What's after death?

[Xenophon]

Of course, Richard Feynman (a gem-you-whine actual physicist) did famously say, " It is important to realize that in physics today, we have no knowledge of what energy is."* That's not to say it's occultly "mysterious" or (gods forbid) a useless concept. It's just saying that to say "X is energy" is not particularly enlightening. At most it might mean "X has observable effects." (Define "observe" as you like.) The etmology of "energy" is roughly, "that which does work." I.e., has effects we perceive. So to say spirits are energy says little more than that spirits manifest themselves. Which we already knew before describing them as energy.

* Jennifer Coopersmith, who agrees with Feynman, elaborates, "The concept of energy is here to stay. It is not sufficient for a concept just to be mathematically defined, measurable,and leading to consistent results—it must also get used. There is no doubt that ‘energy’ meets these requirements. We have shown that the physics and the mathematics move forward together, but it is impossible to tell where the mathematics ends and the physics begins, and vice versa. This is the real message of Feynman’s allegory and the reason why energy is such a slippery concept: the ‘blocks’ are the real thing, energy, and can be measured (in Joules); and they are also nothing more than the mathematical formulae ½ mv 2 , ∫ F . d r , mgh , ½ kT , ½ CV 2 , qV, mc 2 , and so on." (Energy, the Subtle Concept. The discovery of Feynman’s blocks, from Leibniz to Einstein )

 

[WisdomAddict]

I read on various sources about a kind of advanced machinery outside the earth or maybe physical sphere that keeps souls on reincarnation cycles
I read it on ascensionglossary i guess
Anybody has any more info or ideas about this theory?
Archons and stuff

 

[Robert Ramsay]

Of course, Richard Feynman (a gem-you-whine actual physicist) did famously say, " It is important to realize that in physics today, we have no knowledge of what energy is."* That's not to say it's occultly "mysterious" or (gods forbid) a useless concept. It's just saying that to say "X is energy" is not particularly enlightening. At most it might mean "X has observable effects." (Define "observe" as you like.) The etmology of "energy" is roughly, "that which does work." I.e., has effects we perceive. So to say spirits are energy says little more than that spirits manifest themselves. Which we already knew before describing them as energy.

* Jennifer Coopersmith, who agrees with Feynman, elaborates, "The concept of energy is here to stay. It is not sufficient for a concept just to be mathematically defined, measurable,and leading to consistent results—it must also get used. There is no doubt that ‘energy’ meets these requirements. We have shown that the physics and the mathematics move forward together, but it is impossible to tell where the mathematics ends and the physics begins, and vice versa. This is the real message of Feynman’s allegory and the reason why energy is such a slippery concept: the ‘blocks’ are the real thing, energy, and can be measured (in Joules); and they are also nothing more than the mathematical formulae ½ mv 2 , ∫ F . d r , mgh , ½ kT , ½ CV 2 , qV, mc 2 , and so on." (Energy, the Subtle Concept. The discovery of Feynman’s blocks, from Leibniz to Einstein )

Although there is hope; Sir Isaac Newton had no idea what gravity was when he discovered it; it took a few hundred years more before Einstein showed that it was distortion of spacetime caused by mass. Someone might eventually figure energy out beyond energy and mass being interchangable

 

[Xenophon]

Although there is hope; Sir Isaac Newton had no idea what gravity was when he discovered it; it took a few hundred years more before Einstein showed that it was distortion of spacetime caused by mass. Someone might eventually figure energy out beyond energy and mass being interchangable

As a novelty, Nimrod De Rosario has a few essays claiming mass can only be explained in terms of gravity. Allegedly he works this out in Hyperborean Physics, but I've never been able to find even an online manuscript in either English or Spanish.

 

[Robert Ramsay]

Isn't Hyperborea where Conan came from?

 

[Xenophon]

Isn't Hyperborea where Conan came from?

Nah, he was Conan the Cimmerian. (I had to google that: I'm personally Robert Howard intolerant. His writing makes me break out in annoyances.)

 

[DiLoco_DelEted]

What do you believe happens after death?

Rebirth on Earth as a new human?​

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Rebirth on Earth as a different species?​

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Rebirth on a different plane/dimension?​

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Continuing on in a different plane/dimension? Like heaven or hell...​

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Continuing on in a parallel universe where you never died... on and on forever till you're the last person alive?​

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Something, but something inexplicable...?​

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Nothing?​

Let me know your thoughts...

Recently Ive been ordered to undergo a CT scan on my lungs and thorax, due to previous smoking (thirty years). I may also ask about the rotator cuff and upper arm area as there has been incredible pain and could be symptomatic of bone cancer.

Growing up as a Baptist, and having explored a few religions and many churches and a couple brief excursions to the dark side, I have a few opinions.

Reincarnation is not ruled out, even within Christian thought (read Revelation of St John carefully).
Reincarnation as a cat of some sort might be cool. Due to being a carnivore, this is likely.
Heaven or hell is a possibility.

Within Luciferianism or Qlippothic thought (read Karlsson and Ford), stepping into an alternate universe is a possibility, memories optional.

I always enjoyed the Twilight Zone series, so that may also be a possibility to land up in a different time-space field.

No matter which, our best decision is to boldly step into the great unknown.

 

[Xenophon]

Recently Ive been ordered to undergo a CT scan on my lungs and thorax, due to previous smoking (thirty years). I may also ask about the rotator cuff and upper arm area as there has been incredible pain and could be symptomatic of bone cancer.

Growing up as a Baptist, and having explored a few religions and many churches and a couple brief excursions to the dark side, I have a few opinions.

Reincarnation is not ruled out, even within Christian thought (read Revelation of St John carefully).
Reincarnation as a cat of some sort might be cool. Due to being a carnivore, this is likely.
Heaven or hell is a possibility.

Within Luciferianism or Qlippothic thought (read Karlsson and Ford), stepping into an alternate universe is a possibility, memories optional.

I always enjoyed the Twilight Zone series, so that may also be a possibility to land up in a different time-space field.

No matter which, our best decision is to boldly step into the great unknown.

It is logically possible to read some Christian texts as being compatible with reincarnation. Origen seems to have flirted with that. Still, orthodox Christianity has always come down pretty strongly against that. Could they be wrong? Of course. But it's like asking lawyers about the law: if you dissent from the consensus of educated opinion, you have an uphill battle.

 

[AlfrunGrima]

Rebirth as a new human. How it technically works, IDN but I have past-life memories that are backed up by someone elses past-life memories.

 

[magick&psionics]

What do you believe happens after death?

My belief is that where ever your mindset is at, at the time of death is where you go when you die

 

[jkeller293]

What is after death is what is before you were born. That is pretty much the only assumption i can make. There really cannot be a objective answer to this question since none of us have died. Of course we have people that have been clinically dead having conscious perceptions still like with near death experiences and out of body experiences, but do we know for certain that they are truely dead in that state? Of course we do not. Do we know if there really is death besides from our objective viewpoint of someone passing?

We do have people that believe in past lives and have said they experienced them — but do they know for certain they actually are past lives? I would say they do not in my view. We do have concepts of reincarnation but again no one really knows for certain and they put faith in this belief with conviction saying like a mystic "this is the way it is" without a explaination of why to go with that statement.

This will always remain a philosophical question. I would say to have a solid grounding to attempt to answer this question we would have to first refine the definition of consciousness itself first. My current view is that i look at consciousness as 1 unit which include the physical and nonphysical (like the I, the you, our local minds). So under this viewpoint i would say i think that death is merely a illusion — a change of essence of you experiencing yourself from different angles (yourself as in the singular unit of consciousness in the divided state of duality). This is a subjective viewpoint of mine drawn from my view that i see that our local conscious mind in this dualistic experience is subjucated by objective reality — if you hang out with someone long enough you become like them or if you change your living environment it changes you as well with it. So that is the reason i view consciousness as 1 unit since we all are subjucated by the same objective reality. So my conclusion as of right now is there is no death. Does that mean i believe in reincarnation? Not exactly, but it could be that you just experience a different version of the divided singular consciousness after what we call death.

Now SkullTraill, i know this idea would be hard for you to accept because i know people piss you off that troll on here lol, but if the singular consciousness does exist that would be considered at that state being at rest or unconscious since it cannot really percieve anything until it divides itself. The singular state would be the state of perfection and this state we would be the state of imperfection — meaning that this experience in duality can never experience perfection since duality has infinite number of subjective perspectives within its experience.

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If the case is that our subjective local mind is what sets the laws of objective reality — this would mean that it would be impossible to come even close to an idea of what death is like.

So i dont really worry about death but rather what im doing here now in this objective reality. Right now this world is a bit messed up so the main focus should be the question if this is possible to fix. The death question is fun to think about but i feel like its always going to be a never ending question with way too many variables in the way which mainly is our conflicting views on death. Best just to say "I dont know until it happens to me and no one can tell me what is going to happen since they do not know either."

 

[magick&psionics]

My belief is that where ever your mindset is at, at the time of death is where you go when you die

I also believe that mindset can be changed after death

 

[jkeller293]

I also believe that mindset can be changed after death

During life itself trauma or excessive pressure situation can change the mindset of someone. I guess you could call death a form of trauma, especially if you are in a situation were you know you are going to die like being diagnosed with a severe form of cancer.

 

[Accipeveldare]

What do you believe happens after death?

Rebirth on Earth as a new human?​

​

Rebirth on Earth as a different species?​

​

Rebirth on a different plane/dimension?​

​

Continuing on in a different plane/dimension? Like heaven or hell...​

​

Continuing on in a parallel universe where you never died... on and on forever till you're the last person alive?​

​

Something, but something inexplicable...?​

​

Nothing?​

Let me know your thoughts...

I believe that it is whatever you make it for yourself. The whole purpose in my opinion for using the occult is to find some form of afterlife/rebirth for yourself. Whether it be self deification, reincarnation, some new realm, etc. It is all possible to do if you work towards it.

 

[IllusiveOwl]

I believe that it is whatever you make it for yourself. The whole purpose in my opinion for using the occult is to find some form of afterlife/rebirth for yourself. Whether it be self deification, reincarnation, some new realm, etc. It is all possible to do if you work towards it.

That has to be a very comforting belief, it let's you believe you're in control while hurtling into the unknown. Reason tells me reality is much more grave and impersonal.

Most people simply vanish because all that they were has died. If Jim didn't know himself, then when everything that was Jim is buried, he would be a blank slate, completely obliterated.

What awaits after? For most, a new life here. For others? They persist past the glorious agony of bodily death.

 

[UnlikelySith]

I have studied this topic extensively. Many believe and there might be some evidence that some of us have lived multiple lives.

NDA tales are fascinating. I have spoken to 2 people in person, who had these experiences.

I have a very fundamental opinion of it.

 

[frater_pan]

As a child I had past life memories, really about six of them, and they were profound while also confusing for me. I have been exploring them my whole life to make sense of the totality of what these experiences mean for me. But for me the question of reincarnation is settled.

However I have been using divination, most tarot but also I Ching and the pendulum, to analyze details. I also do this for other people's and religions claims of after death states (so for example, the view of some Luciferians and Satanists that their afterlife can be a realm of endless partying). As contradictory as it seems, at least for individuals, it seems that all the claims of positive afterlife experiences have some validity and the claims of negative afterlife experiences also have some validity (it seems there can be actual experienced hellish hell states for example).