The Great Societal Crack-up Is Coming

[Asteriskos]

Be sure to watch the debacle next year and whine like this year, something to look forward to.

 

[Kepler]

Be sure to watch the debacle next year and whine like this year, something to look forward to.

Nobody is whining. That's just you stupidly shooting your mouth off with an unfounded accusation to avoid the subject.

 

[Yazata]

Keep it friendly please

 

[Asteriskos]

Nobody is whining. That's just you stupidly shooting your mouth off with an unfounded accusation to avoid the subject.

You're the one that appears upset about the WEF and Davos not me. Trump is doing what he sees as the best course of action with what there is to work with. The rest of NATO needs to pick up their share of responsibility. I'm interested in watching all the knickers get tied into knots. If you don't like the US and what course of action it's taking why don't you appeal to your leadership and explain how you feel to them, maybe they can
do something to lighten your load?

 

[Kepler]

You're the one that appears upset about the WEF and Davos not me. Trump is doing what he sees as the best course of action with what there is to work with. The rest of NATO needs to pick up their share of responsibility. I'm interested in watching all the knickers get tied into knots. If you don't like the US and what course of action it's taking why don't you appeal to your leadership and explain how you feel to them, maybe they can
do something to lighten your load?

Of course the signs of destruction to collaboration are upsetting to those that value such things, but you're missing point being made about it in regard to the topic of the thread. That is the crack-up. You're skipping how that corruption is signs of the crack-up. And how it affects perceptions about risk and the objective signs of a death spiral of America from admin policy.

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Where do you get informed from with geopolitics? Matt Walsh?

 

[Asteriskos]

Nobody is whining. That's just you stupidly shooting your mouth off with an unfounded accusation to avoid the subject.

You're the one who's offended by what you perceive. Can't help you with that. Deal with what's going on or don't, What was that unfounded accusation again? Let me see if I need or want to address that before I uncheck "watch this post"?

 

[Kepler]

You're the one who's offended by what you perceive. Can't help you with that. Deal with what's going on or don't, What was that unfounded accusation again? Let me see if I need or want to address that before I uncheck "watch this post"?

Please stick to the topic

Of course the signs of destruction to collaboration are upsetting to those that value such things, but you're missing point being made about it in regard to the topic of the thread. That is the crack-up. You're skipping how that corruption is signs of the crack-up. And how it affects perceptions about risk and the objective signs of a death spiral of America from admin policy.

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Where do you get informed from with geopolitics? Matt Walsh?

 

[Asteriskos]

Where do you get informed from with geopolitics? Matt Walsh?

Nope, never paid much attention to him. I was going to uncheck "watch this thread" but I don't think so. It will be interesting to watch.
Right wing? Not nearly as much as some people I know. The US was crippled by the "Left" and Biden and that's changing, Some folks don't like change. That's unfortunate.

 

[Ohana]

The US needs to slow down with its changes. The US has grown at a rate that is unstable to maintain. So many of the states are deserted because of how big it got.

The US has been changing at a very very fast rate. It needs to slow down. The country needs to take a deep breath and make infrastructural changes at a rate that is slow.

Too much change too fast can lead to instability. Both parties have not done the best for the US. Leftists I know are getting tired of left leaning politicians and Right leaning politicians are making changes at a rate that is to unstable and don't seem to have a net benefit. I think changes need to be made but not at this rate. Everyone I know here is not happy because of how fast the changes are. Its leading to public instability.

I know I'm doing a lot right now because with the way things are going. I don't think I have a lot of time. I'm being scapegoated and blamed for a lot due to the amount of tension this is causing for everyone.

The US needs to breath for a second and change at a rate that is sustainable. This amount of change doesn't seem sustainable. Other countries will be there tomorrow. The US needs to focus on itself for a second and breathe.

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The US needs to slow down with its changes. The US has grown at a rate that is unstable to maintain. So many of the states are deserted because of how big it got.

The US has been changing at a very very fast rate. It needs to slow down. The country needs to take a deep breath and make infrastructural changes at a rate that is slow.

Too much change too fast can lead to instability. Both parties have not done the best for the US. Leftists I know are getting tired of left leaning politicians and Right leaning politicians are making changes at a rate that is to unstable and don't seem to have a net benefit. I think changes need to be made but not at this rate. Everyone I know here is not happy because of how fast the changes are. Its leading to public instability.

I know I'm doing a lot right now because with the way things are going. I don't think I have a lot of time. I'm being scapegoated and blamed for a lot due to the amount of tension this is causing for everyone.

The US needs to breath for a second and change at a rate that is sustainable. This amount of change doesn't seem sustainable. Other countries will be there tomorrow. The US needs to focus on itself for a second and breathe.

Tldr: I think changes should be made but a more sustainable rate and ones that have a net benefit and not attacking people. People have rights thats the entire foundation its built on.

 

[Kepler]

Nope, never paid much attention to him. I was going to uncheck "watch this thread" but I don't think so. It will be interesting to watch.
Right wing? Not nearly as much as some people I know. The US was crippled by the "Left" and Biden and that's changing, Some folks don't like change. That's unfortunate.

Not that this should be a guessing game, but my second guess was grok, third rogan. Unsubstantiated vague accusations of "crippled by the "Left"" gives the impression. Although, rogan would be more on about communists.

To use that to segue back to topic
The latest ICE shooting is just the type of escalation toward Tiananmen that the world sees which my earlier post was referring to as a sign of the crack up.
Tiananmen event shocked the world and is probably in most everyone's memory.
Kent State is definitely remembered.

How things shake out with Minnesota National Guard, the citizens of the state of Minnesota, and the antagonists remains to be seen.
Again escalation, more instability, more risk adding to Sell America and confirming the Death of the Mistress of the World.

A crack up doesn't mean the end of everything. It's freedom. Hail, Calicascadia!

 

[Yazata]

The latest ICE shooting

Was that the one where a guy brought a gun, resisted the officers, reached for his gun and then got shot?

 

[Ohana]

Not that this should be a guessing game, but my second guess was grok, third rogan. Unsubstantiated vague accusations of "crippled by the "Left"" gives the impression. Although, rogan would be more on about communists.

To use that to segue back to topic
The latest ICE shooting is just the type of escalation toward Tiananmen that the world sees which my earlier post was referring to as a sign of the crack up.
Tiananmen event shocked the world and is probably in most everyone's memory.
Kent State is definitely remembered.


How things shake out with Minnesota National Guard, the citizens of the state of Minnesota, and the antagonists remains to be seen.
Again escalation, more instability, more risk adding to Sell America and confirming the Death of the Mistress of the World.

A crack up doesn't mean the end of everything. It's freedom. Hail, Calicascadia!

Okay no. Stop. Stop going for the US person. They are going through a lot right now. The political tension this has caused is a lot I know it is for me atleast.

And I know the US has flaws and I know the US originally didn't have rights for everyone thats basic history. But the idea that it broguht despite not acting out perfectly everyone has certain inalienable rights that changed so much.

I like the ideas the US brought but it did have flaws. The other idea that it brought of revision when things are not working right to that that was also something okay.

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Was that the one where a guy brought a gun, resisted the officers, reached for his gun and then got

I think it was a woman actually and yes the US has a major issue with hurting its people. The authorities need to desescalate. They assume escalating will lead to desescalting but that leads to further escalation. They need to stop.

 

[Beyond Everything]

Trump is doing what he sees as the best course of action with what there is to work with.

No, he does what lines his own pockets. lol

As just one example- the United Arab Emirates invested 2 billion in World Liberty Financial (crypto firm founded by Trump), and a couple weeks later Trump allowed the UAE access to the most advanced AI chips.

Was that the one where a guy brought a gun, resisted the officers, reached for his gun and then got shot?

No, his gun remained holstered until one of the ice goons removed it. There's slow-mo video as well as screenshots demonstrating this conclusively. That's why the DHS is not even having the FBI investigate the shooting (as well as denying access to local LEO), but going against all precedence and 'investigating' it solely themselves.

 

[Ohana]

Okay no. Stop. Stop going for the US person. They are going through a lot right now. The political tension this has caused is a lot I know it is for me atleast.

And I know the US has flaws and I know the US originally didn't have rights for everyone thats basic history. But the idea that it broguht despite not acting out perfectly everyone has certain inalienable rights that changed so much.

I like the ideas the US brought but it did have flaws. The other idea that it brought of revision when things are not working right to that that was also something okay.

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I think it was a woman actually and yes the US has a major issue with hurting its people. The authorities need to desescalate. They assume escalating will lead to desescalting but that leads to further escalation. They need to stop.

Just stop escalating and stop hiding everything. I think. This is such an unstable time.

 

[Kepler]

Was that the one where a guy brought a gun, resisted the officers, reached for his gun and then got shot?

While I don't agree with US carry laws either, having one with a permit is within their rights in the state.
Police said he was a legal owner, unsure if that means permitted there.

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The video doesn't show him reaching for it, let alone brandishing.

 

[frater_pan]

Was that the one where a guy brought a gun, resisted the officers, reached for his gun and then got shot?

No that was the one where a guy, a 37 yr old ICU nurse working for the VA, brought a weapon in his back pocket (in a concealed carry state), videoed officers, officers advanced on him and a woman, got pepper sprayed by officers along with a woman who had been pushed down by federal officers in the snow, the man attempted to help the woman up, the man was swarmed by 5-6 officers, he DID NOT reach for the weapon in his back pocket, the man was in fact disarmed by a federal officer who was supposedly an FBI agent, whereupon one of the other federal officers executed him by shooting him to death as he was turtled up on the ground where could not have posed any threat to anyone under any conditions.

 

[Asteriskos]

Unsubstantiated vague accusations of "crippled by the "Left""

"Illegal Aliens", not "Immigrants" running rampant are not unsubstantiated, no matter where thy are. Minnesota is pretty close to Canada, maybe they would be more "at home" there?. Crippled by the Left is putting it "Mildly". What ever vantage point you're coming from seems myopic.
I remember the events you mention. Each one was unique, in it's time and place. I was as shocked as most others were. There is an "Illegal Alien" problem in the US caused solely by the "Left" and if you choose to doubt that I see it as "Myopic! That's what's happening in Minnesota.

 

[Ohana]

No, he does what lines his own pockets. lol

As just one example- the United Arab Emirates invested 2 billion in World Liberty Financial (crypto firm founded by Trump), and a couple weeks later Trump allowed the UAE access to the most advanced AI chips.


No, his gun remained holstered until one of the ice goons removed it. There's slow-mo video as well as screenshots demonstrating this conclusively. That's why the DHS is not even having the FBI investigate the shooting (as well as denying access to local LEO), but going against all precedence and 'investigating' it solely themselves.

Yeah I guess I was thinking of something else but that agency did hurt a woman in Minesota in one instance. And the citizens are the angry, hurt, and suffering. Most of them did not go for this. Most of them might not have been able vote because of their job interfering with it.

And the ones that did were lied to. You can't go back in time. You can only move forward. But maybe this is consequences but these consequences aren't really teaching anyone anything. Its causing more issues.

 

[Beyond Everything]

Yeah I guess I was thinking of something else but that agency did hurt a woman in Minesota in one instance. And the citizens are the angry, hurt, and suffering. Most of them did not go for this. Most of them might not have been able vote because of their job interfering with it.

And the ones that did were lied to. You can't go back in time. You can only move forward. But maybe this is consequences but these consequences aren't really teaching anyone anything. Its causing more behavioral issues I think based off what I know that would make sense.

Thinking this is about illegal immigration is for the rubes. If it was, ICE would be swarming Texas which has a hell of a lot more than Minn does. This is about police state normalization.

 

[Ohana]

"Illegal Aliens", not "Immigrants" running rampant are not unsubstantiated, no matter where thy are. Minnesota is pretty close to Canada, maybe they would be more "at home" there?. Crippled by the Left is putting it "Mildly". What ever vantage point you're coming from seems myopic.
I remember the events you mention. Each one was unique, in it's time and place. I was as shocked as most others were. There is an "Illegal Alien" problem in the US caused solely by the "Left" and if you choose to doubt that I see it as "Myopic! That's what's happening in Minnesota.

Even if there was do people have to be hurt for this. I really don't think there was a problem in the first place. I agree with what beyond everything said this is about increased monitoring.

Thinking this is about illegal immigration is for the rubes. If it was, ICE would be swarming Texas which has a hell of a lot more than Minn does. This is about police state normalization.

I didn't say anything about that. Did you reply to the wrong person?

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Even if there was do people have to be hurt for this. I really don't think there was a problem in the first place. I agree with what beyond everything said this is about increased monitoring.

I didn't say anything about that. Did you reply to the wrong person?

Okay I think I know what happened now. I'm speaking so generally because this monitoring has scared me too. Even though I was born in the US and haven't done anything.

But yeah we have deserted states. We have ample room for new people. If too many people are coming here. The US has a lot of land and resources that theres plenty to share. I don't get it.

And if they are hurting people then also shouldn't be as much of a problem as their making it out to be. Think about it. They are still immigrants and still have to deal with a lot going against them. I'd be more worried about people here hurting people because they would have more of an advantage since their from here.

They know people. They have probably more connections from being here for longer.

And they have. Immature people that are from here I have found are doing damage and its hard to hold them accountable because of the connections they hold. People are trying.

My old friends that are from here were abusing and demonizing me. I was scared. I'm still scared. I tried to hold them accountable but it just fell through.