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A public disrespect and a private apology are not an equal exchange. If he didn't apologize as publicly as he disrespected you, in order to quell all of the gossip and ruination of your image, then his apology doesn't really have any value. You said it was like 100 people, if their minds aren't reintroduced to the version of yourself that is respected, you will just get more disrespect from them on the back end. Also there's the part I mentioned above about how the higher ups now look at you. If they now see you as a push-over, there goes any chance of you getting promoted to any leadership roles
Agreed. I like how you think. The broader context you bring up also makes it a lot bigger magickal undertaking. Putting the hurt on one person and getting your self respect back is not hard, getting 100 people, plus the higher ups, to regain respect for you, is.
But if the OP is happy with the situation, fair enough.
Well I'm already late to the party but there's still something I want to say about your initial post, and I especially want to reply to this new post you made today after reading it. I don't see him just apologizing as enough, but it depends on the scope of the apology, so I have some questions.
There's nothing stopping all of the higher-ups whose minds he's already poisoned against you from continuing to persecute you and be biased against you (denying you promotions, giving you annoying tasks and "grunt work" on purpose, etc).
You said he apologized, but: Did he clear things up with the higher ups to restore your image with them?
Did he apologize as publicly as he disrespected you to restore your image with the other workers?
If not, this might just be a "long con" on his part, to sabotage your upward momentum at work, while still getting to keep you in his back pocket as a "friend" or "ally" or even a neutral party that won't get in his way. There are some people that take a really machiavellian approach to climbing the corporate ladder.
A public disrespect and a private apology are not an equal exchange. If he didn't apologize as publicly as he disrespected you, in order to quell all of the gossip and ruination of your image, then his apology doesn't really have any value. You said it was like 100 people, if their minds aren't reintroduced to the version of yourself that is respected, you will just get more disrespect from them on the back end. Also there's the part I mentioned above about how the higher ups now look at you. If they now see you as a push-over, there goes any chance of you getting promoted to any leadership roles.
It seems like you were satisfied by his apology but I wonder if you will feel the same if he gets promoted in the next few months. That apology will hold a lot less weight then won't it?
If magic as powerful and world altering as a curse/hex is within your capabilities, wouldn't it make more sense to ask about magic that could be used in some way to build wealth and get out of the work force to begin with?
There's nothing stopping you from meeting another A-hole after you've cursed (or forgiven) this one.
The best revenge is success, and it has the added bonus that you didn't actually have to harm him in any way (which I think is excessive for work place drama). Which you've kinda proven by how quickly you've changed your tune after his apology.
Me personally, the whole hex/curse magic thing only makes sense in life/death or violent situations. Let's say I live in a dangerous area and there's a local criminal who keeps robbing me every month, and I can't really do anything because he's part of a gang and they will retaliate. It makes perfect sense to curse/hex this guy.
Ironically though, if I used some form of magic to build wealth, I could just leave that dangerous area and skip all of the BS.
If both options are possible (blessing vs cursing), it just makes more sense to "bless" yourself than to "curse" someone else. Blessing yourself has secondary benefits, cursing others only has that single instance of a benefit.
This talk of acquiring wealth through magic is quite intreging, would you care to elaborate how one would go about that? Only experience i have with this is making an offering to Nitika and receiving a low 4 digit sum a week later
This talk of acquiring wealth through magic is quite intreging, would you care to elaborate how one would go about that? Only experience i have with this is making an offering to Nitika and receiving a low 4 digit sum a week later
Why not start a thread about money spells? This one is supposed to be about something radically different - many people that aren't that interested in cursing may want to share their thoughts about wealth magic but ignore this thread.
This talk of acquiring wealth through magic is quite intreging, would you care to elaborate how one would go about that? Only experience i have with this is making an offering to Nitika and receiving a low 4 digit sum a week later
The only way I can conceive of doing it would be to have some kind of dependable practical magic ability that:
1. Can operate/function within the physical realm.
2. Isn't something subjective or open to interpretation (like symbolic "clairvoyance" with no specific times or dates)
3. Works consistently under normal conditions and isn't at the mercy of multiple variables (other peoples thoughts or desires can affect it)
4. Can be repeated with the same level of effectiveness under similar conditions (doesn't randomly work "every once in a while")
For example, If someone can actually do astral projection, not lucid dreaming, the one where where you move within physical reality and can even see your own body, there has to be some exploit they can take advantage of with that ability in order to create an income for themselves.
Maybe they can get into the business of buying old storage units like in the Storage Wars Tv series:
If you can astral project the week before or the day before and look into each storage unit to see which ones have hidden antiques, jewelry, etc. You'd never come out at a loss during these auctions. Everybody else would be gambling, but you would be doing insider trading. The only annoying thing is that you had better keep your win rate a secret as people will start constantly trying to outbid you in order to steal it from you. If people know that you often guess right, they are going to start bidding based on your guesses (you'll notice that some of the people at those auctions are regulars and they know eachother).
It's up to that person with whatever ability they have, to follow some obvious steps like; brainstorm ideas, experiment, do tests, do training, and then start the process.
You'd first have to make sure and test and experiment with the ability to see if you can actually do it, and you aren't just hallucinating though.
For example:
Do your surrounding details when projecting match your surrounding details when you aren't?
Can you leave a book open on your desk and read that same page when astral projecting?
Can you write down a list of random 7 digit numbers and when in an astral state memorize the 16th number (choose randomly) and then when you come back to your body see that it's the exact same number?
Etc, etc, etc
On two occasions I have had a lucid dream where I was in my room and I looked down at my own body on my bed sleeping. I do not consider those two instances examples of astral projection because when I flew up through my roof to look at my surroundings, the details didn't really match, everything was kinda "wonky" (that's why I call them lucid dreams). Both instances were years apart and happened randomly.
Even it actually was astral projection and that's just one of the quirks of being an undeveloped magician (my perception was too limited to see everything), I still wouldn't even consider that a "success" or "magic" because I didn't do it on purpose and I can't intentionally repeat the feat at will.
Experiences like that are part of why I got an interest in magic to begin with though.
If I can one day do something like that with intent, then I'll call it astral projection.
Here's a more specific example (but it's probably impossible). Most people will say that telekinesis is impossible even with magic, but lets assume that it's actually possible, but it's not as strong as being able to uproot a tree or anything like that. It works but it is very weak and can't be used a lot.
Lets say that you can only move an object no heavier than 10 grams, you can only move it no further than 1 inch in any direction, and you can only do this once a day without exhausting yourself. Even with such a weak and limited ability, you could still go to various casinos and become wealthy overtime by cheating at the roulette games. I'd do simple betting (color betting), you either move the ball to fall on red or fall on black, based on what color you bet on.
But remember the steps:
You must test and experiment with the ability (that's how you find out the restrictions I gave in the example with weight, distance and usage).
You must do training. If I had that ability I would save up money and buy an industry standard roulette wheel, then I'd train using it at home until I get a 100% win rate. This would take months since I can only use the ability once a day.
You only need to make one big haul winning to be set for life. I'd say bet 50% of your total winnings until you get to like $500,000 (or whatever is the safe limit before you get thrown out of the casino lol) and then leave the casino, then you can buy some properties to rent in places where the real estate is cheap and live off of the rent.
But of course, none of this matters unless you actually have a dependable practical occult ability (which is the only hard part), and it's not just a delusion of your mind (which is why testing and experimenting with said ability is mandatory).
Our minds can play tricks on us (placebo effect, hallucinations, mental illness, cognitive biases, etc), but only to an extent. If you test an ability strictly enough there's no way that your mind can keep you deluded. After enough testing you will figure out whether or not you can actually do what you think you are capable of doing.
Honestly if you give anyone with an average IQ the most meager occult ability you can think of, they will find some way to use it to make money very quickly (or atleast be able to quit their job and use their free time to start a business). But the ability has to fall under the four rules I stated at the beginning.
The only way I can conceive of doing it would be to have some kind of dependable practical magic ability that:
1. Can operate/function within the physical realm.
2. Isn't something subjective or open to interpretation (like symbolic "clairvoyance" with no specific times or dates)
3. Works consistently under normal conditions and isn't at the mercy of multiple variables (other peoples thoughts or desires can affect it)
4. Can be repeated with the same level of effectiveness under similar conditions (doesn't randomly work "every once in a while")
Guys, guys, I was politely trying to steer this thread back on track because it had veered way off topic (which was how best to curse someone). You wrote such a beautifully elaborate reply that would be really interesting to forum members but here it will only ever be read by people who want to learn more about cursing. This would be a great topic starter elsewhere but here? It's a pity that all that fascinating information will just get lost in this sub-forum.
The "worst" would be to bring about the physical death of a person. Do you think hurting your ego is sufficient reason to end the life of someone who might, in every other context, be valuable to the world? How will the trauma of their death impact the people in their life? Would it inflict emotionally broken people onto a world already overburdened with such, thereby weakening the stock? I'm opposed to anything that weakens potentially virtuous humans.
Not everyone is valuable and I have written about when I think it's appropriate to pronounce such destructive energy. However, the situation you describe is not sufficient in itself to curse this person. Your desire to says only that you're fragile and impulsive.
Furthermore, any curse worth uttering cannot be controlled. You cannot issue destructive energy while saying "Now don't kill him, just break his legs or something". It doesn't work that way. If you truly want to destroy someone, understand what you are doing and own it and all of its implications. Everything else is just playing around.
Guys, guys, I was politely trying to steer this thread back on track because it had veered way off topic (which was how best to curse someone). You wrote such a beautifully elaborate reply that would be really interesting to forum members but here it will only ever be read by people who want to learn more about cursing. This would be a great topic starter elsewhere but here? It's a pity that all that fascinating information will just get lost in this sub-forum
I tend to agree that in this case a curse might be over the top. As I have said before, if one would not bust a cap over a situation s/he should not fire off a curse either.
