[Help] Your thoughts on having children

[Konsciencia]

I seriously don't want to have kids. Especially, the fact that this world is too chaotic for me to bring my Son or Daughter in this hell hole.

 

[LadyShrewsbury]

Look at your natal 5th house and its ruler. That will tell you a lot about your personal relationship to the idea of children.

I have Jupiter in the 5th in great condition by both essential and accidental dignity, and Jupiter is also my benefic of sect. Essentially, children are the greatest thing in my life and allow for my growth more than anything else.

another might not be so lucky! You have to work with what you’ve got and not worry about others and how they approach the topic.

 

[sahgwa]

Legacy or yet another soul/player plugged into matrix forced to playing the game ?
This thing was living rent free ok my head for more than a decade...
I used to don't like having my own children but now I'm exact opposite of what I thought I wanna have children but I really have to know everything about it about the consequences of my action of bringing another soul into the game...and how is this getting done on the other side...is there any book or any information I could read about this thing ?

There is a large cultural push by economic and also anti-human forces against having chidlren.
I think this is all tied into the push for AI, robotics, and a general top-down push for depression and feudalism.

My personal opinion is that every being needs to think for themselves if they want to have this great responsibility or not.
Clearly a lot of parents are faililng, in this day and age, and letting screens raise and babsit their kids, and allowing a (imo sick) political and culutural society indocrinate their children in public schools to become cogs in a very negative machine.

This is not to negate or endorse any particular political or economic view point, rather to say that bringing a new life into the world is such a great responsibility, I would ultimately not be asking a forum ,or a book for answers.

I would be asking myself.

Personally, we don't want children due to ultimately selfish reasons, focus on our own physical , emotional and spiritual needs and evolution. Also, we agreed on this fact before we got married. We appreciate children, and like to be around them on occasion; I became an uncle recently.
But I also feel we need more people having children, to continue the human race and help it evolve in a new and always positive direction. It's our gift, a physical body, to evolve and learn here in this physical reality.

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I seriously don't want to have kids. Especially, the fact that this world is too chaotic for me to bring my Son or Daughter in this hell hole.

That's what I am talking about - MSM is pushing this idea that Earth is at 'carrying capacity' we are 'greedy' etc. All this does is breed more chaos and more negativity .
I think as occultists we should be working not just to better ourselves, and gain personal power, but to raise up those around us with our evolution as well.
Viewing your personal life and environment as a 'hell hole' is not productive. Defeatism is weakness.

 

[Firetree]

Just dont treat them as 'mini-me' - some version of yourself related to your ego . Strive to nurture and support them , but when they start to mature , you have to 'release' them and let them go on to their own destinies .

Indian joke ; An adult Indian man complaining to his parents ; '' Yes, I know my other brothers are all successful doctors, but I didnt want to be a doctor , I wanted to be a dentist and that is what I am .... surely 4 doctors in one family is enough for you ? ''

 

[ROL13]

In my opinion and experience, being a father and watching my children grow is one of the most fulfilling experiences I have ever had; it is a mysterious bond. Of course, you must have a stable financial situation, since having children and poverty is a bad combination.

 

[voidcat]

but I really have to know everything about it about the consequences of my action of bringing another soul into the game…

Kids are highly unpredictable. They are their own independent beings and thus you can’t know everything about what consequences you’ll end up with. You are responsible for your own actions on how you care for the kids so I would read parenting books where possible to help you make good choices when raising them. In the end, you will make mistakes so be willing to learn from them and grow.

 

[juanitos]

I do not have kids and I never wanted.. If you get too deep into occult stuff is definitely better without.
Castaneda also explained in detail why is better not having kids, you lose a lot of energy as a parent!
everyone is different, different fate..different choices. ..do whatever you feel!

 

[akenu]

Well, I have 2 kids, and I am generally happy with both of them. Well... My older son is a teenager now and pisses me off from time to time with stuff like "selective hearing". But hey, I used to be a brat, as well; someone had to suffer my stupid ass, this is a payback time

 

[throne]

Life is a cruel joke for people who aren't rich. I know the narcissists in this place don't want to hear this but you're not the living god you think you are. You're literally rich people's livestock and slaves. Youre a monkey. You're an animal. You exist to work. You boss is your master. They completely dominate you. They tell you when to wake up, when to piss, how long to hold in your piss, control your time and even make you work on your days off. Your boss views you as their personal slave and they derive sadistic pleasure from dominating you.

You will create another wage slave and possibly a miserable incel, neckbeard basement dweller with 0 chance of a fulfilling life. The future is incredibly bleak. We live in dystopian societies and they will get much worse in the future. They'll have WW3, fucked up AI shit and probably multiple race wars to look forward to. AI is already being implemented into war. I can imagine some really nightmarish AI/robotic technology getting developed in WW3.

Kids are not legacies, they're not small versions of yourself, they're full fledged individual people with their own lives. Form a cult if you want a legacy.

"Form a cult if you want legacy" is a very cool quote from your post.