[Opinion] Working vs Intitiating (Qlipoth)

[Reve900014]

I got a question about Klifoth
Can one work with Klifoth and never initiating themselves before? But they already have connection with ecah correspond rulers of its qlipha?

 

[HoldAll]

Maybe this thread can help:

Qliphotic Practical magick?

I haven’t been able to find a whole lot on the practical side of working with the qliphot. What would be the application for that kind of work & how would one go about it? I’d assume the qliphot would be better for “lower magick” as in getting physical things (Money, sex, etc) But i really...

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[Morell]

If we consider as initiation when you visit each qlipoth to familiarize with it and its energy and all, then if you have already done that, you might actually consider yourself initiated.

Though you can probably do some work without doing these visits and work quite fine, I assume. Still I think that knowing the tools of your art sounds rather reasonable.

 

[Reve900014]

If we consider as initiation when you visit each qlipoth to familiarize with it and its energy and all, then if you have already done that, you might actually consider yourself initiated.

Though you can probably do some work without doing these visits and work quite fine, I assume. Still I think that knowing the tools of your art sounds rather reasonable.

I mean ruler of its qlipha represent the nature of qlipha itself tho. Does that also count as intiated?

 

[Morell]

I mean ruler of its qlipha represent the nature of qlipha itself tho. Does that also count as intiated?

Not really, at least to me. But if you start the work with familiarizing yourself with the being, meaning proper study and then use your first rituals to make good contact and gain experience, it should be fine.