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What is the greatest peril faced by all practitioners, regardless of path, from which all other perils arise and how do you show up for it?

Sedim Haba

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Great book! I got tons out of it around age 19, which is just about the right time. After that, you sort of have to "make things your own" and go deep - which I encourage everyone to do with their own stuff, hopefully without going either full narcissist nor full nihilist, which I think are both dangers.

Regarding dogma. I say run with whatever you're smoking. Just come out of it occasionally to talk with the rest of us, and be sure not to run all the stop signs.

Re: the dysregulation. I’m not trying to be too mean here. That was directed at the Europeans who did not grow up with this stuff and might look at it through rose-tinted glasses. I know to those in more traditional, conservative countries, American-style paganism sounds super great, the "do whatever" and "free love."

And I’d say those folks could probably benefit from some of the Southern California (1930s to 1990s) arts culture where all that super loopy material comes from and was drip fed into the global over-culture : sci-fi, comics, the space program, and pulp fiction men's adventure stories. Think of Ray Bradbury, who was friends with Jack Parsons. There is a neat stuff there, but there are also negatives. But it will localize differently for you all in other cultures.

For a snapshot of 1960's to 2025 (very 'Neptune in Pisces' , with two main cycles, the last one which is now ending) Boomer Occultism, see Peter Grey's excellent unpacking of a key thread that run through that mess:

Taking the Abyss trip
Grady McMurtry’s Caliphornia dreaming
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'Boomer Occultism'? I lived thru that, and it wasn't all California Sunshine, let me tell you it was cutting edge rebellion!

While we all waited for our draft number doom, to go die in nam that is.

LaVey and so the 'Satanic Panic' we had to hide and be secretive from actual backlash.

You all today stand on the shoulders of Boomer Occultism, with actual legal protection now in some spaces.
 

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I think part of these conversations constitute unpacking what is useful from what is not, without having to re-swallow the whole 1960's hair-ball. I think that broader conversation is starting now, and where the "dangers" fit.

I'm not a pagan, also Gen-X and a native of the So-Cal arts culture (artist, art director, game dev) but I do like Wiccans et all having legal protections under the US civil code. Before anyone starts tooting horns, Boomers overlook the Silent Generation's spearheading Civil Rights, and Jewish contribution to liberalization of US culture, which both precede you.
 

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I think part of these conversations constitute unpacking what is useful from what is not, without having to re-swallow the whole 1960's hair-ball. I think that broader conversation is starting now, and where the "dangers" fit.

I'm not a pagan, also Gen-X and a native of the So-Cal arts culture (artist, art director, game dev) but I do like Wiccans et all having legal protections under the US civil code. Before anyone starts tooting horns, Boomers overlook the Silent Generation's spearheading Civil Rights, and Jewish contribution to liberalization of US culture, which both precede you.
One of my favorite fun facts is: The first lesbian kiss on broadway was in a Yiddish play and the entire cast was arrested for indecency. The case was appealed and reversed based on freedom of expression
play was “God of Vengeance” by Sholem Asch debuted on Broadway in 1923 with a scene depicting a kiss between two women, considered the first lesbian kiss on the Broadway stage read more here
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