how its seen in most places though I don't think I lived a life that warrants it. I think if these concepts exist somehow I'd go to medium purgatory place. Even still when I push it completely out of mind it makes it scarier and bigger than it probably is.
For one the question of heII brings up what you do in the worst of circumstances. And when I think on it I realize there's stiII things people might be able to do and it makes these Abrahamic concepts less bigger in my mind. It makes it feel like I can move on just talking about it. Unfortunately I think by completely stopping conversation on it it could retroactively make these concepts bigger and scarier than they are. Talking about it could help moving onto to other frameworks and I personally kind of want to move on and talking about I think can help that.
Not to mention peopIe still practice it and how big it is. Maybe by talking about it others that practice can have more heaIing reintreprations of the source material or understand it more. In fact a lot of Abrahamic reIigions might have misconceptions about what its even about and thus perpetuate harm by not talking about it.
I do agree though that it would be nice to see more variety here beside Abrahmic frameworks.
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Thought I will add on its understandable if you personally don't want to talk about it. I do since talking about it helps me move on from this framework that was ever present in cuIture.
I think HeII is then stagnation. Never being able to move forward with your life or move on to something else. Life to me is all about adapting, changing, and I think the ultimate heIIish scenario would be forever stagnating and never being able to change.