Book Discussion Wondering if I should get these two books on vampirism?

[Woods1223]

I am pretty interested in these two books, but haven’t read anything by either author before. I was wondering if anyone else has, and if they’d recommend them. I’m particularly interest in the mentioned oneiric and astral travel related elements. Even more so than the vampirism stuff.
The books are

“NOCTULIUS: He Who Devours by N. D. Blackwood”

“GAMALIEL: Lunar Vampirism, Post-Human Tantra, and Oneiric Metamorphosis by Edgar Kerval”

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[Accipeveldare]

I am pretty interested in these two books, but haven’t read anything by either author before. I was wondering if anyone else has, and if they’d recommend them. I’m particularly interest in the mentioned oneiric and astral travel related elements. Even more so than the vampirism stuff.
The books are

“NOCTULIUS: He Who Devours by N. D. Blackwood”

“GAMALIEL: Lunar Vampirism, Post-Human Tantra, and Oneiric Metamorphosis by Edgar Kerval”

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Dont get anything from Blackwood. His practices are rather dangerous and not to mention, one of his books is simply a trap to feed off of the readers energy. You must be cautious with "BALG" in general. A lot of there stuff is very dangerous or unreliable.

 

[Johny111]

Dont get anything from Blackwood. His practices are rather dangerous and not to mention, one of his books is simply a trap to feed off of the readers energy. You must be cautious with "BALG" in general. A lot of there stuff is very dangerous or unreliable.

So, Blackwood managed to scare you from a distance? That fits perfectly with his claim that one of the first things a vampire novice should rid themselves of is the illusion of space. That means that when choosing suitable victims, none are inaccessible, because physical distance is not an obstacle. Terrifying, isn't it? Of course, his books have that twisted effect, because even if you just read them, it doesn't come without any consequences. Maybe your advice does have merit, but it depends on the person who is reading it, doesn't it?

As for Edgar Kerval, I haven't read him and can't say anything about his books.

 

[Accipeveldare]

Inde

So, Blackwood managed to scare you from a distance? That fits perfectly with his claim that one of the first things a vampire novice should rid themselves of is the illusion of space. That means that when choosing suitable victims, none are inaccessible, because physical distance is not an obstacle. Terrifying, isn't it? Of course, his books have that twisted effect, because even if you just read them, it doesn't come without any consequences. Maybe your advice does have merit, but it depends on the person who is reading it, doesn't it?

As for Edgar Kerval, I haven't read him and can't say anything about his books.

Indeed. I have read most of the BALG books. Including Blackwoods. The issue with Blackwood is he did not write his books to guide people, he wrote them to "feed" on them without them knowing.

 

[Morell]

Hmmm... Blackwood didn't that much scare me as much as he disgusted me. Though he didn't do as good work as Luis Marquez, when it comes to the building of network to feed upon.

But hey, if the brutal human-devouring vampire is what you want to become, who am I to stop you?

I say that Blackwood is worth reading, even if only for education about the dangers. Definitely I do think that all the books should be permited to read, even the dangerous ones, because we all know effects of the forbitten fruit. Read and learn. That is always useful, even if only to find out that the author is not to learn from.

But when it comes to getting attuned and to practice, better to use discrement and common sense. (and to have some idea about what you are getting yourself into) It's not only about how to do something but also about the price that is to be paid for it. (or in other words - how it is going to change you)

 

[Woods1223]

Hmmm... Blackwood didn't that much scare me as much as he disgusted me. Though he didn't do as good work as Luis Marquez, when it comes to the building of network to feed upon.

But hey, if the brutal human-devouring vampire is what you want to become, who am I to stop you?

I say that Blackwood is worth reading, even if only for education about the dangers. Definitely I do think that all the books should be permited to read, even the dangerous ones, because we all know effects of the forbitten fruit. Read and learn. That is always useful, even if only to find out that the author is not to learn from.

But when it comes to getting attuned and to practice, better to use discrement and common sense. (and to have some idea about what you are getting yourself into) It's not only about how to do something but also about the price that is to be paid for it. (or in other words - how it is going to change you)

The book seemed very interesting, I’m sad to hear it’s basically a walking warning sign. I was originally drawn to it because of its astral travel aspect, and the fact the entity it’s about seemed very akin to one I’m familiar with. I have similar reasoning with the other book. Oneiric/astral work is my main interest. And darker, more ‘eldritch’ entities. I had hoped the book had value in itself, not just as a reference of what not to do. But I am uninterested in something that is so dangerous or edgy that it’s unusable.

 

[Morell]

The book seemed very interesting, I’m sad to hear it’s basically a walking warning sign. I was originally drawn to it because of its astral travel aspect, and the fact the entity it’s about seemed very akin to one I’m familiar with. I have similar reasoning with the other book. Oneiric/astral work is my main interest. And darker, more ‘eldritch’ entities. I had hoped the book had value in itself, not just as a reference of what not to do. But I am uninterested in something that is so dangerous or edgy that it’s unusable.

There is a folder on astral travel in the library. If you want to work with vamps, you can find some good material in Liber Hirudo, there is some material on getting in contact with historical vampires.

The problem with occult books is that there is gold and shit in every book. It is just about how much of shit and how much of gold is in each book. If there is only shit, the book is useless, but shitless book on occult probably doesn't exist... There is no perfect book in other words.