What work can be done outside the planetary hours - I keep missing them

[Lion]

Is it possible to invoke spirits at a time that isnt the planetary hour for that spirit? what kinds of work arent dependent on doing it in the non-planetary hours?

 

[iseht]

Ideally both day and hour are aligned, if for some reason you can't do hour, then do day, but hour is more important than day. Some conjurations require far more precise timings, it depends on what you're working with. If you want to speak to a planetary spirit, you should align with it. If you want to speak to unrelated miscellaneous pagan god, then it probably doesn't matter too much.

 

[Ben Gruagach]

Timings are about attempting to take advantage of the best moments to do something (perform a particular spell, contact a being, etc.). You can certainly try to do a spell or contact a being outside of the "ideal time" and it might or might not work. If you do the work during the ideal time then the chance of success is greater.

 

[saber]

I invoke planetary spirits pretty frequently outside of their ideal hours, and they still respond to me. Asking for guidance from a spirit or requesting aid is definitely possible. If I'm infusing a talisman though, I'll still try to work within the hours. I set an alarm as a reminder for 15 minutes beforehand so I have time to cleanse the space before I start ritual.

The way I see it, planetary hours are more of an optional thing that can enhance results rather than a mandatory thing.

 

[AbammonTheGreat]

Is it possible to invoke spirits at a time that isnt the planetary hour for that spirit? what kinds of work arent dependent on doing it in the non-planetary hours?

You can do work with the spirits outside of the hour if its the day.

For example I can conjure Jupiters spirits at any time on Thursday, but if I want to ask for their power it will be much stronger during the hour.

If you need to call a planetary spirit in a bind then you can do it in their hour but not on the day. For example I have an emergency and need to rectify a situation by calling on Mercurys spirits but its Friday. Just make sure youre calling on them during his hour on the Friday but you only have the duration of that hour before they get extracted out and something else shows up to LARP.

If there is an astrological election, for example, its Monday night and youre making a talisman with Saturn and Mars you can call on those spirits and they'll show up only as long as you are facing the star and it is in your line of sight.

The exceptions to these rules are the sun and moon. Sun requires only daylight to access its spirits and Moon can be accessed at all times but you have to coordinate with the mansions.

For direct conversation abide by the hour on off days and if you need more flexibility use the day.

For talismans more attention to detail = more power. So right election + day + hour is what you want.

If you have a talisman consecrated by the spirit during an appropriate time you can communicate with the spirit at any time throughout your day, as a piece of it is in the talisman, however it may not be magically capable of performing action until its correct times.

This all comes down to an old occult philosophy known as the stellar rays. If the rays are present (either by timing or sensory experience) then the spirits are capable of communion and effect.