Why do we have guardian spirits?

[aliciafrogs]

So I was thinking why do we have guardian spirits? Why would a spirit be interested in us? I read somewhere in a book it’s like we are pets but I’m not sure I entirely agree. Anyone have any theories on this?

 

[Fausto]

So I was thinking why do we have guardian spirits? Why would a spirit be interested in us? I read somewhere in a book it’s like we are pets but I’m not sure I entirely agree. Anyone have any theories on this?

Why would I protect a fucking human being ?? Are you kidding me, private Alicia ??

 

[Durward]

If some people do, they are obviously drunk or high, absent or not paying attention.
I think it makes some people feel better to think that way, and some people may even have spirits watching, but they are likely ancestral and not some angel. I have zero connection to anything but annoying entities that are mostly just in the way, and they have been zero help with anything.
If some people are special enough and needed for destiny purposes, I can see the control systems making a special effort. But, for the masses of empty people, it would be quite a waste to even bother to watch them, and quite disgusting. Just the psychic visuals are bad enough.
I do like to tell the kids that Santa isn't the only thing watching them night and day, and that entities will know and tell on you. Life has it's perks.
But generally, this human cesspool doesn't get much attention from anything special.
What does often happen, is that your own 'others' that you don't pay much attention to are aware and are doing things. These parts of ourselves have their own agenda, memories, and lives going on. I suppose many people mistake them for other things, but they are basically just the versions of yourself that can actually do amazing things, and some of them live on, and have lived much longer than you. So they are more of your true essence than your waking ego personality is.

 

[AbammonTheGreat]

So I was thinking why do we have guardian spirits? Why would a spirit be interested in us? I read somewhere in a book it’s like we are pets but I’m not sure I entirely agree. Anyone have any theories on this?

Every point in space-time has a spirit associated with it. Their names are strings of the vertices of these points.

The texts and scriptures claim these spirits vastly outnumber men and animals. Spirit etymologically and philosophically is associated with an animating force. In magic we understand them to have incorporeal intellects associated with them. Now the entrance of the soul into incarnation then would logically mark a few different spirits with the souls entrance, these "guardians" have a range of offices/dominions. There is a spirit responsible for the inspiration of the soul, the protection of the soul, the life path, and even spirits associated with the soul's karmas, sins, and evils.

The most popular one is the HGA but it goes by many names, this "spirit"/angel crosses incarnations. It is the aspect of the soul that never incarnates, the "higher self". Porphyry likened the incarnated soul's relationship to it as a string on an instrument being pulled taut. This spirit works together with the aspect of the soul that is responsible for incarnating on the souls many different incarnations.

This is a condensed version theres a lot that goes into this and is scattered amongst the world's religious and magical texts, but it has to do with the soul's relationship to spacetime and the expression of its immortal/eternal nature into the finite material.

 

[Firetree]

So I was thinking why do we have guardian spirits? Why would a spirit be interested in us? I read somewhere in a book it’s like we are pets but I’m not sure I entirely agree. Anyone have any theories on this?

Why do you have an unconscious , 10 toes, a brain, a 'superconscious' , 'feelings' ...... etc .

They are a part of the ' constitution of the psyche ' - that constitution is partially 'non-local' .

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Why would I protect a fucking human being ?? Are you kidding me, private Alicia ??

hang on ... you are a guardian spirit ???

Or are you a human posting on an internet forum where a question was asked about other beings than us ?

Then again some guardian spirits may have come to your conclusion ..... considering their clients ! and given up on them ?

 

[aliciafrogs]

Why do you have an unconscious , 10 toes, a brain, a 'superconscious' , 'feelings' ...... etc .

They are a part of the ' constitution of the psyche ' - that constitution is partially 'non-local' .

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hang on ... you are a guardian spirit ???

Or are you a human posting on an internet forum where a question was asked about other beings than us ?

Then again some guardian spirits may have come to your conclusion ..... considering their clients ! and given up on them ?

Wait so are you saying they are not separate entities? They are an extension that functions independently similar to our immune system except it’s non local?

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If some people do, they are obviously drunk or high, absent or not paying attention.
I think it makes some people feel better to think that way, and some people may even have spirits watching, but they are likely ancestral and not some angel. I have zero connection to anything but annoying entities that are mostly just in the way, and they have been zero help with anything.
If some people are special enough and needed for destiny purposes, I can see the control systems making a special effort. But, for the masses of empty people, it would be quite a waste to even bother to watch them, and quite disgusting. Just the psychic visuals are bad enough.
I do like to tell the kids that Santa isn't the only thing watching them night and day, and that entities will know and tell on you. Life has it's perks.
But generally, this human cesspool doesn't get much attention from anything special.
What does often happen, is that your own 'others' that you don't pay much attention to are aware and are doing things. These parts of ourselves have their own agenda, memories, and lives going on. I suppose many people mistake them for other things, but they are basically just the versions of yourself that can actually do amazing things, and some of them live on, and have lived much longer than you. So they are more of your true essence than your waking ego personality is.

Okay I see what you’re saying. Some people are assigned guardian spirits, but it’s rare. Mostly we just have minor spirits hanging around. That makes sense too.

 

[beardedeldridge]

Like others have said as a rule, people don’t generally have guardian spirits.

-Eld

 

[Morell]

If some people do, they are obviously drunk or high, absent or not paying attention.
I think it makes some people feel better to think that way, and some people may even have spirits watching, but they are likely ancestral and not some angel. I have zero connection to anything but annoying entities that are mostly just in the way, and they have been zero help with anything.
If some people are special enough and needed for destiny purposes, I can see the control systems making a special effort. But, for the masses of empty people, it would be quite a waste to even bother to watch them, and quite disgusting. Just the psychic visuals are bad enough.
I do like to tell the kids that Santa isn't the only thing watching them night and day, and that entities will know and tell on you. Life has it's perks.
But generally, this human cesspool doesn't get much attention from anything special.
What does often happen, is that your own 'others' that you don't pay much attention to are aware and are doing things. These parts of ourselves have their own agenda, memories, and lives going on. I suppose many people mistake them for other things, but they are basically just the versions of yourself that can actually do amazing things, and some of them live on, and have lived much longer than you. So they are more of your true essence than your waking ego personality is.

I think I agree. A lot of people would want to believe that they have attention of spirits who would protect them as spiritual celebrities because they want to feel special... while not developing any speciality in themselves.

 

[Ohana]

Guardian spirit? I think not having an explicit one and instead just small spirits might be a blessing in disguise.

I prefer this hypothesis for a myriad of reasons. One being just basic privacy. I mean think about it. Having a guardian spirit constantly there. Where's your privacy? Especially since most people probably don't need a guardian spirit at all times.

I also prefer because if you do need protection or something similar then just asking the smaller spirits surrounding you for help and still the same outcome of protection only this time you get privacy.

Some people might want some spirits to stick around them for long chunks of time but even the people closest to you you still get privacy from time to time. Everyone needs some alone time its healthy.

I don't like thinking that theres something out there always guarding you. I still would want privacy for my own peace of mind.

 

[Firetree]

Wait so are you saying they are not separate entities?

Ummmmm .... 'terms' . Not sure about the title 'entity' with them either . Nor even the terms Guardian spirit , guardian angel, etc .

'Separate' ? Perhaps, in as much as normal senses and receptions go . Holistically ? We could be part of a 'great chain of being ' with present focus on the here and now material body . If you are unfamiliar with these ideas look up 'Tutelary Deity ' ... even the Wiki page on it is a start ... go to the bottom of the page and there are lists of similar concepts from different cultures .

In indigenous culture here , with some, it is a given , not only guardian spirits and helpers but animal totems .... the 'person' and aspects of their psyche that come together to make them whole extends into the animal kingdom , eg. my teacher is a possum - literally , it isn't just that 'his totem' is a possum , he is one as well . ( This idea has been acknowledged and explored in anthropology with the amusing title of ; 'The real, the really real and the really really real' . )

It also extends to 'country' ; your 'area' is an intimate part of yourself ; you exist in it and are it *. To the extent that a couple of years ago an Aboriginal woman won the Archibald prize here ( an award for portrait painting ) , there were protests ; its a landscape ! You cant enter a landscape painting in a portrait competition .' Regardless, 'the system' now acknowledges - ' that IS her , its an intimate part of her without which she would not exist ' and so the prize was upheld for her .

[ * I recently posted a film here '10 Canoes' as an example of the dynamics and teachings in myth , the beginning talks about coming out the waterhole , being born, dying, going back into the water hole, being born again ; a person is an extension and product of their country . ]

There is a possibility that different aspects of these ' parts of the psyche' might be modified , or expressed in modes particular to an individual depending on natal astrology ( just an idea I had ) .

They are an extension that functions independently similar to our immune system except it’s non local?


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The 'function ' might be atrophied by some due to misuse and modern unnatural lifestyle , so maybe its like the appendix ?

There seems certain physical proofs and evidence that there is some type of function in the psyche like it , that will surface in even the non mystical types (in times of stress and danger ) - the 'Third Man Factor ' - very interesting that one !

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- its not the only 'entity' that we hold within as as well , for example there is the 'Neuro-genetic Consciousness ' - a consciousness ( and memory ) held within the cells - it is often activated during 'ancestor contact ' . And with some , their 'self' extends through these ancestors , them being just one current manifestation .