hypothesis for why humanity is facing difficulties involving resources/mental and physical health

[Ohana]

There have been a lot so far but yeah. I've given it thought and I'm going to complain about a problem I see with humanity. This is generalized but I think I might know part of the reason why a lot of people might be facing mental health issues and/or struggling.


1. System not great just in general living getting more costly and the usuaI complaints about life but why? Its because I don't think we've been expanding enough to space. (It might also be because of wealth being centralized to create rich famiIies again instead of the meritocracy most people want and in my opinions societies should strive for) resources are dwindling and becoming an issue on other hunks of rock out there there's ice and other resources that can be used instead of depleting the planet we need to Iive on.


2. Another short thing is not enough funding in programs that can heIp peopIe overaII like space but other including enviromentaI and medicaI.


3. Globalization. I don't think Globalization is bad in of itself but when a society can get globalized suddenly its actually causes more isolation. Now most peopIe are becoming way more in-sync cuIturaIIy which means no new variety of peopIe and then tied to the no new expansion to space mean human mind might feel more isolated since I think humans are originally nomadic. Now that most peopIe are part of the same tribe no new groups of people for our nomadic minds to meet.


When peopIe are mostly nomadic oriented it means our brains might have got stimulated from seeing new cultures and new groups of peopIe. Now that peopIe are becoming more globalized it means people are getting more antsy and that takes a toll on our mentaI health. There's a saying variety is the spice of life now there's less variety now peopIe are suddenly feeling more isolated? Sure some of it can be blamed on less sIeep and poorly designed places with less meet up spots/socialization spots but I don't think its fully that. A part may be blamed in technology but I think the reason is that tech like phones made us a lot more globalized.


If I'm right then the loneliness epidemic should increase even after technology like phones have long been established which they partially have but maybe give it another 2-3 decades then see. Its our nomadic minds peopIe might need new stimuli so expansion to space/ocean since ocean still has barely been explored could help with these problems. It would also help the environment with space since new resources means less toll on earth and more resources for everyone.


On the occuIt side of things this might be affecting it too since everything has become more globalized egregores, entities/whatever someone personally subscribes too maybe ghosts could be affected too. I don't fully know how yet but the globalization of it all may have made less room for personal interpretations of these entities maybe. Some may not like being so standardized.

So I have a proposed solution of expanding the places where humans to space. Maybe not even to live at first maybe to just get more resources for everyone.

Post automatically merged: Jul 18, 2026

This relies on humanity being primarily a nomadic species though which I'm pretty sure what are origins are but if I'm wrong let me know!

Post automatically merged: Jul 18, 2026

I made this one since nowadays I see a lot of peopIe struggling with both physical and mentaI health especially with mental toil. I can't count the number of peopIe I've seen admitting to some form of anxiety or depression. I've heard there's a literal loneliness epidemic going around and I've heard from some studies an increase in mental health needs.

This might be partially why its increasing despite people being more connected to each other ever before through technology.

 

[speculumphilosophi]

Interesting thoughts, you express.
On globalisation I see a trend that runs contrary to natural selection and evolution. People are becoming physically and psychologically weaker.
Ages ago, Schwarzenegger hinted at the contrast between technology and the way humans evolved to fight off real threats, by cunning, resourcefulness and aggression. That essential challenge has started to erode, creating the far weaker generation, predicted by H.G. Wells in The Time Machine.
Where I live, even physically, the population differs vastly from my 1960s to 1970s generation. Most are vastly overweight due to fast food and a sedate lifestyle. Others are undernourished due to the end of a social welfare system.
One big factor too is the drive by western governments to disregard the reality of racial identity. They assume somehow there is no difference whatsoever in that regard, and multiple communities of different cultures and faiths will all supposedly blend into harmonious, economic zones (where commerce is all that matters). To me, that sounds even more utopian and impractical than Lenin's communist world order.
That is, aggression and masculinity remains an evolutionary building brick, where we all struggle for survival. Competition is an evolutionary reality.
Lastly, the victim culture, now so popular. This is a kind of hyper feministic empathy that somehow idealises victim status. Years ago, a girl tried to steal my bike when she saw me unlocking the chain outside a public library. She rushed forwards, grabbed the bike and screamed, "Help, he's stolen my bike!" Being respectful of the opposite sex, I couldn't literally fight her but I certainly held onto the bike. A crowd soon appeared and it seemed as if this tactic by the girl would pay off and make me the villain. Fortunately for me, a security guard testified it was actually my bike. So, the last point here is a weak society becomes a victim seeking society where we obtain our objectives by gaining empathy, I er rational judgement.
These days, sounding like Chuck Norris doesn't win friends but, in my day, we all wanted to be tough like Chuck.

 

[Wintruz]

These days, sounding like Chuck Norris doesn't win friends but, in my day, we all wanted to be tough like Chuck.

@SkullTraill

If I leave the forum again I want it to be known that this sentence was why.

 

[beardedeldridge]

…sounding like Chuck Norris doesn't win any friends…

It’s alright, Chuck Norris doesn’t have friends, just people he hasn’t killed yet.

Ba dum tss

I’ll show myself out of this thread.

 

[solxyz]

Ok, here's the big picture as far as what is going on with society, culture, and humanity in these times: The industrial revolution was a thoroughly Faustian bargain, and now the piper has come to collect. We've built a society based on machines, standardized and interchangeable parts, disruption of complex systems, alienated individuals, hyper-rationality, and projections of endless expansion and growth (e.g. going to space). This way of life enabled us to turn energy-dense fossil fuels into incredible but unsustainable prosperity. Now, as fossil fuels become increasingly expensive to access (and so-called renewables face significant natural resource limitations right out of the gate), that growth has become difficult to maintain, triggering a power-grab as people are now competing over a zero-sum or diminishing pie. Meanwhile we have completely degraded our environment's life-sustaining capacity as well as our own psycho-spiritual well-being. In short, we face a wasteland of our own making, and now without the fun money that made the whole project seem initially appealing.

There are no solutions and it is only going to get worse.

 

[speculumphilosophi]

…sounding like Chuck Norris doesn't win any friends…

It’s alright, Chuck Norris doesn’t have friends, just people he hasn’t killed yet.

Ba dum tss

I’ll show myself out of this thread.

Ok, here's the big picture as far as what is going on with society, culture, and humanity in these times: The industrial revolution was a thoroughly Faustian bargain, and now the piper has come to collect. We've built a society based on machines, standardized and interchangeable parts, disruption of complex systems, alienated individuals, hyper-rationality, and projections of endless expansion and growth (e.g. going to space). This way of life enabled us to turn energy-dense fossil fuels into incredible but unsustainable prosperity. Now, as fossil fuels become increasingly expensive to access (and so-called renewables face significant natural resource limitations right out of the gate), that growth has become difficult to maintain, triggering a power-grab as people are now competing over a zero-sum or diminishing pie. Meanwhile we have completely degraded our environment's life-sustaining capacity as well as our own psycho-spiritual well-being. In short, we face a wasteland of our own making, and now without the fun money that made the whole project seem initially appealing.

There are no solutions and it is only going to get worse.

One thing I can tell you based on long experience. Pure technology can evolve without human beings having too crucial a role. Either something works or it doesn't. A diode can only conduct when placed the right way in a circuit. An engine can only run if it's timed and the air pressure is correct. Yet, in the areas of knowledge that aren't mechanically, technically constrained, people have an uncanny knack for ruling out past experiences, and endlessly repeating the same mistakes. Areas such as history, anthropology, political science, even sometimes medicine. History especially. From what I found, authorities today interpret historical events in ways that totally ignore descriptions, and analysis of the actual events. That's because a well expressed (but wrong) opinion doesn't show any immediate symptom of catastrophic failure, as in the case of wiring a solar panel the wrong way round. So, as I see it, technology has to advance but we can lag way behind in those areas that require research, lack of bias, care in turning to past experience. Learning from mistakes made by others. I would go so far as to say you can't trust mainstream education or the various cult leaders that claim expertise in various ways. Then again, I guess I found the same path as Juddu Krishnamurti who stated you have to be a light to yourself.
It's really very worrying to see how easily mass populations fail to see how knowledge is being offered like a fashion line, that changes every so often. Part of the trick is not to follow a multitude but to actively seek an unbiased, considered conclusion.

 

[Ohana]

It's really very worrying to see how easily mass populations fail to see how knowledge is being offered like a fashion line, that changes every so often.

I like fashion lines tho : (

 

[speculumphilosophi]

I like fashion lines tho : (

One very good example is the history of Christianity. The earliest Christians had gnostic factions and there was no established orthodoxy.

 

[Morell]

There have been a lot so far but yeah. I've given it thought and I'm going to complain about a problem I see with humanity. This is generalized but I think I might know part of the reason why a lot of people might be facing mental health issues and/or struggling.


1. System not great just in general living getting more costly and the usuaI complaints about life but why? Its because I don't think we've been expanding enough to space. (It might also be because of wealth being centralized to create rich famiIies again instead of the meritocracy most people want and in my opinions societies should strive for) resources are dwindling and becoming an issue on other hunks of rock out there there's ice and other resources that can be used instead of depleting the planet we need to Iive on.


2. Another short thing is not enough funding in programs that can heIp peopIe overaII like space but other including enviromentaI and medicaI.


3. Globalization. I don't think Globalization is bad in of itself but when a society can get globalized suddenly its actually causes more isolation. Now most peopIe are becoming way more in-sync cuIturaIIy which means no new variety of peopIe and then tied to the no new expansion to space mean human mind might feel more isolated since I think humans are originally nomadic. Now that most peopIe are part of the same tribe no new groups of people for our nomadic minds to meet.


When peopIe are mostly nomadic oriented it means our brains might have got stimulated from seeing new cultures and new groups of peopIe. Now that peopIe are becoming more globalized it means people are getting more antsy and that takes a toll on our mentaI health. There's a saying variety is the spice of life now there's less variety now peopIe are suddenly feeling more isolated? Sure some of it can be blamed on less sIeep and poorly designed places with less meet up spots/socialization spots but I don't think its fully that. A part may be blamed in technology but I think the reason is that tech like phones made us a lot more globalized.


If I'm right then the loneliness epidemic should increase even after technology like phones have long been established which they partially have but maybe give it another 2-3 decades then see. Its our nomadic minds peopIe might need new stimuli so expansion to space/ocean since ocean still has barely been explored could help with these problems. It would also help the environment with space since new resources means less toll on earth and more resources for everyone.


On the occuIt side of things this might be affecting it too since everything has become more globalized egregores, entities/whatever someone personally subscribes too maybe ghosts could be affected too. I don't fully know how yet but the globalization of it all may have made less room for personal interpretations of these entities maybe. Some may not like being so standardized.

So I have a proposed solution of expanding the places where humans to space. Maybe not even to live at first maybe to just get more resources for everyone.

Post automatically merged: Jul 18, 2026

This relies on humanity being primarily a nomadic species though which I'm pretty sure what are origins are but if I'm wrong let me know!

Post automatically merged: Jul 18, 2026

I made this one since nowadays I see a lot of peopIe struggling with both physical and mentaI health especially with mental toil. I can't count the number of peopIe I've seen admitting to some form of anxiety or depression. I've heard there's a literal loneliness epidemic going around and I've heard from some studies an increase in mental health needs.

This might be partially why its increasing despite people being more connected to each other ever before through technology.

Nice theory.

I do not think that humans are nomadic by nature. At least not all the people.

Social networks should no longer be called social networks, honestly. Though they still serve that purpose, it is taking backseat and primal is representation and competition. War for likes and views, where you are literally against the world... and motivated by possibility of an income. So the person becomes really isolated and alone while ironically connected with everyone, but no longer as an individuality, but as a wheel in money making machine. And not developing your own individuality, not seeking what makes you happy, is sure way to get depression. Especially if instead you waste your time in something that is not giving you anything really in return except addiction. You are a product on the social networks... and nowadays even then you have to see ads.

Of course then there is the system issue you point out. We do need to get a job... good luck with that, right? People then want to get their own living, which is part of having your own life. Good luck with that... and to start a family... how and where? In other words people grow up today and take a look, wage their opinions and discover that they do the math that reveals that they won't probably do much of what they hope for. And then they live with their dreams shattered.

 

[speculumphilosophi]

Nice theory.

I do not think that humans are nomadic by nature. At least not all the people.

Social networks should no longer be called social networks, honestly. Though they still serve that purpose, it is taking backseat and primal is representation and competition. War for likes and views, where you are literally against the world... and motivated by possibility of an income. So the person becomes really isolated and alone while ironically connected with everyone, but no longer as an individuality, but as a wheel in money making machine. And not developing your own individuality, not seeking what makes you happy, is sure way to get depression. Especially if instead you waste your time in something that is not giving you anything really in return except addiction. You are a product on the social networks... and nowadays even then you have to see ads.

Of course then there is the system issue you point out. We do need to get a job... good luck with that, right? People then want to get their own living, which is part of having your own life. Good luck with that... and to start a family... how and where? In other words people grow up today and take a look, wage their opinions and discover that they do the math that reveals that they won't probably do much of what they hope for. And then they live with their dreams shattered.

I couldn't agree more. The Neoplatonists teach the exact opposite to the social media giants. Emotions, desires, likes, should never subjugate the intellect. An opinion should be formed based as much as possible on facts. Plato divided the mind into (1) intellect, reason, (2) emotions and (3) desire. If desire becomes dominant, it controls our reasoning. We believe what we want to believe, what makes us popular and included. When rationality is dominant, it subjugates emotions so we then hopefully make informed choices.
It's fair to say that children initially follow their likes and emotions because, at ten years or 12, intellectual development is still ongoing. However, I.T. giants tend to encourage people to prioritise their friends ratings and so forth. Tell people what they want to hear, so to speak.
Even so, the internet wisely used can still be very educational. It helps to use it in the right way. I found A.I. very helpful in my psychology research.

 

[Ohana]

One very good example is the history of Christianity. The earliest Christians had gnostic factions and there was no established orthodoxy.

Oh yeah that makes sense. I was mostly saying that as a joke but this point that hasn't been brought up a Iot before make sense.

There are no solutions and it is only going to get worse.

I don't disagree with what was said previously because I also don't like the industrial revoIution and would probably prefer to go back like way back like to caves since I like rocks. Nothing beats a stabIe warm rock to lie on and I mean nothing but time continue to march forward.

I disagree that their are no soIutions or that we shouId just give up. I didn't hear no beII. My solution proposed might not be aII it cracks up to be without addressing the underlying factors causing these problems but not trying to find any solution to this I think does a disservice to every person and living being here.

Even if you are right and there reaIIy is no solution to not even try wouId be putting muItipIe species on the road to extinction which just for them I think peopIe shouId atIeast try to do better.

Nice theory.

I do not think that humans are nomadic by nature. At least not all the people.

Social networks should no longer be called social networks, honestly. Though they still serve that purpose, it is taking backseat and primal is representation and competition. War for likes and views, where you are literally against the world...

Yeah I can see some of the flaws in this hypothesis. I may have just been projecting my own feeIing of unrest to every other person but I do think peopIe just accepting defeat and not trying to interact with the worId can put peopIe into a state of depression. Even in the most brutaI demoralizing moments of my Iife going out and trying to do better or take an active approach in my Iife reaIIy heIped me out.

 

[Morell]

Yeah I can see some of the flaws in this hypothesis. I may have just been projecting my own feeIing of unrest to every other person but I do think peopIe just accepting defeat and not trying to interact with the worId can put peopIe into a state of depression. Even in the most brutaI demoralizing moments of my Iife going out and trying to do better or take an active approach in my Iife reaIIy heIped me out.

For people to fight they need to have a hope that they can win the fight. They need hope and dream... a goal, even if it is an ideal never reached. And that is not exactly present when person is molded by social media. The only narrow path they see there online is already not working and they see no other.