What’s your opinion on rabid atheism

[Mider2009]

What’s your opinion on those atheists who rage at anything and everything that’s religious and spiritual?

imo I think they’re rather silly and not worth arguing with, it’s not my job to proselytize.

 

[Jarhyn]

Well, I have a bunch of "rabid" atheist friends and also not-friends. Personally, I'm "There are zero or more gods depending on how you define the term, and you're going to have to be specific about that."

Usually they are of the form "there are zero gods" style "strong" atheists, and I usually have some form of response of this sort when they start getting persnickety and preachy with it:

This is a problem because science cannot show there are zero gods, and math can show any thing claiming to be the actual god is worthy of doubt, and that regardless of claims of godhood by any given definition, ethical action, understanding, and treatment is not guaranteed from or by such.

I'm a god of a universe. Hopefully not this one. That would be really awkward on account of I did some really fucked up shit there in the universe I "God" for, and let's not get started with all the fucked up shit going on around here right now.

Gods may exist.

I can also describe a number of ways that universe can be that do not require anything intelligent-creator-shaped.

The whole debate is just dumb, and can we please get on from "worshipping" "gods" except that most holy worship which is "figure it out your own damn self"?

Of course, one of the things I busied myself in figuring out was how things like "faeries" and "demons" and "gods" by whatever definitions exist in a way that is compatible with material reality without invoking a single thing a materialist may consider "woo", as I'm a materialist and take my razor happily to any "woo" I can find inside my own head.

Of course I generally try not to argue so much when people have different ways of discussing the same thing, or when people try to "dial out". I have some interesting causal adjacencies under my belt, and all my art, artistic as it is, is pointed in the direction of such!

Why would it not be?

Still, I don't put my weight on that. Applying what I learned in my HTM/AI courses to how I operate the inside of my own head? By gosh, that's pretty much exactly what is discussed in every esoteric book out there, but reflected in rather than at a terminal.

 

[Yazata]

What’s your opinion on those atheists who rage at anything

The same as political ragers and climate ragers. Too convinced of their own superior understanding to consider a different view.

Gods may exist

The whole debate is just dumb, and can we please get on from "worshipping" "gods" except that most holy worship which is "figure it out your own damn self"?

I agree. Never understood why people can't ignore things that they don't agree with (that don't have any effect on them ... 3,2,1... Somebody will say they are oppressed by the Catholic couple across the street)
Live and let live

 

[Mider2009]

The same as political ragers and climate ragers. Too convinced of their own superior understanding to consider a different view.



I agree. Never understood why people can't ignore things that they don't agree with (that don't have any effect on them ... 3,2,1... Somebody will say they are oppressed by the Catholic couple across the street)
Live and let live

I think atheists would ignore evidence even if presented to them, though I think many open minded atheists just reject the dogmatic idea of an angry God throwing billions into hell forever, which I also reject

 

[Jarhyn]

I think atheists would ignore evidence even if presented to them, though I think many open minded atheists just reject the dogmatic idea of an angry God throwing billions into hell forever, which I also reject

It's more than that, though. Most have more words that they use to discuss "god" by whatever definition. They have things like "an ethical philosophy motivated by rational thought and investigation which informs bounds of 'best behavior'", which manages to include "love your neighbor as yourself" by some form of language, which is itself what many people think of as:

"God": the "social idea" (spirit) of loving your neighbor as yourself.

It's the same thing, but it helps to have work you can refer back to and we don't all have time to check the math!