[Opinion] Golden Dawn Vs Rosicrucian

[Mohammed Salah]

New Developments in Planetary Magic
Contrary to the misunderstanding of some historians, Rosicrucian
Magic remains a living, growing, evolving synthesis of previously existing
systems, and not merely an object of historical curiosity. The legitimate
criteria to evaluate growth and further development in the R.
R. et A. C. system are: whether said developments are logically consistent,
whether they follow similar lines of synthesis as those used
during the nineteenth century, and whether or not they are magically
effective.
Regarding the Planetary Hierarchy of Divine and Angelical
Names, new research has revealed the traditional distinction between
Sephirothic and Planetary Hierarchies to be false. The correct distinction
lies rather between Sephirothic and Kameothic Hierarchies. In
the "Planetary" Hierarchy, the Divine Names are those of the Sephirothic
Hierarchy, whereas the names of the Planetary Intelligences
and Spirits derive from a system of Magic Squares called the Kameoth.
In conclusion, the Planetary Hierarchy previously employed by the
Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn should no longer be used. Instead,
Rosicrucian Magic must henceforth distinguish between Sephirothic
and Kameothic, rather than Sephirothic and Planetary Hierarchies.
Therefore, when performing Planetary Invocation, Magicians should
first invoke the Divine Name, Archangel, and Angel from the Sephirothic
Hierarchy, followed by the Kameothic Planetary Intelligence.
In Magical Evocation, the Magician would follow this with an Evocation
of the Kameothic Planetary Spirit.
The above paragraphs taken from (THE RITUAL MAGIC MANUAL By David Griffin)
The previous adepts before 1-1-1999 (the book publication date) handled the royal art with The Golden Dawn attributes, correspondences and symbols
and they recieved the promised results.
And adepts after 1999 by handling the Rosicrucian correspondences they also get prized by the promised results
That means both systems (The golden dawn - The rosicrucian) are valid.
So
which you think is more accurate than the other??

 

[psichevoluzione]

If both systems demonstrably produce results, the question is not one of accuracy but of symbolic framework and methodological preference. Different maps can describe the same operative reality.

 

[FireBorn]

If accuracy is the goal, you missed the magick. Magick was never about intellectualization. Those who fear the current need guarantees to hold their egos in place. Step into the circle, let go, take the chance and ride the ride.

A saying we had a long time ago in the Army, and it applies to magick beautifully: Its only stupid if it doesn't work.

 

[Beyond Everything]

Griffin is known to be a clown. He was involved in the sad GD wars (each faction falsely claiming real lineage, not that such a thing matters much). As I recall he also got conned by some Italians into believing he was being given the real secrets of the Illuminati, when it was just material freely available in that language...and there's no such thing as a real rosicrucian, it was all fiction in the first place.

 

[psichevoluzione]

If accuracy is the goal, you missed the magick. Magick was never about intellectualization. Those who fear the current need guarantees to hold their egos in place. Step into the circle, let go, take the chance and ride the ride.

A saying we had a long time ago in the Army, and it applies to magick beautifully: Its only stupid if it doesn't work.

Absolutely, the proof is in the practice.

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Griffin is known to be a clown. He was involved in the sad GD wars (each faction falsely claiming real lineage, not that such a thing matters much). As I recall he also got conned by some Italians into believing he was being given the real secrets of the Illuminati, when it was just material freely available in that language...and there's no such thing as a real rosicrucian, it was all fiction in the first place.

History and legend often get tangled, and the colorful stories around groups like the Golden Dawn or the Rosicrucians can be more entertaining than factual. Ultimately, what matters is the practice itself — the personal work and results are what give these systems life, not claims of lineage.