Question about rituals and sexuality.

[cabral]

Hi everyone. I am new here and new to occultism and I would like to discuss a personal case involving occult practices and sexuality.
I am from Brazil, and for context, Brazil has what are commonly called Afro-Brazilian religions. These are spiritual traditions that developed from African religions brought by enslaved Africans, mixed over time with Indigenous practices and some catholic influence. In Brazil, these religions are heavily stigmatized and often labeled as devil worship by christians, even though most traditions focus on balance, healing, and protection. That said, there are variations, such as Quimbanda, that openly work with morally neutral or harmful intentions, including magic aimed at causing damage or seeking revenge, which contributes to their controversial reputation.
Now, to the situation I want to discuss.
I have a cousin whom I used to be close to. Throughout his youth and early adulthood, he was a womenizer, a ladies man, with no attraction to men. He was also extremely ambitious and greedy, and decided to join a spiritual group to help him gain power and money. He joined an Afro-Brazilian religious group, which I believe was Quimbanda, although I'm not completely sure.
There, he quickly rose to a position called Cavalo (literally "horse), meaning a person who incorporates spiritual entities during rituals, and became somewhat important in the group. Eventually, he began feeling uncomfortable with the practices and decided to leave.
The leaders told him he was not allowed to leave and threatened him, saying that "if you live, we will curse you and you will never lie with a woman again, you will become a woman yourself" (their words, not mine). He ignored them and left anyway.
Soon after leaving, he realized he no longer felt attraction toward women. He repeatedly tried to be with women but experienced strong repulsion and sexual dysfunction. At the same time, he began feeling attraction toward men, something he had never experienced before.
This caused severe psychological distress, he became deeply self-hating, attempted to take his own life, but years later ended up marrying a man. They have been together for over 20 years. Even so, he has said that his greatest wish is to feel attraction toward women again.
I’m sharing this story becaus I never heard anything similar before and after, and since I'm new to this subject, I’m interested in hearing from others who may have encountered unusual or comparable experiences involving intense spiritual environments and long-lasting personal and/or sexual changes, or who have thoughts on how belief, fear, and ritual can deeply affect someone’s life trajectory.

 

[deci belle]

West African traditions are very powerful, at least in the coastal areas of Brasil. Thank you for that, Cabral.

Your cousin seems to have come to an impasse of sorts, yet he married happily, but is still regretful on that note.

Those Quimbanda elders had an unpleasant disposition, but your cousin has adapted, albeit still harboring a longing for femme.

I wonder if he is relatively dominant or relatively submissive in his current homosexual relationship. Do you know?

 

[cabral]

West African traditions are very powerful, at least in the coastal areas of Brasil. Thank you for that, Cabral.

Your cousin seems to have come to an impasse of sorts, yet he married happily, but is still regretful on that note.

Those Quimbanda elders had an unpleasant disposition, but your cousin has adapted, albeit still harboring a longing for femme.

I wonder if he is relatively dominant or relatively submissive in his current homosexual relationship. Do you know?

Thank you for your reply, Deci Belle. He is dominant.

 

[deci belle]

Oh~ well then there is hope!! I bet he regains his desire for women in the long run.

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Cabral wrote:

I'm new to this subject, I’m interested in hearing from others who may have encountered unusual or comparable experiences involving intense spiritual environments and long-lasting personal and/or sexual changes, or who have thoughts on how belief, fear, and ritual can deeply affect someone’s life trajectory.

I suppose ritual (or more importantly a program of spiritual self-refinement) might provide a degree of (re)orientation, in a reformative sense.

It does not seem that your cousin had a healthy relationship with women anyway, perhaps this interim is serving as a time-out for him to re-evaluate exactly what he really hopes to accomplish with women that he might be missing from men (other than producing children biologically).

I hope to hear more of your personal path in the occult relative to your Brasilian upbringing.

I used to play gorgeous arrangements for classical guitar of all the Bossa Nova classics and sing in Portuguese for 20 years before I finally burnt out and became a student of rock and roll. I had a pen-pal whose mother found my business card on the street in Rio. No doubt, one of my fashion-photographer pals had gotten pick-pocketed… hahhahahaa!!

 

[cabral]

Oh~ well then there is hope!! I bet he regains his desire for women in the long run.

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Cabral wrote:


I suppose ritual (or more importantly a program of spiritual self-refinement) might provide a degree of (re)orientation, in a reformative sense.

It does not seem that your cousin had a healthy relationship with women anyway, perhaps this interim is serving as a time-out for him to re-evaluate exactly what he really hopes to accomplish with women that he might be missing from men (other than producing children biologically).

I hope to hear more of your personal path in the occult relative to your Brasilian upbringing.

I used to play gorgeous arrangements for classical guitar of all the Bossa Nova classics and sing in Portuguese for 20 years before I finally burnt out and became a student of rock and roll. I had a pen-pal whose mother found my business card on the street in Rio. No doubt, one of my fashion-photographer pals had gotten pick-pocketed… hahhahahaa!!

Oh, wow, hearing your experience with Brazil and portuguese genuinely made me smile, that's so cool. And Rio absolutely has a way of redistributing business cards and wallets alike hahahaha. Thank you for your thoughtful reply.