[Help] Your thoughts on having children

[Konsciencia]

I seriously don't want to have kids. Especially, the fact that this world is too chaotic for me to bring my Son or Daughter in this hell hole.

 

[LadyShrewsbury]

Look at your natal 5th house and its ruler. That will tell you a lot about your personal relationship to the idea of children.

I have Jupiter in the 5th in great condition by both essential and accidental dignity, and Jupiter is also my benefic of sect. Essentially, children are the greatest thing in my life and allow for my growth more than anything else.

another might not be so lucky! You have to work with what you’ve got and not worry about others and how they approach the topic.

 

[sahgwa]

Legacy or yet another soul/player plugged into matrix forced to playing the game ?
This thing was living rent free ok my head for more than a decade...
I used to don't like having my own children but now I'm exact opposite of what I thought I wanna have children but I really have to know everything about it about the consequences of my action of bringing another soul into the game...and how is this getting done on the other side...is there any book or any information I could read about this thing ?

There is a large cultural push by economic and also anti-human forces against having chidlren.
I think this is all tied into the push for AI, robotics, and a general top-down push for depression and feudalism.

My personal opinion is that every being needs to think for themselves if they want to have this great responsibility or not.
Clearly a lot of parents are faililng, in this day and age, and letting screens raise and babsit their kids, and allowing a (imo sick) political and culutural society indocrinate their children in public schools to become cogs in a very negative machine.

This is not to negate or endorse any particular political or economic view point, rather to say that bringing a new life into the world is such a great responsibility, I would ultimately not be asking a forum ,or a book for answers.

I would be asking myself.

Personally, we don't want children due to ultimately selfish reasons, focus on our own physical , emotional and spiritual needs and evolution. Also, we agreed on this fact before we got married. We appreciate children, and like to be around them on occasion; I became an uncle recently.
But I also feel we need more people having children, to continue the human race and help it evolve in a new and always positive direction. It's our gift, a physical body, to evolve and learn here in this physical reality.

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I seriously don't want to have kids. Especially, the fact that this world is too chaotic for me to bring my Son or Daughter in this hell hole.

That's what I am talking about - MSM is pushing this idea that Earth is at 'carrying capacity' we are 'greedy' etc. All this does is breed more chaos and more negativity .
I think as occultists we should be working not just to better ourselves, and gain personal power, but to raise up those around us with our evolution as well.
Viewing your personal life and environment as a 'hell hole' is not productive. Defeatism is weakness.

 

[Firetree]

Where did I say it's a good premise for having children?

You didn't , I said you were being off topic because you are giving reasons NOT to have children . This thread is about thoughts on having children .

Take some time and learn the difference between a biological motivation and a premise.
The rest of your response is histrionic.

No it isn't . It isn't artificial nor insincere and certainly isn't over reacting , due to the failures that are common in raising children - which IS concerning , even if it is not concerning to you . It's out of concern from the way children are being raised , how I have seen them being raised by parents that seem to have thought they were little replicas of themselves , and how well they respond to giving them relevant independent agency and nurturing according to their own destiny .

And I hope people that do not consider such issues do not 'jump in ' and have children without considering a whole range of issues and results ... and how and if they are going to be able to cope with them .

Bringing a child into the world should not be an accident or an inconvenience , its a serious matter ; the life and development of a new person , something we should be concerned about and not call that being over dramatic and ego fueled .

And considering it IS such an important thing and the question is being asked on a magical / occult forum a better subject for discussion might be looking at intent , astrological timing and within that , the significance of conception Vs birth ; the natal make up of the parents ; the environment and set up for the pregnant mother and developing child , the environment and stimulants * for the baby etc etc . In short - approaching it magically and consciously .

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