LBRP and working with Lucifer.

[Wildchildx11]

I'm doing the LBRP 2x a day and I want to throw in an invocation of Lucifer daily and get my relationship back to where it was, because a lot of his teachings involve self-love and putting your own needs first from my previous experience with working with him (I stopped working with him after my delusions where I saw hell which I've mentioned in a previous post, just due to my own fears), he was my friend and I feel like I let him down by abandoning him or not trusting him when I had illusions and a lot of doubt in him entirely based on religious dogma.

If I do the LBRP, which is working, can I set the intention to keep Lucifer's energy if it's having an effect or do they conflict? I would prefer to keep the LBRP in my routine or switch back and forth but I think Lucifer is able to help a lot with shadow work.

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I would typically just do the LBRP and set my mental belief and intention to not get rid of energy which is benefiting me, but I just want to double check and see if I can actually do that.

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Also, why I kind of stopped working with Lucifer is because approximately 3 years ago, I started working with him because he contacted me and told me to get in touch with him, I was stuck in a domestic abuse situation, he was helping me originally with self-love but at the time I was working with him, I was begging everyone for help and I had illusions that I was going to end up in hell, and he does kind of like to play up the whole "devil" thing being a bit of a trickster because he often tests you to put yourself first and tell him no.

I'm going to be honest with Lucifer the next time I work with him. He appreciates honestly, when I needed help in life, my pleas weren't being answered, on top of that I had anxiety and illusions which most likely came from my own fears of the concept of Hell, which I prefer to dismiss on my path. Eventually, I quit working with him because it wasn't bearing fruit. It's why I'm putting the LBRP first, but at time I did view him as akin to a best friend.

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I think I had a codependent relationship with Lucifer, which I'm sure Carl Jung could write a whole essay on, but it wasn't really working in the past, and I can take responsibility for that, I wasn't ready or I misunderstood another spiritual test meant to put myself first and build my self esteem, which included dealing with my fears that I was going to end up in hell.

If I did, this codependency is exactly why I need to work with him, so I can recognize it and work on it.

 

[HoldAll]

I'd keep the LBRP separate from your Lucifer work (which I'm not qualified to comment as I have no experience with him whatsoever), the main reason being that the LBRP was designed as an all-purpose ritual, not only as a banishing but also as a prelude and concluding rite for other workings where Lucifer doesn't come in, so if you routinely include Lucifer in it you might also inadvertently include him in the LBRPs prior to other rituals where he would be out of place or an unintentional interference. So my advice would be to do the LBRP in its classic form, then a Lucifer invocation or whatever, followed by another LBRP just to return to reality with both your feet firmly planted in the here and now.

 

[Roma]

I started working with him because he contacted me and told me to get in touch with him

How did you know who/what it was? There has been electronic technology for decades that produces voices in the head.

I use multiple tests on every incoming energy/entity before I permit a temporary connection.

Even entities that I have interacted with regularly and trust, send contaminated energy structures on occasion. I suspect they throw those in as tests.

My intelligence is far below some of the entities I meet, so I am very cautious

 

[Wildchildx11]

I'd keep the LBRP separate from your Lucifer work (which I'm not qualified to comment as I have no experience with him whatsoever), the main reason being that the LBRP was designed as an all-purpose ritual, not only as a banishing but also as a prelude and concluding rite for other workings where Lucifer doesn't come in, so if you routinely include Lucifer in it you might also inadvertently include him in the LBRPs prior to other rituals where he would be out of place or an unintentional interference. So my advice would be to do the LBRP in its classic form, then a Lucifer invocation or whatever, followed by another LBRP just to return to reality with both your feet firmly planted in the here and now.

I decided to work with Ianna/Ishtar which probably wouldn't conflict, my main issue with Lucifer was with his association with the devil, there was always that whole question of "what if he actually is betraying me?", which when you are trying to work with self-love and also diving into Christian mysticism where he has a negative association, I didn't need the demonic aspects or associations.

I do trust Lucifer, but he wasn't the right entity, for me to develop trust, he helped me a lot, I feel like he wants me to work with Ishtar/Ianna who has the same associations with the morning star, love, beauty, but I don't get the whole "devil" fears which Lucifer does like to play up being more associated with being a trickster spirit.